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1 posted on 09/17/2004 3:46:42 PM PDT by DotIssues
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To: tryontheglasses.com

Who would have guessed.


2 posted on 09/17/2004 3:47:43 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and Weather are our only news.)
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To: tryontheglasses.com

Charles at LGF says no-one ever contacted him.
See their thread here...
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=12674


3 posted on 09/17/2004 3:48:22 PM PDT by DotIssues
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ROFLOL.

All right, who's got the "Not this sh-- again" graphic?

Just one great big right-wing conspiracy.


5 posted on 09/17/2004 3:49:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Success has a thousand fathers...
6 posted on 09/17/2004 3:50:29 PM PDT by Shermy
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CNS was the first internet site recognized by drudge on the scandal. They picked it up from freerepublic. Plus they are an advertiser here on FR


7 posted on 09/17/2004 3:50:57 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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Creative Response Concepts (CRC), the VA-based agency promoting the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, used right-wing blogs and news sites to turn a CBS report casting doubt on President George W. Bush's National Guard service into a potential black eye for both the network and the Democrats.

BULL SHORTS!
8 posted on 09/17/2004 3:52:29 PM PDT by Jackson Brown
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Lies, all of it. Self-serving PR firms want to generate PR for themselves. Charles Johnson of LGF denies any interaction with them and I believe the FReepers when they say they are acting independently.

The only possibility is that the PR firm would have worked with Instapundit or Powerline, but I don't think that's likely either. For one thing, Insta is based in Tennessee. and Powerline is in Minnesota. Secondly, they have never (as far as I know) mentioned working with PR firms (since they prefer openness, I believe them).

This self-serving lie by a PR firm plays into DUers conspiracy theories. The PR firm is hoping conspiracy-minded Dems will believe their story and lend it credibility.

9 posted on 09/17/2004 3:52:40 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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PRWeek tells its PR readership that PR firms were central to the Memogate story. Talk about stroking.


10 posted on 09/17/2004 3:52:52 PM PDT by macbee (Hanlon's Razor: "Never ascribe to villainy that which is best explained by stupidity.")
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Doesn't Carville belong to one of those DC PR Firms? Wasn't that the premise of the horrible, short-lived, HBO series by George Cluney?


13 posted on 09/17/2004 3:54:59 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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Really happy that PR firm got their first article out at 3:00 PM. By 6:21:07 PM EDT I'd raised the question of "kerning" for the first time on FreeRepublic or any other site.

See: CBS News denies Bush docs forged (then calls back to back off of earlier "expert" claim) Posted by muawiyah to Diogenesis On News/Activism 09/09/2004 6:21:07 PM EDT · 133 of 301

In the end most of the typographical issues raised by most folks, including the supposed experts consulted by the PR firm, were not definitive. Kerning was, and is, of course, definitive ~ you just didn't have that on typewriters in the early 1970s!

14 posted on 09/17/2004 3:56:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Well someone's been cooking this "awol" story for a long time, since Oct 5, 2000. Check out the whois database for awolbush.com:

Domain Name: AWOLBUSH.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Record created on 05-Oct-2000

Registrant:
Tell the Truth, Inc. (AWOLBUSH-DOM)
3 Harbor, #315
Sausalito, CA 94965
US

Domain Name: AWOLBUSH.COM

Administrative Contact:
Easton, W (30326953I) web-admin@awolbush.com
3 Harbor, #315
Salsalito, CA 94965
US
(415) 555-1212 fax: 999 999 9999

Technical Contact:
Hurricane Electric (HE468-ORG) hostmaster@HE.NET
Hurricane Electric
760 Mission Court
Fremont, CA 94539
US
510 580 4100 fax: 510 580 4151

Record expires on 05-Oct-2005.
Record created on 05-Oct-2000.
Database last updated on 17-Sep-2004 18:56:57 EDT.

'whois -h whois.arin.net 65.182.102.15'


OrgName: Brinkster Communicatoins Corporation
OrgID: BCC-134
Address: 885 Kempsville Road
Address: Suite 309
City: Norfolk
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 23502
Country: US

NetRange: 65.182.96.0 - 65.182.111.255
CIDR: 65.182.96.0/20
NetName: ORF-BRINKSTER-COM
NetHandle: NET-65-182-96-0-1
Parent: NET-65-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: ORF-DNS1.BRINKSTER.COM
NameServer: ORF-DNS2.BRINKSTER.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2003-12-12
Updated: 2004-01-13

TechHandle: MICHE2-ARIN
TechName: Thompson, Micheal A
TechPhone: +1-757-222-3424
TechEmail: mthompson@brinkster.com

OrgTechHandle: MICHE2-ARIN
OrgTechName: Thompson, Micheal A
OrgTechPhone: +1-757-222-3424
OrgTechEmail: mthompson@brinkster.com


20 posted on 09/17/2004 4:08:57 PM PDT by VoteHarryBrowne2000 (Mad as Zell!)
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Breaking News story to the MSM. They have twice this election cycle been shown for what they are and they are incensed that amateurs are intruding into the field of professionals. And they still refuse to admit the fact that the upstarts did better investigative work than they did.
24 posted on 09/17/2004 4:29:42 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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It is big news that republicans support the President, much more important than the $millions of a foreign billionaire admittedly designed to defeat the president.

Karl Rove could not have created a better environment for the reelection of the president so he used his powers to activate Terry McAuliff's accumen to field a stable of people so distasteful that every thing they say or do deducts points from their candidate.

Oh, by the way, the volunteer services of CBS and Dan Rather should not be punished, but applauded.

That guy down in Texas who sells bull semen to support his document business and his trips to Kinko's is another Rove creation, and he does not even know it.

That scream from Howard Dean; Don't even ask. And finally, after a thorough search, there was not a better matchup for the contest than someone who had so thoroughly discredited himself in the only two things he has done in his life, the Navy and the Senate, that he could not help imploding.

Karl, so far, so good.


25 posted on 09/17/2004 4:42:03 PM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick)
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OK, this is the second time today that I've posted an article a second time because people won't obey the rule to use the real title and not one they make up. How about an additional to the search feature to let us search on whether a particular URL has been posted? It wouldn't catch all dupes, but it'd be better than the situation we have now.


26 posted on 09/17/2004 5:36:13 PM PDT by John Jorsett (Kerry-Edwards: FORGING AHEAD)
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What "drove" the scandal was the scandal -- a supposedly nonpartisan news service getting caught red-handed perpetrating a hoax to smear the President of the United States. This is a sickening departure from CBS's professional responsibility, an affront to American self-government and a flagrant violation of the principles of fair play.

Everyone understands this kind of arrogance and deceit. The whole country took notice quickly. No PR firms were needed.

27 posted on 09/17/2004 5:57:56 PM PDT by T'wit (Genuine, personally autographed photographs of Genghis Khan for sale. Contact D. Rather at CBS News.)
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The PR firm may well have passed the story on to Drudge. I don't doubt it. But it was hardly necessary. Drudge monitors FR, and probably about ten thousand freepers passed the story on to him too.

To give him credit, Drudge was crucial. He's the guy chiefly responsible for moving it from the internet to the mass media.


28 posted on 09/17/2004 6:09:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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"After the CBS story aired, [CNS] called typographical experts, got them on the record that these papers were fishy, and posted a story by 3pm Thursday," said CRC SVP Keith Appell.

The story was largely over by Thursday morning. 3 pm Thursday? Please.

29 posted on 09/17/2004 6:21:27 PM PDT by Physicist
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The bottom line is that the PR firms acted like investigative reporters and the news reporters acted like PR firms.


30 posted on 09/17/2004 7:11:24 PM PDT by knuthom
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These two guys started it all!


31 posted on 09/17/2004 7:17:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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bttt


32 posted on 09/17/2004 7:23:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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