Skip to comments.Difference in Documents: A Comparison of documents obtained by CBS News and Washington Post
Posted on 09/18/2004 3:50:15 PM PDT by Cableguy
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I guess they overlooked the perfectly centered, typed, header, which is far more solid proof than of the other items they cite. Totally impossible with technology available at the time.
Here are the signatures, side by side. That, alone, says it all.
This proves nothing. Bush authored the one on the left; he did not use WORD 73. The LTC authored the right; he used WORD 73.
Apparently, Killian developed a new signature and lost a state-of-the-art typewriter/word processor within the space of a year...
Hey Dan, go put some ice on it and buy some Vaseline.
Plus all the other mistakes as captured on FR - e.g. use of "0" in front of date on the fakes - signature block on the wrong side of the memo, etc, etc, etc...!!!
I wonder what the Dems are going to counter these with?
Does anyone know what ARPC (NARS) means?
I ask the question because of the RATs' charge that he was supposed to report to some organization or other in Boston.
And last, but certainly not least, NO ONE is questioning the information contained in the FAKE document. I mean just because the evidenciary document is an obvious forgery by a self-admitted Bush hater with a history of false claims against Lt. Bush, there's NO REASON AT ALL that we shouldn't believe the information contained therein. - Dan Rather.
We should quit panicking about the forgeries and delusions of this mental case and immediately call for a full scale CONGRESSIONAL investigation of George W. Bush's TANG service. Where is the OUTRAGE? Where is JUSTICE!?
How long is this stupidity going to last? Same old stuff over and over. The blame game goes on. Does anyone have any idea who is and who can finalize this?
It means Denver, period.
Which, of course, is exactly what Bush has said all along.
(And, no, I didn't know; I had to ask, too.)
When old media gets tired of beating a dead horse!
It has been a while, but I believe that it's:
ARPC- Air Reserve Personnel Center, and
NARS- Non-active reserve status.
I'm sure about ARPC but not the later.
There's another interesting formatting quirk/inconsistency. If the letter in question (on the right side) was indeed typed, why would the typist superscript the "th" in some parts of the letter and not in others? More specifically, the "111th" in the centered letterhead does not have a superscripted "th", whereas in the body of the letter, the "th" is superscripted. This can be accounted for how Microsoft Word decides to do superscripting. Some "paragraph styles" will automatically cause a "th" after a number to be superscripted, while some other styles do not. In general, paragraph styles for normal text (as in the body of a letter) will do it, and those for headers (as in a letterhead) will not. Just a bit more evidence that a word processor was used here.
USA Today has a set of 6 documents, the same 4 that CBS showed, and 2 others. One of the two others has a header with a "superscript th," and THAT header is also perfectly centered.
Yeah. They're forgeries alright. Hey, how did that monospace get in there?? ;-)
Mark for later.
Folks, my cleaning lady is not a rocket scientist and she spotted all the formatting problems immediately. Of course she knew nothing of kerning and proportional fonts. CBS and Dan Rather had to know they were bad.
Danny Boy flew to Dallas today. He and Mary Mapes are in deep trouble and they know it.
What do you mean "finalize it"?!
I'm having way too much fun watching CBS squirm and lie and make fools of themselves. I'm having great fun watching others in the MSM eating one of their own. Plus, Kerry can't get out any message while all this is going on. I don't want to finalize it!
I wonder if Gunga Dan took the Washington Post with him, who has been sticking a dagger into his heart.
Did he stand outside the plane, stick his fingers in the air, and proclaim he wasn't a forger? LOL
ARPC ... Air Reserve Personnel Center [Denver, Co.]
(NARS)... (Non-Affiliated Reserve Section) .. standby reserves essentially
Is there going to be a crowd at the Abilene Kinko's tonight?
Well the the document on the left is definitely suspicious. Here we are to believe that GW Bush is asking for permission to do something when we know that his MO was to use his daddy's pull and disobey orders. It must be a fake.
For the heck of it I searched for 35-13 and found these Air Force orders from 1970:
I guess somehow that Air Force Regulation authorizes the awarding of the Basic Aircrew Member Badge (Permanent).
"P.O. Box 34567" !???
This was like Marge Simpson telling Chief Wiggum that she lives at "123 Fake Street" after she cut off Homer's thumb.
Where did you hear about Dan's trip to Texas today?
Bump for ANOTHER shovelful of dirt on Dan Rather's and CBS' coffins.
Is this document real? It mentions that same regulation:
Does anyone know if we can get hold of Burkett's signature? Then we can take it to an expert to see if there are similarities.
There was a FR thread on it earlier...... don't have a link but Rather may get it in search
Notice the difference in the two different signatures, the dotted "i's" in the name Killian....the true documents have his i's dotted with two noticeably lateral squiggly lines while the forged i's are dotted much like we are taught in handwriting class.
....just an observation..
Dan Rather in Dallas today
Tom Daschole must be very disappointed over this...
C-BS producers and document experts must be rocket scienists, I would have thought only one was real.
Thanks for the info and link. I was gone mostof the day today and could not wait to get back to see what was new on FR. Do you think he is down there to meet up with the Texas evildoers?
There is a reason other than stupidity that Rather's documents are so obviously faked. I don't know what it is, but there is.
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