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'Where The Right Went Wrong' (Patrick J. Buchanan)- New York Times Book Review
NY Times ^ | September 12, 2004 | Michael Kazin

Posted on 09/18/2004 6:07:04 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

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To: spodefly

Bless your heart!


61 posted on 09/18/2004 7:21:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick (A python asleep on the windowsill and a nasty smell were the first signs that all was not well ...)
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To: Sonny M
The John Birch Society was a zealously anti-Communist organization founded by Robert Welch in the late 1950s. Welch had previously voiced the opinion that Dwight Eisenhower was a conscious agent of the international Communist conspiracy.

The JBS was ridiculed a lot by the mainstream media of the day...there was even a popular song making fun of them ("if your mother is a Communist, you'd better turn her in") and the attorney general of the state of California called them a bunch of "little old ladies in tennis shoes."

The organization was named in honor of an American killed by the Communists in China shortly after the end of WWII.

62 posted on 09/18/2004 7:21:34 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: PaleoPal
Just curious ... Have you ever read anything more complicated than a bumper sticker?

You sound like a highly educated mature person. Yes sir, very impressive indeed.

63 posted on 09/18/2004 7:25:52 PM PDT by Gumption
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To: Tax-chick
Bless your heart!

I'm from the South. I know what "Bless your heart" really means ... :)

64 posted on 09/18/2004 7:26:05 PM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: spodefly

I beg your pardon?


65 posted on 09/18/2004 7:28:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (A python asleep on the windowsill and a nasty smell were the first signs that all was not well ...)
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To: Freepdonia

I used to enjoy listening to him, too. He has joined the ranks of the loose nuts like Howard Dean, Algore, John McLaughlin and Kitty Kelley. To name a few


66 posted on 09/18/2004 7:28:34 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Joe Scarborough also has a good book out: Rome wasn't burnt in a day
67 posted on 09/18/2004 7:28:50 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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To: Tax-chick

LOL


68 posted on 09/18/2004 7:30:05 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: MegaSilver
Funny that proponents of the "big tent" theory would use it to justify the inclusion of flaming liberals like Rudolph Giuliani, Arlen Specter, George Pataki, Jim Jeffords, John McCain, etc.

Don't forget the Terminator. We need to flush the above Liberals before 2008, else the GOP will get flushed.

69 posted on 09/18/2004 7:31:20 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Gumption; Prime Choice

What possible good would have come to the US by staying in Lebanon at that time? This was 1983, with the memories of Vietnam still fresh in the public's memory. There would have been no reason to get involved in a civil war in that part of the world while the Cold War was going on. Reagan's mistake was not in leaving Lebanon, it was in entering in the first place. Staying would have been untenable, as even Israel was forced to withdraw. Trying to stay would have resulted in President Mondale. It is better to bite the bullet and correct a bad decision rather than stubbornly sticking to it, particulary when lives are at stake.


70 posted on 09/18/2004 7:32:26 PM PDT by ValenB4
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To: MegaSilver
"nativist," "isolationist," "protectionist," or, my favorite, "RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

For a young fella, you have certainly "got it"...The insults listed (except racist) used to identify Republicans...What would you call em' now??? Recently saw a photo of a parade here on FR...Bunch of people sittin' there watching...As the Flag went by, the only one who saluted the flag was a fella in a wheelchair...In fact, he's the only one who stood up...

America First, money, second...

71 posted on 09/18/2004 7:32:49 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Former Military Chick

One idiot criticizing another. What's the point?


72 posted on 09/18/2004 7:35:51 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Gumption
No one questions the facts he uses, just the remedial conclusions he reaches from those facts. And most of us strongly disagree with those remedies and think we see an obvious prejudice that leads him to those conclusions (to which we disagree) So some of us voice that opinion here at FR. What's the problem?

The problem is that I never see anyone actually refute his supposedly fallacious logic and the conclusions that arise from it. I see vicious ad hominem attacks and unwarranted charges of "racism," "anti-Semitism," "nativism" and the like--attacks, I might add, that used to be heard mainly from people of a progressive persuasion. People should debate the merits of logic and arguments, not play the "race" card whenever it suits them.

And I will say this: it seems like there are a few people on FR who, whenever anyone starts to question Ariel Sharon, the Likud Party, or dispensationalist theology, react as if that person were about to say something "anti-Semitic," "Arabophilic," or "pro-terror." It may well be the case that Sharon/Likud/dispensationalists are right, but it is not healthy to blindly assume that. I always feel like I'm treading dangerous waters even bringing up the remote possibility that they aren't.

73 posted on 09/18/2004 7:36:18 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: Former Military Chick
Laura Ingraham had Pat on her show a couple of weeks ago, and commented that his book was a must have for any Conservative.

His trek to the Reform Party peeved me, not because he went, but because he seemed to jump the Republican ship based on what he said was a faulty platform. How could the Reform Party have possibly satisfied that lack? It couldn't, and so he came off looking like a regular, run of the mill politician, and the pity was that his early allure was due to a perception that he was anything but such a politician.

Having said all that though, listening to him on Laura's show reminded me of why I originally liked and respected him, and replenished that like and respect that had diminished.

He's a very smart guy, and I know that it's popular to dismiss him with calls of anti-semite, bigot, but I don't think that's really fair. I don't think he's an anti-semite, I just think he thinks we should unhitch our wagon to Israel's star. I don't happen to agree with him, but I think he comes by his opinion honestly.

74 posted on 09/18/2004 7:38:36 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ('The faith that stands on authority is not Faith.')
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Don't forget the Terminator.

Actually, I left him out for a reason. Although I wouldn't have voted for him, I must admit that he's at least doing a half-adequate job of keeping the Sacramento Democrats at bay.

We need to flush the above Liberals before 2008, else the GOP will get flushed.'

Agreed. I'm thinking Giuliani looks poised to seize the nomination for President, which would seal the fate of the party once and for all.

75 posted on 09/18/2004 7:38:41 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: Freepdonia
Rush was thinking about voting for him in '92 before he realized how much he had changed.

Yeah, you're right. Rush has changed.

76 posted on 09/18/2004 7:39:19 PM PDT by ValenB4
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To: Drango
Who is Pat Buchanan?

Someone who hates Israel so much he makes common cause with terrorists.

77 posted on 09/18/2004 7:39:31 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Tax-chick
The Proper Use of "Bless His/Her Heart" and "Swanee"
(Original author unknown)

Someone once noted that a Southerner can get away with the most awful kind of insult just as long as it's prefaced with the words, "Bless her heart" or "Bless his heart." As in, "Bless his heart, if they put his brain on the head of a pin, it'd roll around like a BB on a six lane highway." Or, "Bless her heart, she's so bucktoothed, she could eat an apple through a picket fence."

There are also the sneakier ones that I remember from tongue clucking types of my childhood: "You know, it's amazing that even though she had that baby 7 months after they got married, bless her heart, it weighed 10 pounds!"

As long as the heart is sufficiently blessed, the insult can't be all that bad, at least that's what my Great Aunt Tiny (bless her heart, she was anything but tiny) used to say. I was thinking about this the other day when a friend was telling me about her new Northern friend who was upset because her toddler is just beginning to talk and he has a Southern accent. My friend, who is very kind and, bless her heart, cannot do a thing about those thighs of hers, was justifiably miffed about this. After all, this woman had CHOSEN to move to the South a couple of years ago. "Can you believe it?" said my friend. "A child of mine is going to be taaaallllkkin liiiike thiiiissss."

Now, don't get me wrong. Some of my dearest friends are from the North, bless their hearts. I welcome their perspective, their friendships and their recipes for authentic Northern Italian food. I've even gotten past their endless complaints that you can't find good bagels down here.

The ones who really gore my ox are the native Southerners who have begun to act almost embarrassed about their speech. It's as if they want to bury it in the "Hee Haw" cornfield. We've already lost too much.

I was raised to swanee, not swear, but you hardly ever hear anyone say that anymore, I swanee you don't. And I've caught myself thinking twice before saying something is "right much"; "right close"or "right good" because non-natives think this is right funny indeed. I have a friend from Bawston who thinks it's hilarious when I say I've got to "carry" my daughter to the doctor or "cut off" the light. She also gets a giggle every time I am fixin to do somethin'. My personal favorite was uttered by my aunt who said, "Bless her heart, she can't help being ugly, but she could've stayed home."

To those of you who're still a little embarrassed by your Southernness: take two tent revivals and a dose of redeye gravy and call me in the morning. Bless your heart!

And to those of you who are still having a hard time understanding all this Southern stuff, bless your hearts, I hear they are fixin to have classes on Southernese as a second language!

Bye Bye Y'all!
Bless your hearts.

78 posted on 09/18/2004 7:40:28 PM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: Stonedog
Patrick Buchanan has joined the "blame the Jews" school of thought. Actually he joined it over 20 years ago, and no matter what else he says that alone is enough to push him into an area all Republicans can not afford to be in.

I believe a little more accuracy is called for...Pat has never said he was anti-Jewish...He has stated at times that the people that seem to be in control of things are Jewish...IF that's not true, refute it...That's not an anti-Jewish statement...

He's also rabidly anti-free market, and wants the U.S. to never become engaged in anything outside our borders.

Now that's not true at all...Time and again, Pat says he believes in FAIR trade...not free trade...He and I are tired of seeing the Communist Chinese control the economics of the U.S...Quit making stuff up...

79 posted on 09/18/2004 7:41:09 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ValenB4
Yeah, you're right. Rush has changed.

The only guy that changed was Buchanan. Read his columns from the seventies and you will come to the same conclusion.
80 posted on 09/18/2004 7:41:43 PM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours!)
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