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Rush was WRONG !!
Open Secrets, EIB Institute for Advanced Concervative Studies ^ | Sept. 21, 2004 | Broker

Posted on 09/21/2004 5:13:15 AM PDT by Broker

On his Monday radio show, Rush reviewed political contributions and erroneously credited Corporate and Institutional political contributions to the Kerry Campaign. A more critical reivew of his source notes these funds originate from employee PACs. Corporate contributions to campaigns are illegal.

Needless to say, Rush Limbaugh's comments caused a tidal wave of discontent from his incorrect attribution. The accused heard rage from their investors and clients. In fact "Open Secrets" records show some these same PACs contributed more to Bush than Kerry!

It appears that in this case, Rush Limbaugh is half right and half wrong!


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: campaign; contributions; donations; kerry; limbaugh; pacs; politics
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Yes, pajamahadeen is more current.

But I'm feeling passe this morning...;-D


41 posted on 09/21/2004 5:36:32 AM PDT by Judith Anne (First we were digital brownshirts then we were pajamahadeen, now we're the piranha of the internet)
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To: ShandaLear

Didn't hear the show, at the dentist office with the wife.

Clarification will come from Rush, if needed.


42 posted on 09/21/2004 5:37:53 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Kerry broke the faith, pure and simple.)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

I considered emailing him and still might do it. I am a member of 24/7 and need to replay the comment before I do that. Want to know exactly what he said.


43 posted on 09/21/2004 5:40:54 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Rather lied, CBS News died.)
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To: Broker

Even if I could understand jibberish Rush is still 97.5% right.


45 posted on 09/21/2004 5:58:34 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Broker

46 posted on 09/21/2004 5:59:14 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: harpu


Folks. Rush attributed the dollar amounts to Institutions not their PACs. These PACs play both sides. His comments caused unwarranted distress.

Finally, I LOVE Rush. The truth will set you free.


47 posted on 09/21/2004 6:01:36 AM PDT by Broker (DITTOs)
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To: Broker

48 posted on 09/21/2004 6:01:43 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Broker
I worked for a "major financial institution" and paid into a PAC and the money went to support candidates on both sides...no business is going to draw a line on who they support in case the other guy gets elected. I think they support the right more then the left in votes though...they're not stupid!

I didn't have a problem with it and it was my money so why should anyone else care?
49 posted on 09/21/2004 6:04:25 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (W stands for Why don't you just sit down and shut the hell up John Kerry)
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To: Popman

Those of us who have listened to Rush for a long time know that Rush will sometimes throw his listeners a curve ball. This "erroneous" statement could be a "spoof" on the Rathergate story and Rush will see if his listeners are paying attention. If it turns out that Rush was mistaken, he will, as he has always done in the past, correct it with an apology. Rush has class. Rather does not.


50 posted on 09/21/2004 6:04:40 AM PDT by smiley (Watch out Dems! I'm a William F. Buckley Conservative!!)
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To: arasina

Kerry PAC Contributors:

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/contrib.asp?id=N00000245&cycle=2004

Bush PAC Contributors:

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/contrib.asp?id=N00008072&cycle=2004


51 posted on 09/21/2004 6:08:47 AM PDT by Broker (STILL IN PAJAMAS)
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To: arasina

If you dance with the devil...... guess what...... sound like more excusess from the left .... i am a victim ...oooo i created a PAC to get what i wanted from Politicians..... i didnt realize there was a down side...... maybe your corporation should stop the PAC if it cant control it ...... it gave money to Kerry.... so now there are consequences... it is not a situation of balance... your PAC did it... so now realize your investment..


52 posted on 09/21/2004 6:30:44 AM PDT by Gibtx (focus.........)
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To: Broker
Broker.. Broker.. Broker..

Money buys access to the politicians that write the laws that effect the profitability of corporations. An expensive two hour lunch with a Senator to state your case may move that Senator to vote to make you the winner instead of the loser.

Corporations hire Washington based consultants to come in and set up the PAC drive. Employees have NO SAY in where the PAC representatives in control of the funds (executive management) what political party will benefit. All they are told is that the money will go to influence those legislators Republican or Democrat in the best position to protect the best interest of the Corporation.

Everything is stricly voluntary and confidential, and it is stressed to employees that no retribution will come from their refusal to participate. In fact the contribution forms are sent by the employee confidentially via mail to a remote office. i.e. the management staff responsible for participating in the drive via the canned presentation supplied by the consultant never know beyond the presentation who is giving what.

53 posted on 09/21/2004 6:49:50 AM PDT by The Real Eddie01 (John Kerry is Flakier than a Crisco Pie)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Employee PACs are comparable to employee contributions to United Way.

But at least where I work, you can select from a set of alternate charities to direct the money to. My contributions go to a local hopsice, march of dimes, etc. United Way doesnt get my dough!

54 posted on 09/21/2004 7:28:56 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Broker
Rush Limbaugh is sometimes wrong in the details and sometimes wrong in a much broader way. Having read over critiques of what he's said by those who don't like him, I think that the two primary causes are (A) he does most of his show extemporaneously so he lacks the safeguards of a written script or carefully prepared notes and (B) he reframes and simplifies complex issues to make them easier to understand (that's his primary value to conservatives, in my opinion) and sometimes simplifies important details out of what he's saying. I don't think he purposely lies and I wish he'd do a better job of catching his mistakes and correcting them, but I think the problem is largely a side-effect of the nature of his show.
55 posted on 09/21/2004 8:28:55 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

Thank you for your insight. Rush is a fantastic media force. The details of his point on campaign contributions needed inspection. A little further analysis on his part would have prevented considerable unrest if he attributed the PACs not Institutions as the source of campaign contributions.


56 posted on 09/21/2004 9:00:34 AM PDT by Broker (Stack of Stuff)
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To: Broker

My money's on these donations going to 527s.
If so, Rush will clarify.


57 posted on 09/21/2004 9:04:19 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: Broker

Nit-picking.


58 posted on 09/21/2004 9:05:20 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Old Sarge

How can you tell if you are?


59 posted on 09/21/2004 9:06:56 AM PDT by DennisR (Anyone who believes we evolved from ooze is either very stubborn, very blind, or both.)
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To: Broker

Employee PAC's are usually setup by the company. Is this a more nuanced opinion?


60 posted on 09/21/2004 9:09:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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