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Father Says CBS 'Rathergate' Producer Mapes Had An Ax to Grind
Talon News ^ | 9/17/04 | Jeff Gannon

Posted on 09/19/2004 4:09:08 AM PDT by beyond the sea

..............In the years that CBS producer Mary Mapes has been pursuing this story, she never contacted Lt. Col. Jerry Killian's secretary, Marian Carr Knox, until after her existence was revealed by the Drudge Report. On 60 Minutes on Wednesday, Knox said that the documents were forgeries, but the content was accurate.

Mapes interviewed Killian's widow Marjorie Connell and his son Gary. Both expressed doubt to the CBS producer that the documents were real. Neither of them have appeared on the network nor even been mentioned in CBS's reporting.

CBS' own experts have moved away from the authenticity of the documents. One of the experts consulted was Emily Will, a veteran document examiner from North Carolina. She told ABC News that she sent Mapes an e-mail message about her concerns and strongly urged the network the night before the broadcast not to use the documents.

She said, "I told them that all the questions I was asking them on Tuesday night, they were going to be asked by hundreds of other document examiners on Thursday if they ran that story."

If Rather was informed of the doubts, he ignored them, plunging his network into a quagmire. The veteran anchor forged ahead because, as he stated on Wednesday's broadcast, that the charges are so charges are so serious, the evidence of little importance.

His confidence in Mapes may have led him to go with the story, despite the red flags. After all, it was Mapes who brought CBS the Abu Ghraib photos of prisoner abuse and who risked jail by refusing to turn over videotapes of Rather's interview with a man charged in the 1998 dragging death of James Byrd, Jr. in Jasper, Texas.

But Mapes' father sees a political agenda behind his daughter's work. Don Mapes, 76, was a recent guest on a radio talk show hosted by John Carlson on KVI in Seattle.

He said, "I'm really ashamed of what my daughter has become. She's a typical liberal. She went into journalism with an ax to grind, and that was to promote radical feminism."

He confessed to being disappointed in his daughter's role in the controversy. He said, "When I heard about 60 Minutes, I suspected she would be the producer of the show."

In an interview with Talon News, Don Mapes said his suspicion was because that he believed, "Dan Rather and she have been working on this ever since Bush was elected."

In commenting on the Wednesday's 60 Minutes show, he said, "It was a farce, it was fraud. I'm sorry as a father that my daughter was the producer of it."

His fatherly instinct showed through when he said, "To give her the benefit of the doubt, I believe she has been had."

But he also chastised his daughter for being intellectually dishonest.

He said, "She ought to look closer at George Soros or Michael Moore."

Mary Mapes declined several opportunities to comment for this article.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: cbsforgery; cbsnews; documents; killian; kvi; mapes; mariancarrknox; marymapes; pressure; rather
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"She went into journalism with an ax to grind, and that was to promote radical feminism." -- wouldn't you know it!
1 posted on 09/19/2004 4:09:11 AM PDT by beyond the sea
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To: beyond the sea

Christmas at the Mapes house this year might be a little tense.


2 posted on 09/19/2004 4:12:12 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I was born naturally but raised Cesarean.)
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To: beyond the sea

Rather spoke at a fundraiser in Travis County(Austin)...Abilene is near Bill Burkett's home in Baird.


3 posted on 09/19/2004 4:13:08 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

I read in another article that they don't see each other much at all. They can't stand each other. He has said that she is an "embarrassment" to him.


4 posted on 09/19/2004 4:15:43 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: beyond the sea

I'm sure she'll be penning a book soon.
"I was abused by my right-winged Dad"


5 posted on 09/19/2004 4:17:24 AM PDT by FearlessRightwinger
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To: beyond the sea

Poor guy. Imagine how bad you'd feel, being the father of a CBS News producer. Hopefully Mr Mapes has other children, who have done something worthwhile with their lives.


6 posted on 09/19/2004 4:19:06 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: MEG33
Rather spoke at a fundraiser in Travis County(Austin)...Abilene is near Bill Burkett's home in Baird.

Rather is guilty as sin. For one, I am tired of the other flacks in the old media pretending that Dano couldn't have taken part in the fraud purposefully. BULL. He's been crooked for decades.

Look at his face at rest. It has deep dread and guilt written all over it! He's probably going to have to pay in the next life.

7 posted on 09/19/2004 4:19:38 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Yep, right along with Barnes and his daughter. Maybe Mr.Barnes and Ms.Mapes could be a family this year and Barnes' daughter could celebrate the holidays with Mapes' dad.

This could get complicated before the election is finally over....


8 posted on 09/19/2004 4:20:19 AM PDT by Reb Raider
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Christmas at the Mapes house this year might be a little tense.

At the Barnes house as well.

9 posted on 09/19/2004 4:20:33 AM PDT by Rocko (Dan Rather: "I'm GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!")
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To: beyond the sea

Wow....daddy's little girl is a an intellectually dishonest liberal? Who'd'a thunk it?


10 posted on 09/19/2004 4:20:42 AM PDT by Wardawg (Hanoi John Forgery le Kerrie was here.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Hopefully Mr Mapes has other children, who have done something worthwhile with their lives.

Good point. That's something to look into.

11 posted on 09/19/2004 4:21:13 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: beyond the sea
There has to be more to this story - this kind of "mistake" could not have happened in a vacuum, no matter how much the fellow media types praise Dan Milhous Rather and his staff for courage, integrity and good journalism.
12 posted on 09/19/2004 4:22:39 AM PDT by Bernard (Let Freedom Reign)
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To: Reb Raider
Maybe Mr.Barnes and Ms.Mapes could be a family this year and Barnes' daughter could celebrate the holidays with Mapes' dad.

LOL!

Maybe Dan Rather's daughter can spend Chritmas with Dan Rather -- in prison.

13 posted on 09/19/2004 4:23:08 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: beyond the sea
But he also chastised his daughter for being intellectually dishonest.

..And that's the crux of it. Many liberals just can NOT be honest, and have next to no integrity. They are so blinded by fantasy, utopianism and power they can not see what is real.

The easy way to describe them is selfish immature brats.

14 posted on 09/19/2004 4:23:49 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Wardawg
intellectually dishonest liberal

LOL! What's the opposite of an oxymoron?

I think you have one there.

15 posted on 09/19/2004 4:24:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: beyond the sea

She lost her family's respect and her peers respect. This has to be a truely low point in her life.


16 posted on 09/19/2004 4:24:59 AM PDT by VRWC_minion ( I'll send email telling you where to send check.)
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To: beyond the sea

17 posted on 09/19/2004 4:25:21 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: Bernard
There has to be more to this story - this kind of "mistake" could not have happened in a vacuum, no matter how much the fellow media types praise Dan Milhous Rather and his staff for courage, integrity and good journalism.

See post #7.

18 posted on 09/19/2004 4:26:33 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

"Christmas at the Mapes house this year might be a little tense."

Sounds like it wouldn't be the first time.


19 posted on 09/19/2004 4:27:37 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Rome2000

?


20 posted on 09/19/2004 4:27:38 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: beyond the sea

Its a pic of Mary Mapes


21 posted on 09/19/2004 4:30:19 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: Wardawg

"Intellectually-dishonest liberal is like saying "cold ice" or "hot fire."


22 posted on 09/19/2004 4:34:36 AM PDT by OhMike (He which hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart...we would not die in that man's company.)
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To: beyond the sea

The members of the media brotherhood say Rather would never knowingly participate in perpetrating a fraud...

So he is only guilty of a Get Bush mindset,blind devotion to or falling in love with a story, extreme bias, blind devotion to the dem party, stupidity, careless unprofessional journalistic conduct,extreme arrogance,thinking the public is stupid?..Gee, that makes me feel better?


23 posted on 09/19/2004 4:36:17 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: Rome2000

I must be blind.


24 posted on 09/19/2004 4:39:17 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: beyond the sea

In this instance, the opposite of oxymoron would be "TRUTH"


25 posted on 09/19/2004 4:39:50 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: beyond the sea
"promote radical feminism"

Friend Of Hillary?

26 posted on 09/19/2004 4:41:57 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ ((considering upgrading to pajamas))
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To: beyond the sea
"She went into journalism with an ax to grind, and that was to promote radical feminism." -- wouldn't you know it!

Yep, I would believe it.

27 posted on 09/19/2004 4:42:31 AM PDT by Chief_Joe (The Sun, it also rises...wash thy troubles away.)
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To: beyond the sea

At least know her parents aren't to blame. But it's pretty surprising to see family members blow the whistle. Maybe it's like a "tough love" intervention. First the daughter of Barnes and now Mapes and her dad.


28 posted on 09/19/2004 4:44:23 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: beyond the sea

Father will be against daughter and daughter will be against father. I have not come to bring peace to the world.

I think these critical family members could be heros, interested in holiness more than family harmony.

Maybe the Vice President could learn from Alan Keyes on this matter.


29 posted on 09/19/2004 4:45:38 AM PDT by ItIsATigerIMarried
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To: Reb Raider
Looks like some family counseling is in order for quite of few of these journalists. As previously mentioned, the holidays may be difficult this year.
30 posted on 09/19/2004 4:47:11 AM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: beyond the sea

Evidently the "liberal" agenda of family destruction ('The fatherland instead of the father') has taken hold in TX.


31 posted on 09/19/2004 4:48:19 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Wardawg
When it comes to contemporary liberalism, intellectually dishonest is understood whenever one uses the word liberal.
32 posted on 09/19/2004 4:50:56 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Poor guy. Imagine how bad you'd feel, being the father of a CBS News producer. Hopefully Mr Mapes has other children, who have done something worthwhile with their lives.

LOL!!! I almost spit my tea all over my computer when I read this! I have a daughter and was thinking along these lines, and feeling somewhat guilty about it. After your comment I feel somewhat vindicated in thinking this way.

33 posted on 09/19/2004 4:52:04 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Poor guy. Imagine how bad you'd feel, being the father of a CBS News producer. Hopefully Mr Mapes has other children, who have done something worthwhile with their lives.

He's still proud of his son, the piano player in the whorehouse.

34 posted on 09/19/2004 4:57:49 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: beyond the sea
Hey Dan, are you listening?

Ben Barnes' own daughter has discredited him and now Ms Mapes' own father has discredited her! And you still have not aired Mr. Killian's widow's or son's views!

Dan, you can't lie and still be a good person like you have expressed before!
It doesn't work that way!

35 posted on 09/19/2004 5:00:54 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: beyond the sea
He said, "I'm really ashamed of what my daughter has become. She's a typical liberal. She went into journalism with an ax to grind, and that was to promote radical feminism."

Get the smelling salts! I'm having an attack of the vapors!

36 posted on 09/19/2004 5:05:02 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: lainde
At least know her parents aren't to blame.

If her parents are Pro-Life, then abortion was probably not an option.

37 posted on 09/19/2004 5:06:59 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: lainde
But it's pretty surprising to see family members blow the whistle.

"Whoever puts family before me is not worthy of me." --Jesus

38 posted on 09/19/2004 5:07:44 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Maybe she can spend Xmas with Ben whats-his-name since his daughter is also on the outs.


39 posted on 09/19/2004 5:12:11 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: beyond the sea
Yes, Rather is "guilty as sin" as you say. And, it is the free-pass that the liberal media has been given all these years that has brought them down.

What I mean is that since they are never called on their bias (by each other), they get bolder and bolder. Finally, Dan and CBS go with a clear fraud ("for the greater good") and are blindsided by it. They brought it on themselves, and it is served up perfectly.

40 posted on 09/19/2004 5:12:39 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Rome2000

Mapes from 1999 when she was defying a court order

41 posted on 09/19/2004 5:13:46 AM PDT by dennisw (There)
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To: TheGeezer
When it comes to contemporary liberalism, intellectually dishonest is understood whenever one uses the word liberal.

Just to Chime in and say your observation is at the heart of the question that is effecting this election.

Should we as informed individuals continue to support or allow individuals that clearly have agendas that drive their world view away from reality?

I worked in D.C. for 10 years and became somewhat used to having to be PC in many discussions (just to avoid wrath and be civil), rather than being honest.

It is difficult to honestly discuss these issues with liberals. I really do not like being called a hateful person, just because my view of life is based on Scriptures and not on the personal feelings of a few fringe elements.

The times when I did speak up, it was evident my career would become affected, so silence in the workplace was a prudent choice (for me).

It seemed every month we celebrated some new neglected people group.

Several of the groups were so highly considered, that members were granted time away from work, with pay, to attend their events.

We had NOBLE, Natl' Organization of Blacks in Law Enforcement. Then we had WIFLE, Women in Federal Law Enforcement.

I was trying to start up a new group called SNIFFLE -

Several Neglected Insignificant Fat Fellows in Law Enforcement.

Hey, we are a people group too!!

42 posted on 09/19/2004 5:15:55 AM PDT by Dustoff45
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Don't invite me to Christmas at Mapes
My gifts may be forged papers and tapes
Cocktail hour may be tense
The arguments much too intense
And I'll bet she makes lousy canapes.

Leni

43 posted on 09/19/2004 5:20:46 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: dennisw
November 11, 1999
Jasper trial #3 will not move, but CBS does

Judge Joe Bob Golden rejected a motion for change of venue in the dragging death trial of Shawn Berry.
Golden ruled that the motion was filed by Berry's attorney to delay the trial.
With this ruling the way was cleared for the Jasper County jury to hear opening arguments.
In another note from Jasper, CBS producer Mary Mapes will not be going to jail. CBS attorneys and Jasper county prosecuters negotiated late into the night to reach a comprimise.
CBS agreed to post the transcript of the interview on its web site and provide a copy of the transcript to Jasper county officials. In return Mapes would not go to jail and the tapes would not need to be provided.

 


Mapes

44 posted on 09/19/2004 5:21:21 AM PDT by dennisw (There)
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To: beyond the sea

You have to feel his pain, poor Dad! I read an article about Susan Saradon's Mom, the Mom is moderate or conservative. I guess it happens in family's.


45 posted on 09/19/2004 5:24:39 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: Dustoff45
SNIFFLE:   Several Neglected Insignificant Fat Fellows in Law Enforcement.

ROTFL!!!!!

46 posted on 09/19/2004 5:24:49 AM PDT by jigsaw (Taglinus FreeRepublicus 42: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1216240/posts)
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To: ItIsATigerIMarried

Someone should for a support Group for Parents who have liberal lying offsprings.


47 posted on 09/19/2004 5:27:08 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: beyond the sea
If Rather was informed of the doubts, he ignored them, plunging his network into a quagmire.

Excellent turn of phrase to use against Rather the Bush-hater.

48 posted on 09/19/2004 5:29:35 AM PDT by twntaipan (How Do You Spell Fraud? R-A-T-h-e-r)
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To: lainde

Better late than never. It's a shame when a family breaks apart.


49 posted on 09/19/2004 5:35:52 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: Aquinasfan

A nice treat a day in the news on this Rathergate story!


50 posted on 09/19/2004 5:38:03 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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