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Daniel Weintraub: State poised to move faster on renewable power
Sacramento Bee ^ | September 16, 2004 | Daniel Weintraub

Posted on 09/16/2004 6:40:29 PM PDT by farmfriend

Daniel Weintraub: State poised to move faster on renewable power

By Daniel Weintraub -- Bee Columnist
Published 2:15 am PDT Thursday, September 16, 2004

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is at odds with the Legislature over how best to ensure that Californians have enough electricity to keep the lights on in the years ahead. But whether that electricity comes mainly from monopoly utilities or private generators, Schwarzenegger and lawmakers seem to agree that more of it should be generated from renewable resources.

During his campaign for office last fall, Schwarzenegger pledged to accelerate the state's commitment to renewables by mandating that 20 percent of California's electricity come from such sources by 2010, seven years earlier than required by current law. Now a bill is on his desk that would do just that.

The measure, by Sen. Byron Sher, D-Palo Alto, also would put the state on a path toward using economic incentives, rather than government alone, to nurture a newly robust industry in alternative electricity.

Economic purists will say that renewable energy is an expensive boondoggle that should be allowed to sink or swim (and they think it would sink) on its own. But electricity sources that pollute the air or otherwise harm the environment, while cheaper, owe part of their advantage in the marketplace to the fact that they needn't bear the economic burden of the damage they do. Government policies favoring renewable resources seek to level that playing field.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: electricity; energy; environment; power; renewable

1 posted on 09/16/2004 6:40:31 PM PDT by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend

This can be read as "not content to just piss taxpayer's money away, the state is investing in a fire hose".


2 posted on 09/16/2004 6:48:42 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: farmfriend
Renewable resources meaning, anything but wood.
3 posted on 09/16/2004 6:54:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Renewable resources meaning, anything but wood.

LOL! Yep.

4 posted on 09/16/2004 7:00:21 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Renewable resources meaning, anything but wood.

Not so... wood waste can be burned to power a generator and still be called renewable. It's fossils, nukes, and large hydro that are non-renewable.

5 posted on 09/16/2004 7:18:04 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: kezekiel

Carry was being sarcastic. The enviros won't let you cut trees.


6 posted on 09/16/2004 7:19:23 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: kezekiel
Not so... wood waste can be burned to power a generator and still be called renewable. It's fossils, nukes, and large hydro that are non-renewable.

Duh. The problem is that the same greenies who won't let anybody thin a forest to produce the fuel are funded by foundations owned by natural gas interests.

7 posted on 09/16/2004 7:21:46 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Duh. The problem is that the same greenies who won't let anybody thin a forest to produce the fuel are funded by foundations owned by natural gas interests.

Intriguing... care to name names?

8 posted on 09/16/2004 7:32:37 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: farmfriend
Great, nuclear power and space power satellites!

Long overdue.

9 posted on 09/16/2004 7:56:29 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I'm an archaeologist. I Work For A Living!)
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To: kezekiel
Intriguing... care to name names?

Sure. Start with the NRDC, Arnold's principal advisors for his environmental policy.

If you really want to go into depth on the purpose, nature, and adverse environmental consequences of government regulation, as well as a proposal for a free market alternative, consider this book.

10 posted on 09/16/2004 10:28:23 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: kezekiel; Carry_Okie
consider this book.

When I was Legislative Director for the California State Grange, I officially supported Carry's work. As a true nonpartisan grass roots organization we have policy that calls for environmental conservation as well as the preservation of property rights. Carry's work fits with our policy very well. The book is well worth the read.

11 posted on 09/16/2004 10:44:58 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend
What bullshit.

California's energy problems are simple.

Stop the flow of the millions of Mexicans each year into California and energy supplies will catch up.

12 posted on 09/17/2004 5:43:08 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: farmfriend

ANY legislation from Sher is suspect.

He is an enviro-nazi and his supporters are the same.


13 posted on 09/17/2004 5:56:11 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: farmfriend

This is the same Calif legislature that just sent Arnold a bill that says the ROOFS of houses CANNOT be a "dark" color.

That "dark" color includes SOLAR PANELS!!!! The STATE put up covers in the parking lot at Cal Expo, which are yards and yards of solar panels. Work quite well, providing power for the Expo, while providing shade for parked cars. What do they do with that? Economic incentives have been offered in the past, and they are referring to that again in this article. Pay people to use solar, and then tell them they cannot put the panels on a roof? NUTS, just plain NUTS. The combined I Q of the entire bunch in Sacramento has to be under 3 digits.

These idiots talk out of 7 sides of their mouth all at the same time.


14 posted on 09/17/2004 6:01:19 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: farmfriend

This is the same Calif legislature that just sent Arnold a bill that says the ROOFS of houses CANNOT be a "dark" color.

That "dark" color includes SOLAR PANELS!!!! The STATE put up covers in the parking lot at Cal Expo, which are yards and yards of solar panels. Work quite well, providing power for the Expo, while providing shade for parked cars. What do they do with that? Economic incentives have been offered in the past, and they are referring to that again in this article. Pay people to use solar, and then tell them they cannot put the panels on a roof? NUTS, just plain NUTS. The combined I Q of the entire bunch in Sacramento has to be under 3 digits.

These idiots talk out of 7 sides of their mouth all at the same time.


15 posted on 09/17/2004 6:02:07 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: farmfriend
I am very leery of renewables. Wind, in particular, has huge downsides that no one ever wants to discuss. Generous tax credits, accelerated depreciation plans, and state mandates for renewables all work against the consumer in the end (and the environment!).

Very frustrating.
16 posted on 09/17/2004 6:09:13 AM PDT by LisaS
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To: Carry_Okie

Thank you very much for your links in this post.


17 posted on 09/17/2004 6:15:47 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: AmericanVictory
You are quite welcome. Explains a lot, doesn't it?

I keep wondering when the conservative talking heads are going to get it. So far, they seem uniformly convinced that the enviros are mereley stupid ideologues. Little do they know.

18 posted on 09/17/2004 6:22:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

bttt


19 posted on 09/17/2004 12:25:53 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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