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Will draft fears sway voters?
msnbc ^ | Sep 19, 04 | msnbc

Posted on 09/21/2004 9:25:04 PM PDT by churchillbuff

Elect George Bush, some Kerry surrogates said last week, and you or your children will be drafted to fight in Iraq.

Inspiring fear in voters seems to be in political vogue this fall. (Cheney has since amended his comments to say he meant to argue that Bush has a more serious approach to deterring terrorists than does Kerry.)

Some voters seem inclined to believe that Bush would attempt to revive conscription, which ended 31 years ago.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: draft; iraq; lyingmediascum; mediascum
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1 posted on 09/21/2004 9:25:04 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Laughable. And your thoughts on the matter?


2 posted on 09/21/2004 9:26:10 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: churchillbuff

If I recall correctly, the whole idea of bringing back the draft belongs to Charlie Rangel.


3 posted on 09/21/2004 9:26:42 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: churchillbuff; shield
Viacom owner of CBS: MTV Running Ad Saying Kids Will Be Drafted!!"








4 posted on 09/21/2004 9:26:53 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: churchillbuff

Not a chance of a draft.


5 posted on 09/21/2004 9:29:28 PM PDT by CPT Clay (57 in '04)
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To: Paleo Conservative

This is all tying togehter too nicely.


6 posted on 09/21/2004 9:29:56 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: churchillbuff

I don't understand why this benefits Kerry when the ones proposing a bill to bring back the draft are Rangel and Hollings-both dems. ????


7 posted on 09/21/2004 9:31:02 PM PDT by sandlady
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To: blogblogginaway

That's why I have posted my post to every CBS thread on Free Republic started since about 11:00 AM CDT. I'm trying to make sure as many people as possible see it.


8 posted on 09/21/2004 9:31:43 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: churchillbuff

If they'd think it out, they'd realize a draft is much more likely with Kerry.

Neither Kerry or Bush can leave Iraq immediately, but Bush is more likely to use the heavy duty artillery in battling the enemy and other tactics which require less manpower.

On the other hand, Mr. Kerry's tactics likely would require more men , both in more "humane" rules of engagement and more men needed to protect the German and French contractors who would be welcomed into the theatre in the event of a Kerry presidency.


9 posted on 09/21/2004 9:31:56 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Paleo Conservative
I think I'd be more worried about my kid being drafted in 3 years or so if Kerry gets elected and pulls us out of Iraq, leaving Iraq to a nuclear enabled Iran and Syria that would be threatening Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait and Israel along with a large chunk of our oil imports.
10 posted on 09/21/2004 9:32:35 PM PDT by whershey
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To: sandlady

Because the rumors leave out who the sponsors are.


11 posted on 09/21/2004 9:32:43 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: churchillbuff
First, the only ones seriously talking about bringing back the draft are Dems. Second, the Pentagon said that they don't want the draft back.

The local paper (Grand Rapids Press) did something about this not that long ago. They ran a big, front-page story about the draft which said, basically, that it wasn't going to happen.

MGY
12 posted on 09/21/2004 9:33:15 PM PDT by TitanicMan2003 (The Dems hit the iceberg, and refuse to accept it)
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To: churchillbuff

Standard summary #4F:

Yes there are draft proposals, almost all Democrat.

They have NOTHING to do with military manpower requirements.

As intended-to-fail proposals, they are straw men set up
so that Kerry+Edwards can promise to oppose them (even
though they probably support them - see below). When do
you need to worry about what Kerry's plans are on an
issue? When he takes a position, any position.

Bush already opposes draft proposals, but don't expect
the legacy media to tell you this.

As serious proposals, they have everything to do with
Universal National Service - stealing two years from
every life, then 3, then 4, and why stop there ...

And National Service has nothing to do with service.
It has everything to do with indoctrination of the slaves.
Which means that if the "progressives" ever get control
again, kiss your liberty goodbye.


13 posted on 09/21/2004 9:33:49 PM PDT by Boundless
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A draft, when all brances of the military are meeting their recruiting targets?

This is nothing but fear-mongering by Kerry and you, churchillbuff.

Gloom-gloom-gloom. Not enough gloom today, we'll have more gloom tomorrow.

14 posted on 09/21/2004 9:34:16 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: CWOJackson

Do you see a pattern here?


15 posted on 09/21/2004 9:34:36 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)
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To: churchillbuff

Yeah, and he'll take away your social security, throw you grandparents out on the street, give guns to gangs, and force you daughters to have back alley abortions. yadda yadda yadda


16 posted on 09/21/2004 9:35:29 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: churchillbuff

Is this a daily thing with you, or what?


17 posted on 09/21/2004 9:35:30 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)
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To: blogblogginaway

They are not only running ads, but there is an extensive email campaign that is spreading through the internet claiming that if George Bush wins, it's the draft for all young people. I've seen several versions of this go by.

Though it's bogus information, it's creating a lot of fear and uncertainty (which are the favorite weapons of the Democrat Party) among young voters and really needs to be countered with a strong dose of the truth before the election.


18 posted on 09/21/2004 9:36:29 PM PDT by Route66 (America's Mainstreet)
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To: CPT Clay
Bush needs to address this manner ,I have been hearing this alot from mother's who are going to vote for Kerry because Bush will draft their child!~It couldn't hurt for Bush to make a statement
19 posted on 09/21/2004 9:38:34 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: Paleo Conservative

In truth, the pair of Universal National Service Act bills, S.89 and H.R.163, have been introduced and sponsored by liberal Democrats. S.89 is sponsored by Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-SC), while the companion H.R.163 was introduced by Congressional Black Caucus cofounder and Harlem representative Charlie Rangel (D-NY), along with 14 other Democrats that read like a Who's Who of the Left in Congress:

D Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 1/7/2003 [HI-1] D Rep Brown, Corrine - 1/28/2003 [FL-3] D Rep Christensen, Donna M. - 5/19/2004 [VI] D Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 1/28/2003 [MO-1] D Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 1/7/2003 [MI-14] D Rep Cummings, Elijah E. - 1/28/2003 [MD-7] D Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 1/28/2003 [FL-23] D Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila - 1/28/2003 [TX-18] D Rep Lewis, John - 1/7/2003 [GA-5] D Rep McDermott, Jim - 1/7/2003 [WA-7] D Rep Moran, James P. - 1/28/2003 [VA-8] D Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 1/28/2003 [DC] D Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 1/7/2003 [CA-13] D Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 1/28/2003 [NY-12]


20 posted on 09/21/2004 9:38:40 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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