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In Rush to Air, CBS Quashed Memo Worries
Washington Post ^ | 09/20/2004 | Howard Kurtz, Michael Dobbs

Posted on 09/18/2004 7:27:43 PM PDT by jhouston

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To: Howlin

That was exactly my thought. In fact, I can't believe that CBS fell for it....LOL


121 posted on 09/18/2004 9:11:02 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org)
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To: fightinJAG

These people (Including Burkett and Rather) have such a long-standing, unhealthy, psychotic hatred of Bush (and conservatives) that they have literally driven themselves crazy, IMO.


122 posted on 09/18/2004 9:12:11 PM PDT by Diddley (C'mon Dan; 'fess up.)
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To: hobson
August 21, and Cleland came to Texas August 24.

Burkett circulated an e-mail on August 21, saying he had been in touch with Cleland. The phone might have taken place on August 21...or sometime earlier.

123 posted on 09/18/2004 9:13:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: UNGN

Dan Bartlett played this perfectly. My hat is off to him.


124 posted on 09/18/2004 9:14:20 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: okie01
On August 25, he posted the message that "we have reassembled [Bush's] files".

$64.00 question who is the "we" besides Burkett = Mapes, Kerry campaign??

125 posted on 09/18/2004 9:14:29 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: bayourod
You're right on the news value. And, consider that Texas was such a Republican dominated state in 1968 that favors were essential. Now the question is why in heck would a Democrat in a Democrat controlled state put such energy (and remembrance) in helping out kid of a Republican Congressman? Something about Barnes is as phoney as his stock swindle.
126 posted on 09/18/2004 9:16:00 PM PDT by plangent
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To: VRWCTexan
$64.00 question who is the "we" besides Burkett = Mapes, Kerry campaign??

Ben Barnes?

127 posted on 09/18/2004 9:17:01 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: okie01

You are correct. I should have been more clear.


128 posted on 09/18/2004 9:18:38 PM PDT by hobson
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To: okie01

for info on Sharpstown Scandal, see
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210174/posts


129 posted on 09/18/2004 9:20:05 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: Inyokern
My money is on Mapes - Barnes comes out and says he's ready to talk - then just two days later (after 4+ years of searching by CBS) the written "proof" suddenly shows up on Mapes door-step - NOT LIKELY!!!!

WE may never know for certain, but I have to believe that Burkett had some "help" in compiling these fakes.

130 posted on 09/18/2004 9:21:36 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Enchante

see this good graphic for comparison of docs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/daily/graphics/guard_091404.html


131 posted on 09/18/2004 9:21:37 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: Jim Robinson
I believe FReepers have observed that the latest Bush-bashing ad series ("Favored Son"?) parrots the CBS story line. Could it be that Rather was in a rush to get this story out to bolster the forthcoming DNC/MoveOn ad campaign?

Of course, it may have simply been that Rather childishly couldn't wait to get his "Big Gotcha!" on the Bushes...

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But you have to admire Bush and the white house guys. Makes you wonder if Bush hasn't fished for catfish: "When you feel ol' Whiskers nibble on the bait, release the reel so there's no drag on the line -- and let him run with it. There's plenty of time to set the hook after he swallows the bait!" ;-}

132 posted on 09/18/2004 9:22:51 PM PDT by TXnMA (FR is "all growed up"! Messin' with this kid now is just askin' for an @$$-kickin'!!!)
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To: hobson

wow! nice visual. did you make that? The perfect picture of inscestual depravity! One question, it says on there that David Van Os (Burkett's lawyer) campaigned with Max Cleland? Do you have sources for that? That could be a key part of the puzzle.


133 posted on 09/18/2004 9:25:52 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm)
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To: bitt
CBS says docs first, then Barnes.

Well really, as I remember it, it was Barnes who said docs first them him, and cited the docs as the reason he decided to finally tell the world the "truth" after all these years.

This was a huge step for him, if you believe he is sincere. He was freed at last when he saw these memos. He no longer had to live the lie!

No memos, no Barnes coming forward. Therefore, he saw then before Mapes or Rather did, but only by a couple days.

That is one extraordinary coincidence if it wasn't coordinated, or as has been suggested, part of a package.

Perhaps Barnes called Dan Rather and said, "I've got documents, and I want to do an interview." Then Dan says: "Ok, fax me the documents so we can "authenticate".

Where is Barnes from..? does he live within a 125 mile radius of that Abilene Kinkos..?
Who says it had to be Burkett that faxed the memos..?
It sounds like he physically handed off the documents, and then was left in the dark, at least up until the time of that email he sent out.

His participation may have ended at the hand-off to the Kerry campaign, and Barnes ran with it from there.
Barnes would make a lot more sense as the "unimpeachable source."

I bet 'ol Dan never even knew it actually came from that Burkett nutjob!
Hahaha! He was duped by Kerry's campaign!
No wonder he was so adamant that it was real.
And no wonder he has so stubbornly protected his sources.
134 posted on 09/18/2004 9:27:42 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: jhouston
The 4th document examiner James J. Pierce is not happy with CBS. c.f. link...


in http://politicalities.typepad.com/ September 15, 2004 entry...
from link...

Pierce is quoted as still reviewing the documents on 9/16, more than one week after the airing. Was Peirce even consulted for his opinion prior to the airing, opposite to what CBS maintains?
135 posted on 09/18/2004 9:27:50 PM PDT by igoramus987
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To: dennisw
"It's nice to an out of control commie scoundrel like Mary Mapes get her come uppance. Hopefully she'll get the boot."

This article targets her very directly. They make several efforts to point out her mistakes (gathering the doc, verifying the doc, ignoring her experts, telling Heyman and the lawyers it was OK at the last minute. They've pinned this on her and I'm beginning to think Dan may survive but she is finished.

136 posted on 09/18/2004 9:28:33 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: traviskicks
What is left of the story? What are the allegations? This CBS story is the shoddiest piece of journalism I have EVER SEEN. I cannot believe it. If I was the CEO of a company that were this incompetent I would fire the lot.

Agreed. It's going to happen. But not in "the heat of the moment". Rather and the rest of these clowns are already fired. They just don't know it yet.

137 posted on 09/18/2004 9:28:33 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (CBS's story is sinking faster than Uncle Ted's Oldsmobile.)
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To: Mo1
On Friday, Sept. 3, the day after the convention ended, Mapes hit pay dirt. She told Howard her source had given her the documents

That's funny .. wasn't it reported they had the documents for 6 weeks??

Actually, that makes sense. Somebody "primed" Mapes by telling her they had documents. That somebody is inside the Democrat party, maybe DNC, maybe Kerry campaign, maybe Barnes, on orders from DNC or Kerry campaign. Then, after she has been "primed," the source provides the documents on September 3.

138 posted on 09/18/2004 9:30:24 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: plangent

Barnes is as big a cad as Kerry. In 1971 he was dating the UT homecoming queen. He dumped her to marry a rich older widow with three kids and run for Governor.


139 posted on 09/18/2004 9:31:11 PM PDT by bayourod (Kerry would avenge the murder of my family by terrorists. Bush would prevent the murders.)
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To: hobson

And this chart will make it on the front page of the New York Times.............
yeah, right


140 posted on 09/18/2004 9:31:48 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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