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To: aft_lizard
Please learn to format. Poor formatting makes it a lot of work to find your comments.

That said...

Ts browser to browser you cant extrapolate because Apache is better than ISS then Firefox therefore will be better than IE.

Your argument is that the popularity of a particular piece of software is related to the amount of security problems that it has.

I have offered two examples of how that argument is not valid, yet you continue to go way around the issue in an effort to keep from having to see the truth.

Ever tried to install google toolbar on firefox? or yahoos toolbar?

I fail to see how software add-ons have any relevance to the security of the software itself. Perhaps you can dig down deep into your programming or security experience and explain it to me.

(did you know alot of mal-ware uses the same technology as them but they involuntary install it on your computer)

I did know that. I also know that the more integrated the browser is into the operating system, the easier it is to exploit the computer at a lower level.

I also know that the idea that malware can be installed without the user knowing is a design flaw common to Microsoft software.

And I also know that the history of exploits and the seriousness of those exploits indicate that your position on the popularity of a bit of software having anything to do with it being exploited is silly.

31 posted on 09/17/2004 6:07:27 PM PDT by Knitebane
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To: Knitebane
I fail to see how software add-ons have any relevance to the security of the software itself. Perhaps you can dig down deep into your programming or security experience and explain it to me.>> It goes like this: YOU ANSWERED IT IN YOUR FOLLOWING ANSWER! did you know alot of mal-ware uses the same technology as them but they involuntary install it on your computer) I did know that. I also know that the more integrated the browser is into the operating system, the easier it is to exploit the computer at a lower level.
Now let me make this one last case too you, because after this I am iggying this thread. The reason why IE has more problems is because it is bigger, simple but not accepted by you, fine. OK the reason why having a bigger more broadly accepted browser is more dangerous is because the number of vendors and programs out there are targeted towards it, fine you dont buy that either. OK Now the more programmers and users of said item the more different the programs, ok. Now let me continue on with my bad "formatting". The more there are different programs out there such as yahoo bar, integrated video, java scripted mail clients etc the more people out there get to know the script and the flaws. When you have had literally billions of reviews of software that goes out and works with said browser flaws will be found and exploited. Mozilla hasnt had that sort of exposure with FireFox, it will eventually and it will possibly stand up to the test of time or it wont that remains to be seen.
This argument is over and is quickly going go down to the level of apes tossing shit at each other. So I will leave it at that, if you cant see or understand that view then so be it. But try and keep the insulting out of it.
33 posted on 09/17/2004 7:16:12 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Knitebane

I know I said I was ending this argument.

But I must apoligize I reread my posts, and it seems to me that I am the one being an a**. I dont mean to be on this, sometimes I get flustered.

I stand by my arguments though in either case, just my language can change.


34 posted on 09/17/2004 8:00:56 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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