Federal agents surround ranch in Douglas, Arizona(VIDEO!)

KVOA-TV-Tucson/AP ^ | September 16, 2004 at 5:00PM MST | KVOA-TV-Tucson/AP

[Conservative Firster]

So it begins. The citizens trying to protect their property and their country have become enemies of the state. Illegal aliens have become a protected class free to trash and harass private property and its owners.

SO MUCH FOR BUSH'S "OWNERSHIP SOCIETY".

I GUESS RANCHES ONLY IN CRAWFORD TEXAS ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY.

[Crazieman]

Hate to say it, this is the one thing that forces me to hold my nose while voting for Bush. I love everything else about him, but immigration drives me bonkers. I pray that he takes a turn to the right after being reelected.

[ambrose]

hmmm... I think you mistook this place for the Liberty Post.

[pilgrim]

"The ranch was heavily armed."

[Hank Rearden]

Hate to say it, this is the one thing that forces me to hold my nose while voting for Bush.

So, you're OK with:

- Huge increases in vote-buying Federal spending, like the "free" pills for Greedy Geezers?
- The full-frontal assault on the First Amendment and free political speech?
- Continuing attempts to squish the few "loopholes" that allow 527s like the Swift Boat Vets to speak out?
- Cozying up to Fat Teddy Kennedy on so-called "education"?

etc. etc.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Crazieman]

No, not okay with those either. Signing CFR got me angry too.

[radicalamericannationalist]

sKerry is no better though. I hate to say it, but we need sane Democrats to force GOP politicians to stay principled. Do you think Bush would have pulled this crap if he thought he;d be facing Joe Lieberman this year?

[radicalamericannationalist]

You misread the fine print that said it was an ownership society for Mexico.

[crazyhorse691]

Same garbage used to justify Waco and the latter shootings in Idaho. The Border Patrol doesn't. They can id. and confront a US citizen but they can not perform their real job of (see their name). If its because of politics, funding etc. that can be straightened out if they holler loud enough. Rating out US citizens to the FBI is not hollerin.

[Hank Rearden]

sKerry is no better though.

So why has there been zero pressure on Bush to shape up? "Praying" for him to reform after he's reelected is far too late. He needs to be scared of losing his job now.

Conservatives need to extract promises to cut spending, stop the attacks on the First Amendment and fix the illegal aliens now.

Otherwise, he'll be the same RINO he's been for 4 years. Mark my words; if he coasts to reelection, watch deficits and illegals explode in numbers.

[inkling]

I'm not going to assume the government was the bad guy in this mess. Although I appreciate what the militias in southern AZ are trying to accomplish, they have to be careful they don't turn into vigilante organizations. Let's wait for the facts -- we turn into DU-style blame America firsters.

[FITZ]

Interesting how the Mexican drug cartels can pretty much do as they please -- the other week some Mexicans came over and executed a guy at a Whattaburger and the FBI nor police can do anything about it. An American protecting private property though -- and they'll be there right away.

[radicalamericannationalist]

My thinking is we get him in because of judges. I can't guarantee miracles with him but you know there'd be no hope with sKerry unless we get a Souter-in-reverse.

The trick will be pressuring Congress to rein him in and then preparing for a knock-down-drag-out in 2008 to make sure a true conservative is nominated.

[television is just wrong]

I agree with you on the issue of immigration. I just don't get that part of his plan.

[BnBlFlag]

This is incredible. The FBI attacking people defending their property from criminal alians. I'm supporting Bush because Kerry is even worse. We need to mount an intense campaign to put pressure on Bush to do somthing about the border. The present situation is disgraceful.

[B4Ranch]

>>The trick will be pressuring Congress to rein him in and then preparing for a knock-down-drag-out in 2008 to make sure a true conservative is nominated.<<

You are a Dreamer, a good one too!

[Jack Black]

CW II ping. We have Americans shooting at Americans, one side law enforcement. We have protected classes dividing the USA. We have "gun crimes" (anyone else seen the commercial?). In short, a warning sign of things to come.

[Hop A Long Cassidy]

Ditto, hold your nose and vote for Bush... unless it gets too bad on the immigration front.

Sounds like a replay on the election with "read my lips, no new taxes" and Bush I.

Some day there'll be a 3rd party that supports Western Civilization and is against illegal immigration. Then the new-style Republicans will be in trouble.

All the conservatives will bolt.

Hoppy

[1_Inch_Group]

I'm sick to my stomach.

A migrant's rights organization has just triumphed over a private property owner, and the people he asked to help him protect his land.

This can't be allowed to continue.

My prayers to the families involved. Very sorry for your loss.