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Kerry's no rock star but plays a pleasing tune (Baaarrff!!)
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | 9/16/04 | Susan Lampert

Posted on 09/16/2004 10:38:28 AM PDT by qam1

Bill Clinton was a lucky dog.

In 1992, Clinton came to the Wisconsin Capitol on an October day so gorgeous that 30,000 people filled the south lawn. No one minded that he was very late and we had to hear from every local Democrat down to the secretary of the dog catchers union. (Now that we know Bill better, I wonder what he was up to while we waited.)

I flashed back to that day Wednesday because at the Clinton rally, I had a baby in a backpack. She was with me again Wednesday, a teenager all too happy to skip school to hear Sheryl Crow and, oh yeah, John Kerry.

Kerry just isn't lucky like Clinton. It rained on Kerry's rally, and it was moved from the Capitol to the sterile Alliant Center. But the Madison crowd was there, ready to feed off Kerry's energy the way they rocked to Clinton and Gore.

So how did the rallies, separated by a dozen years, compare?

What I remember from the Clinton rally is a buoyant sense of optimism. Finally someone from the baby boom generation was going to take over and put our ideas into practice. My memory has a soundtrack of Fleetwood Mac and golden leaves fluttering down as Bill and Al waded into the crowd for a handshaking orgy.

I didn't get the same buzz from the Kerry rally, but maybe it's because I've been disappointed before. (Go ahead and laugh. I actually thought that by the time my baby was a teenager, we would have a better health insurance system in this country.)

Kerry gets points for being prompt. He gave the crowd what it wanted, although he seemed to hold back when he could have taken his supporters over the top.

Or maybe I'm just getting old. After the Kerry rally, I chatted with three young moms who were doing a tag- team diaper change on the Alliant Center floor.

Sara Cutler, of Madison, mom of Jonah, 18 months, said Kerry spoke right to Generation X when he decried the huge deficit we're leaving to our children.

"I totally thought about our kids," she said. "My husband and I have huge student loans and credit card debt. Our whole generation lives under the cloud of debt and I know what it's like. To think we're doing this to our country totally frustrates me."

Cutler says she wants Jonah to go to a public school with fewer than 15 students per class, and she feels that with Kerry in the White House, federal money is more likely to go to education.

Her friend, Katie Gletty- Syoen, also from Madison and mom of Ella, 4 months, said she was touched by Kerry's talk about "the mom who had to keep saying 'no' to her kids" because she couldn't afford to give them what they wanted. Coming of age during the affluent '90s, then becoming parents during this decade, makes them relate to stories of having less than before.

Hana Beckel of Stevens Point, mom of Madilin, 10 months, said Kerry's talk about health insurance "hit home with me" because of problems she and her husband have had with their insurance.

Yeah, I thought, I'm a dozen years older, and I still worry about what my insurance will cost next year and whether it will cover my kids' health problems.

And then I went off to find my teenager, who was mad that I didn't get her backstage to meet Sheryl Crow.

That's when it hit me. John Kerry tours with a rock star; Bill Clinton was a rock star. But while he put on a great rally, Clinton didn't deliver what he promised my generation of moms. Maybe the next one will fare better.

Contact Susan Lampert Smith at ssmith@madison.com or 252-6121.


TOPICS: Editorial; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; billclinton; genx; johnkerry; stupidsoccermoms
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1 posted on 09/16/2004 10:38:37 AM PDT by qam1
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2 posted on 09/16/2004 10:40:18 AM PDT by qam1 (McGreevy likes his butts his way, I like mine my way - so NO SMOKING BANS in New Jersey)
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and golden leaves fluttering down as Bill and Al waded into the crowd for a handshaking orgy

Interesting word choice.

3 posted on 09/16/2004 10:42:06 AM PDT by Repairman Jack
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To: qam1
My husband and I have huge student loans and credit card debt. Our whole generation lives under the cloud of debt

OK, and voting for someone who will raise your taxes is going to help how?
Stupid F'ing librals

4 posted on 09/16/2004 10:43:52 AM PDT by Moleman (Come on now, take the bait...)
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To: qam1
That's when it hit me. John Kerry tours with a rock star; Bill Clinton was a rock star. But while he put on a great rally, Clinton didn't deliver what he promised my generation of moms. Maybe the next one will fare better.

Luckily...both of them (along with all the other hippy era, communist, anti-America politicians) will either take a dirt nap or be completely out of politics in the next 5-7 years. There is hope.

5 posted on 09/16/2004 10:44:43 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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----Sara Cutler, of Madison, mom of Jonah, 18 months, said Kerry spoke right to Generation X when he decried the huge deficit we're leaving to our children.----

Well, he certainly speaks to me on that point. He reminds me that he and leftists like him are responsible for leaving it to us.

-Dan
6 posted on 09/16/2004 10:45:10 AM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Strange Things Are Afoot at the Circle K.)
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"I totally thought about our kids," she said. "My husband and I have huge student loans and credit card debt. Our whole generation lives under the cloud of debt and I know what it's like. To think we're doing this to our country totally frustrates me."

Man, I don't even know where to begin. "I can't have any restraint, but everyone else should!" No wonder it's called the "we" generation.

7 posted on 09/16/2004 10:48:22 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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Cutler says she wants Jonah to go to a public school with fewer than 15 students per class, and she feels that with Kerry in the White House, federal money is more likely to go to education.

Her friend, Katie Gletty- Syoen, also from Madison and mom of Ella, 4 months, said she was touched by Kerry's talk about "the mom who had to keep saying 'no' to her kids" because she couldn't afford to give them what they wanted. Coming of age during the affluent '90s, then becoming parents during this decade, makes them relate to stories of having less than before.



So one "mom" is upset that her kid might have to (gasp) deal with less-than-one-on-one assistance from the teacher? Jeez, those poor kids in Japan and China sure have it hard, and they do so poorly academically too! And the second is worse! Worrying she can't give the kids "what they wanted". Wasn't there an article posted here recently about how children have become "wanting machines", driven by TV marketing, and actualized by parents buying them off because they can't (or won't) spend time with them instead. I'm on the fringes of GenX (1971), but if this is an even moderately pervasive attitude, I'm switching generations.


8 posted on 09/16/2004 10:48:43 AM PDT by Little Pig
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My husband and I have huge student loans and credit card debt. Our whole generation lives under the cloud of debt

OK, and voting for someone who will raise your taxes is going to help how? Stupid F'ing librals

You read my mind! I, too, had a toddler in tow during the Clinton circus, and I, too, have a teenager today. Statement to my teenager last night when he asked basic differences between Democrat and Republican - first words out of my mouth were that Dems like raising taxes and Republicans like cutting them. Sounded like a no-brainer to him. LOL!

9 posted on 09/16/2004 10:49:03 AM PDT by momfirst
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And who held a gun to your heads and forced you to run up credit card debt?


10 posted on 09/16/2004 10:50:12 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Kerry was for using superscript before he was against it)
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To: qam1

I'm going to file this one under 'stupid soccer moms' ;-)


11 posted on 09/16/2004 10:50:16 AM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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Cutler says she wants Jonah to go to a public school with fewer than 15 students per class, and she feels that with Kerry in the White House, federal money is more likely to go to education.

Man, these pople are idiots. If that's what you want, take responsibility and get them to a private school or homeschool. Quit your whining, because public school ratios are NEVER going to approach 15 to 1.

12 posted on 09/16/2004 10:51:44 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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Go ahead and laugh. I actually thought that by the time my baby was a teenager, we would have a better health insurance system in this country.

She had 12 years to plan. Rather than be the productive ant, she decided to be the grasshopper in Aesop's tale. I wonder how much she spent on cable television, cellphones, and cigarettes over those 12 years.

13 posted on 09/16/2004 10:53:09 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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My husband and I have huge student loans and credit card debt. Our whole generation lives under the cloud of debt.

Impose a lower ceiling on interest rates!!! Ban credit cards!!! Issue a proclamation of debt amnesty for all Americans making under 50K a year!!! I can't stop using exclamation points!!!

14 posted on 09/16/2004 10:54:26 AM PDT by Texas Federalist
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Cutler says she wants Jonah to go to a public school with fewer than 15 students per class, and she feels that with Kerry in the White House, federal money is more likely to go to education.

Move to a small town or take unpopular classes. An alternative is to excel and test into advance placement/college prep classes.

Kerry and the NEA won't ever see us with classes with a dozen students. Smaller classes means more teachers. More teachers means lower salaries for those who were already employed. There is only so much money, sure you get "more" but you still can only spend it on so many things.

One final point, STATES fund schools, not the federal government. Property taxes go to area schools. Here in Texas they tried to have a Marxist "Robin Hood" scheme where rich districts paid for poor districts. So much for moving to a more expensive neighborhood to get into a "better" school.

15 posted on 09/16/2004 10:58:10 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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But the Madison crowd was there, ready to feed off Kerry's energy the way they rocked to Clinton and Gore.

ha ha

16 posted on 09/16/2004 10:59:48 AM PDT by vikingchick
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What a bunch of morons, the way to get back on track is to GET TAXED LESS, SPEND LESS, and SAVE MORE!

Sheesh even I know that and I'm only 24. Once I pay my car off, I'll be debt free. Now mind you I didn't go to college yet, but I'm earning $$$ and doing the self-education thing.

But it seems that the people I know with huge credit card debt are pretty stupid about the spending/saving habits anyways.

I looked for the barf alert, good thing it had one!


17 posted on 09/16/2004 11:01:11 AM PDT by t_skoz
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Do these stupid moms understand that even without insurance they CANNOT be refused medical assistance and treatment?


18 posted on 09/16/2004 11:04:16 AM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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Man I want to give a yank on that ponytail...such lib touchy-feely pablum...perhaps this dork didn't even think about the fact that as the leaves were falling on a crystal blue sky, and slick willy was glancing down the secretary's skirt and doing an audience grope, a grave and gathering threat was taking place that would lead to thousands DEAD in NY...and left unchecked would pull little Madilin and little Zoe out of the those backpacks and shove them under Birkas in 13 years...all they, and the 60's gen, has EVER thought about was...what does this mean to me and my comfortable lifestyle?;...debt shmet, when terrorists waltz into Jonah's school and strap some TNT to the backboards, no one is going to give a rats a$$ about Fleetwood Freaking Mac and how Bill managed to wet his reed way back when...Go W!!
19 posted on 09/16/2004 11:05:45 AM PDT by gbtheshark (So thankful to be living in such interesting times!!!!)
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John Kerry is no Ted Kennedy. Here is a video of Slam Dancing with Ted Kennedy and the Ramones:

http://www.dogeggs.com/pin.swf


20 posted on 09/16/2004 11:06:31 AM PDT by orangelobster
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