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Post 47 and RaTHergate - The story of how CBS was caught perpetrating a hoax on the American People
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 17 September 2004 | by David M. Huntwork

Posted on 09/17/2004 10:47:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

The story of how CBS was caught perpetrating a hoax on the American People.

Poor Lt. Col. Killian died in 1984 but I believe he would be surprised at the stir he created some twenty years after his death. On the evening of September 8th, CBS's 60 Minutes II dropped what they considered to be a (rather convenient) "bombshell" regarding President Bush's service in the National Guard. Directly contradicting Defense Department records showing that in 1973 Lt. Col. Killian praised Mr. Bush's performance and approved his honorable discharge, four memos from Killian impugning the service of Bush during those years were produced with much fanfare. According to CBS, they consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believed the material to be authentic.

Few have published the origination of the chain of events that led up to the implosion at CBS and the stripping of all credibility from Dan Rather. The now famous Freeper Post #47 appeared just hours after the CBS expose on the online community www.FreeRepublic.com.

Post # 47 To: Howlin

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively. 47 posted on 09/08/2004 8:59:43 PM PDT by Buckhead

A few hours earlier another alert Freeper had posted this just minutes after the CBS story aired. Already, the now obvious doubts about the Killian memos were raising a few eyebrows in the blogger community:

To: Howlin

WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN!

They are not in the style that we used when I came in to the USAF. They looked like the style and format we started using about 12 years ago (1992). Our signature blocks were left justified, now they are right of center...like the ones they just showed.
Can we get a copy of those memos?

107 posted on 09/08/2004 5:19:00 PM PDT by TankerKC

The Minneapolis lawyers who run Powerlineblog.com were quickly notified. Two of the blog's readers directed their attention to post #47 on a FreeRepublic.com thread. That day's post on powerlineblog can be viewed here.

After that, the rolling snowball quickly became an avalanche. Several other major blogs, including www.Instapundit.com, quickly seized on this historic breaking story.  Less than twenty four hours after the initial Freeper posts, Drudge did what Drudge does best with the headline "Bloggers drive hoax probe into Bush memos."  Details appeared on The Corner at National Review.com and were followed quickly with The Weekly Standard running a story that revealed that CBS was already deluged with phone calls and that experts were quickly demolishing the "carefully screened" documents so proudly paraded before the public by CBS the night before. The entire article can be found at here. The libertarians at Samizdata were also quick to pick up on the rapid mobilization of the blogosphere in unraveling the CBS story.

It is amazing that CBS in its zeal to find the smoking gun and swing the presidential race back in favor of John Kerry was either fooled by such forgeries at best, or conspired with the DNC at worst, in an attempt to affect the election and deflate the rising balloon of Bush.  The fact that the document analysis can be trusted over one of the major networks is surprising to some, laughed at by others, and reinforces the suspicions of millions who are tired and wary of the yellow journalism passed off as objective media coverage.

The power of the "guys who write in their pajamas" (as one CBS executive derisively called those bloggers questioning the mighty network) has rocked the media establishment yet again and has become the focus of stories in the Washington Times, New York Post, the Wall Street Journal, on ABC News and by Sean Hannity, etc.  FReeRepublic and many of the online communities, commentary and blogger sites are often several days ahead of the "news curve."  Within just hours the "citizen soldiers" of the internet engaged in the wholesale exposure of a devious dirty trick against President Bush. The ever vigilant online communities quickly destroyed CBS News' much-heralded investigative report about the president's National Guard service in the early 1970s. Increasingly, the maligned "amateurs" on the net are the ones creating, driving and exposing the news with the rest of the more traditional press outlets following in their stead. We saw this many times during the Clinton era scandals and most recently with the vast inconsistencies in the many versions and citations regarding John Kerry's medals and his mysterious (non) Christmas in Cambodia fighting the Khmer Rouge.

The story continues to grow by the hour. The documents in question have been traced back to a Kinko's in Texas from which they were originally faxed, and the manager of the store has "secured" the security tapes that would have revealed the identity of the forger or perhaps of one of his accomplices. According to The American Spectator, the documents surfaced within the Kerry campaign 6 weeks ago, delivered by "a retired military officer."  Members of Congress are now starting to weigh in, and many are demanding that CBS reveal the source of the documents in question.

This statement remains on the CBS website:

In addition, the documents are backed up not only by independent handwriting and forensic document experts but by sources familiar with their content. Contrary to some rumors, no internal investigation is underway at CBS News nor is one planned. We have complete confidence in our reporting and will continue to pursue the story.

The amateur sleuths and "the pajama people" continue their job as the watchdog of the watchers, and the MSM (Mainstream Media) has taken yet another blow to its already suspect reputation. Did I mention that forging military documents is a felony? It's only a matter of time before the conspirators are revealed. By then few will probably care, but those of us who inhabit cyberspace will smile with satisfaction that it was the vigorous vigilance of a few of their own, and the web of people on The Web, that foiled the smearing of a presidential candidate and the hijacking of an election.

David M. Huntwork is a conservative activist and freelance columnist in Northern Colorado. His columns may be read at http://dkhunt.tripod.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; forgery; killian; memogate; napalminthemorning; pajamabrigade; papajulietcompany; post47timeline; rathergate
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1 posted on 09/17/2004 10:47:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Bttt! :)


2 posted on 09/17/2004 10:48:29 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan (We childproofed our home, but they are still getting in)
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To: Jim Robinson

Congratulations to Jim and everyone here at FR. It looks like our efforts are reaching critical mass.


3 posted on 09/17/2004 10:49:41 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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To: Jim Robinson
Already posted. :^)
4 posted on 09/17/2004 10:50:28 AM PDT by OSHA (Don't call them forgeries. Dan wants to be the one to break that news.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump for credit where credit is due...


5 posted on 09/17/2004 10:51:11 AM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ya done good BTTT!


6 posted on 09/17/2004 10:52:03 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I've SEEN the "Village" -- and I don't want it raising my children!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Now go and look what you've done! ;-D


7 posted on 09/17/2004 10:53:24 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Post #47: Note to Big Brother... the Memory Hole is Officialy CLOSED!)
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To: Jim Robinson; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; ...
How FR busted CBS and the dan blather Memogate ping!!!!!
8 posted on 09/17/2004 10:53:30 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Charter member of the VRWC - and proud of it. - - - Hear BS on See BS.)
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To: Jim Robinson

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9 posted on 09/17/2004 10:53:55 AM PDT by Diogenes
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THE TRUTH PING!!!!

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10 posted on 09/17/2004 10:54:03 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: Jim Robinson

What kind of Pajamas was everyome wearing? ; )


11 posted on 09/17/2004 10:54:06 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather don't need no stinkin facts, he is a journalist and therefore above reproach.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Bump to the top.
12 posted on 09/17/2004 10:54:20 AM PDT by MrConfettiMan (I hate the word blog. The MSM is not MS.)
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To: eureka!
Bump for credit where credit is due...

The pajama manufacturers deserve some credit too! (Damn, they're all in China!)

13 posted on 09/17/2004 10:54:40 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Jim Robinson
FReeRepublic and many of the online communities, commentary and blogger sites are often several days ahead of the "news curve."

From my observations, the "bubble-time" is about 4 days.

14 posted on 09/17/2004 10:54:44 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Jim Robinson; sweetliberty; Mo1; nicmarlo; TheLion

Great article!


15 posted on 09/17/2004 10:55:55 AM PDT by Budge (<><)
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To: Jim Robinson
The story continues to grow by the hour. The documents in question have been traced back to a Kinko's in Texas from which they were originally faxed, and the manager of the store has "secured" the security tapes that would have revealed the identity of the forger or perhaps of one of his accomplices.

Good Work Kinko's.

This is new news I believe. An excellent approach by Kinko's to preventing the burglary of the tapes and records being planned by the DNC.

16 posted on 09/17/2004 10:56:49 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Jim Robinson
Hey. That's a Times Roman font there.

< |:)~

17 posted on 09/17/2004 10:57:06 AM PDT by martin_fierro (_____oooo_( )_oooo_____)
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To: Jim Robinson
It is amazing that CBS in its zeal to find the smoking gun and swing the presidential race back in favor of John Kerry was either fooled by such forgeries at best, or conspired with the DNC at worst, in an attempt to affect the election and deflate the rising balloon of Bush.

If the timeline of the new DNC commercials is correct ( Fortunate Son), then we have PROOF of collusion between CBS and the DNC. PROOF.
18 posted on 09/17/2004 10:57:17 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Jim Robinson

I've added this to my "linked" (used to be bookmarked) threads on my HR page.


19 posted on 09/17/2004 10:57:28 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-1986)
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To: Revolting cat!

Re#13 LOL.


20 posted on 09/17/2004 10:57:51 AM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!


21 posted on 09/17/2004 10:57:56 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Jim Robinson

Right on.

22 posted on 09/17/2004 10:58:05 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jim Robinson
FReeRepublic and many of the online communities, commentary and blogger sites are often several days ahead of the "news curve."

Hell, half the time they're (We're) the only ones AWARE of the "news curve".

23 posted on 09/17/2004 10:58:54 AM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Unless Hillary shuts down the Internet, that thread will be a part of history.


24 posted on 09/17/2004 10:58:59 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for making this possible Jim.

One man CAN make a difference. Especially if he rallies an army to his side.

FR is the flagship, but it is supported by an army of other bloggers at other sites on the web.

WE are the Minutemen of today. And the times are just as perilous as the days when Paul Revere made his midnight ride.


25 posted on 09/17/2004 10:59:06 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Jim Robinson
but those of us who inhabit cyberspace will smile with satisfaction that it was the vigorous vigilance of a few of their own,


personally,I won't smile with satisfaction until people like Sandy Berger, who broke serious laws, being the former
National Security Adviser, is sentenced to 20 years in a federal prison.


Doogle
26 posted on 09/17/2004 11:00:37 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th AF...Wolf Pack...408MMS ....Ubon,Thailand in "69" Night Line Delivery.AMMO)
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To: McGruff
Unless Hillary shuts down the Internet, that thread will be a part of history.

Naww, we just have to make sure Owl Bore dosen't 'un-invent' it!

27 posted on 09/17/2004 11:00:49 AM PDT by GaltMeister (This is not my tagline. My family has it. The tagline belongs to my family.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Look what your baby has done.


28 posted on 09/17/2004 11:00:50 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Jim Robinson
I've never done this so please bear with me....... Jim, is this really breaking news? (lol) And, "Jim, let's keep the vanities to a minimum please"

(By the way, congrats.... ;^)

29 posted on 09/17/2004 11:01:30 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guess what? Your 72 virgins look like Michael Moore!)
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To: Jim Robinson
but those of us who inhabit cyberspace will smile with satisfaction that it was the vigorous vigilance of a few of their own, and the web of people on The Web, that foiled the smearing of a presidential candidate and the hijacking of an election.

Smile indeed!

30 posted on 09/17/2004 11:01:44 AM PDT by AZamericonnie (46 more days.....to the end of the madness! (I hope))
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To: Jim Robinson
Pajama Republic?
31 posted on 09/17/2004 11:01:50 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Howlin

I noticed you got some recognition too for being there on that thread!


32 posted on 09/17/2004 11:02:30 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guess what? Your 72 virgins look like Michael Moore!)
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To: Buckhead; TankerKC; Howlin; All

Found this article in my email box this morning.

Congratulations everyone!! Great job!!


33 posted on 09/17/2004 11:02:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Freeper Post #47: the post that will live in infamy!!

And I in particular think it makes a good epitaph on Blather's career!


34 posted on 09/17/2004 11:03:17 AM PDT by lawgirl (It's not about Vietnam- it's about John Kerry's lies about Vietnam.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Arrowhead1952

Bump!


35 posted on 09/17/2004 11:04:56 AM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Underroo man here.... Pajamas are so passe...
36 posted on 09/17/2004 11:05:18 AM PDT by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: Jim Robinson

The congratulations belong to you, for giving us this place.

Lots of people here would be either in jail or psycho wards if you hadn't made this your life's work.


37 posted on 09/17/2004 11:05:29 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: lawgirl

#47, the post heard round the world!


38 posted on 09/17/2004 11:06:10 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Jim Robinson; Americanwolfsbrother; All

All I got to say (and you navy folk will understand) is Bravo Zulu! Congrats on a good job. only 2 more months to keep the pressure up. :)


39 posted on 09/17/2004 11:07:09 AM PDT by Americanwolf ("Be vwey vwey quite! I am hunting DU Twolls! ---Elmer Fuwd Free Republic member and cartoon icon)
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To: Rutles4Ever
It looks like our efforts are reaching critical mass.

Smiling with glee! : )

40 posted on 09/17/2004 11:07:37 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Jim Robinson

Have I told you lately how much I LOVE this site??? Thanks again Jim!!


41 posted on 09/17/2004 11:09:37 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Americanwolf
only 2 more months to keep the pressure up

We're gonna need drugs, lots and lots of drugs, to make it.

Perhaps Jim should put up yet another forum, a medical one.

42 posted on 09/17/2004 11:10:31 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


43 posted on 09/17/2004 11:11:10 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: AZamericonnie
Smile indeed!

Smile?? Heck, I went from a smile to a full gloat several days ago.

44 posted on 09/17/2004 11:11:44 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim you change the world some years ago.


45 posted on 09/17/2004 11:13:09 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think)
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To: Jim Robinson

Could you provide us with the original thread? Or has it expired?


46 posted on 09/17/2004 11:14:05 AM PDT by FoxPro (jroehl2@yahoo.com)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
bump!

almost 75,000 Vets Strong!

47 posted on 09/17/2004 11:15:36 AM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign visit W-04.com AND http://Vets4Bush.com)
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To: Howlin

hey your one of those people that was connected to post #47 your famous! :)

What are you going to do next? (j/k someones got to raze you.)


48 posted on 09/17/2004 11:16:40 AM PDT by Americanwolf ("Be vwey vwey quite! I am hunting DU Twolls! ---Elmer Fuwd Free Republic member and cartoon icon)
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To: FoxPro

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210662/posts?page=47#47


49 posted on 09/17/2004 11:16:54 AM PDT by paulklenk (FOUR MORE WARS!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I'm partial to nighties with a blue roses print. ;)


50 posted on 09/17/2004 11:18:06 AM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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