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Muslim Outrage Over Killings Found Lacking
The Washington Times ^ | September 24, 2004 | Paul Martin

Posted on 09/23/2004 10:45:00 PM PDT by quidnunc

London – The beheadings of two Americans in Iraq this week have been treated as unwelcome developments in the Arab press, but the concern has been more for the image of Muslims than for the victims.

Most organizations continued to cast the outrage as a small part of a wider conflict in which the United States is seen as the prime culprit.

"There has been little sign of the outrage that greeted the kidnapping of two French hostages last month and none of the soul-searching prompted by the … siege" at a school in Beslan, Russia, said Sebastian Usher, who monitors the Arab media for the British Broadcasting Corp.

A survey of the Arabic press in the past few days found that almost all reported the kidnappings of two Americans and a Briton and the Internet posting of statements and videotapes depicting the grisly killings of the two Americans. Appeals for mercy from the family of British hostage Kenneth Bigley also were widely reported.

But in most cases, the stories were quickly overtaken by extensive and colorful reports of bloodshed elsewhere in Iraq or in the Palestinian territories.

Al Jazeera, the most widely watched Arabic television channel, conducted a telephone poll during its top debating program, the Other Direction. In it, 93 percent of viewers said they approved of kidnapping foreigners in Iraq — even though by then, one of the two American hostages had been decapitated.

In Baghdad, law professor Adnan al-Jabbari described the beheadings in a telephone interview as "a distortion of Islam."

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(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hostages; iraq; muslims
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1 posted on 09/23/2004 10:45:01 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

"When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4


2 posted on 09/23/2004 10:48:28 PM PDT by Dec31,1999 (www.protestwarrior.com)
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To: quidnunc

How can the terrorists be distorting Islam when the Quran calls for the "hacking at the necks" of infidels, Mohammad himself ordered beheadings, and the first 150 years of Islamic History was expansion by the sword? Who is trying to rewrite history here?


3 posted on 09/23/2004 10:49:40 PM PDT by Trupolitik
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To: Trupolitik

bump for the "religion of peace".... not....


4 posted on 09/23/2004 10:50:50 PM PDT by antceecee (MSM...time after time after time after time they tell lie after lie after lie after lie.)
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To: quidnunc

That's really disturbing.


5 posted on 09/23/2004 10:51:35 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: quidnunc

Can anyone imagine 93% of Americans or the people of any other civilised country approving the kidnapping and beheading of foreign civilian workers?


6 posted on 09/23/2004 10:54:45 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: quidnunc

I have no empathy or sympathy for the Islam culture. They are very lucky they have determined, patient and strong adults running the WH. Lucky for them because if I were in charge the Dresden strategy would be on my front burner.


7 posted on 09/23/2004 10:56:17 PM PDT by Chgogal
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To: Trupolitik
The same people looking for"moderate Muslims" were probably looking for "peaceful Nazis" sixty years ago.
8 posted on 09/23/2004 10:56:32 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Agreed, and if we are not careful we may enable them further by placing those people in positions of power to accelerate their efforts, as did most of Europe back then.


9 posted on 09/23/2004 11:14:47 PM PDT by xander
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To: GIJoel; Askel5

Here are the things that make you go hmmm.


10 posted on 09/23/2004 11:16:43 PM PDT by MarMema (Sharon is my hero)
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I would LOVE to see Bush announce that we will behead all of the Guantanamo detainees.

Then wait two days while the world erupts in massive protests...marches through the streets of Paris and Munich and New York...

And then reveal that he never intended to behead anyone but just wanted to see whether the rest of the world really gave a damn about beheadings so long as it's not Americans on the chopping block.

11 posted on 09/23/2004 11:17:55 PM PDT by tgiles
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To: quidnunc
Yet, the American public is not ready to support/demand large numbers of targeted assassinations of vocal militant Islamists worldwide.....or the total destruction of militant Islamic combatant strongholds...

In my opinion - ANY Muslim cleric that preaches support for this Jihad - or supports the Jihadists in ANY way, are in fact combatants in this war against terrorism, which is nothing but the tactic selected my militant Islam to achieve their perverted goals..

Open season on Islamic militant lunatics -- coming soon to a town near you..

Semper Fi
12 posted on 09/23/2004 11:19:18 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Dec31,1999
How do you like this guy, saying they are fighting because...

"..if a country doesn't allow the propagation of Islam to its inhabitants in a suitable manner or creates hindrances to this, then the Muslim ruler would be justifying in waging Jihad against this country."

Well this is curious. Last I checked, the US is littered with Mosques and other Islamic centers all across the country as well as Israel which only recently shut them down last year because of the damn suicide bombers running out them every two seconds. Who is stopping the spread of Islam? Who has ever tried to stop it? They all use this damn excuse, but it`s all BS. The fact of the matter is they can`t come up with a good excuse because there is no excuse. The only reason they are doing this is because they cannot stand the fact that parts of this world is inhabited by non-Muslims. The only person I ever heard tell the truth is Osama Bin Laden himself, that he refuses to live in a world of non-Muslims and will not stop until every last non-Muslim in this world is dead.

So I`m asking myself, where are the protests? Everyone thinks this a joke, the "big bad US" it`s all "Bushs fault- he wants oil" but here you got it right from the killers mouth, Osama himself on why they are doing this. The rest of these mutts won`t admit it to it lest the world wise up, so they use this "not allowing Islam to spread" bullsh*t. That`s what this is all about, and anyone who says they are doing this because we are now in Iraq doesn`t know there azz from their elbow because this has been going on wayyyyy long before that. Then you get the excuse "Oh but Israel kicked out the Palestinians... they started fighting first"..Well maybe they should read their history again. As I see it, Israel has been harrassed from day one. Why? Because Muslims don`t like non-Muslims in their land..It`s as simple as that. That`s what this is all about. If Jews were Muslims it would be a different story.

Timeline of Palestinian Israeli History

13 posted on 09/24/2004 12:04:45 AM PDT by Imaverygooddriver ( What`s the difference between Windows XP and John Kerry? Windows XP works once in a while.)
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To: quidnunc

I work with a Palestinian man at the college and he is always very nice to me. Always bringing food and wanting to socialize. BUT he hated "Americans" and America. In fact he claimed to hate almost everything about this country, and he also hated the way we do just about everything. (I wanted to ask--so why are you here?) On the anniversary of Sept 11--he always celebrates the hit that America took--he brings sweets and literally dances around as he works (!). He openly roots for the terrorists in things like these beheadings. And please don't deluge me with e-mails saying to report him to the university--he has gotten a string of complaints (many of them much worse than what I have written here). The university is very committed to providing a safe haven to America haters. They would probably make him a professor if they could.


14 posted on 09/24/2004 12:17:14 AM PDT by OH Swing Voter
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16 posted on 09/24/2004 12:19:57 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: quidnunc
In Baghdad, law professor Adnan al-Jabbari described the beheadings in a telephone interview as "a distortion of Islam."

Really?

17 posted on 09/24/2004 12:28:57 AM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: Tenacious0
In my opinion, there will be no announcement.
There will be no discernible "group" formed..
It will simply happen...

I fully expect to see the level of violence by Muslim radicals elevate to a level in the United States, that they will touch off a reaction they couldn't possibly have anticipated..

Unless the Muslim community shows enough displeasure with the behavior of the lunatics within their midst --- there is no way to spare them the consequences...

Hope I'm wrong....but I doubt it..
I'm an old man, but I expect it will happen in my lifetime.

Semper Fi

18 posted on 09/24/2004 12:40:50 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: quidnunc

In Baghdad, law professor Adnan al-Jabbari described the beheadings in a telephone interview as "a distortion of Islam."



... no professor, more like a 'manifestation' of Islam.


19 posted on 09/24/2004 12:42:47 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: quidnunc

Still struggling with dealing with the reality of Islam. We have let its worst elements triumph for decades, suppressing ever more tightly responsible voices that are only heard in a few coffee shops. Yet something is now moving underneath. Iraq and Afghanistan truly are focal points.


20 posted on 09/24/2004 12:48:46 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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