Posted on 09/24/2004 9:49:29 PM PDT by El Conservador
Pehaps being a Dallas Cowboys' fan may tint my view, but down here we call em the Deadskins...
That way we don't insult any Native Americans.
I am an American Indian. I say that the Indian names and mascots are just fine. O K, that is settled , move along now.
when i buy a team, i'm gonna name it the "shanty irish". with pride.
So i'll give them that one. But being offended by team names such as Indians, Chiefs, Braves, Seminoles etc... is just plain silly.
I use to live in Indiana..i thought Hoosier came from many yrs ago when kids were going up and would ask thier friends.."WHO'S YOU MOM, WHO'S YOU DAD whooosiers
LOL
I'm going to start a private school - the nickname will be the Crusaders and the mascot will be a well-armed creature.
The Indian should be proud of using the name...and your right.it is silly..
I was talking with a Cherokee friend (he's on the rolls). In the course of conversation he referred to someone as Indian, not Cherokee. I was shocked and asked him if he found the term Indian offensive. He laughed and said, "I'm Cherokee. He's indian. I'm not offended. He probably calls me Indian and himself Seminole. We call people Indians if they aren't part of our tribe or even our clan."
At a dfferent time I was talking with a girl in my friend's city. She was working behind the counter at Subway. She told me she was born and raised on a Navajo reservation. She moved away from Arizona to go to the free college in my friend's city. I noticed that if she didn't like an Indian co-worker or a customer, she'd call them apples under her breath. *Apple? What's an apple?* She smiled at my ignorance and said, "Red on the outside, white on the inside." Not satisfied with the reason why, I asked my Cherokee friend why she was calling people apples and he said, "Some just off the reservation think they're purer. They use terms like apple because they think their crap doesn't stink. Apple makes some of us mad but I just laugh and think she's ignorant."
Moral to all the PC hounds: Apparently, if you really want to offend some American Indians (Cherokee in my friend's case) call them apples. And if you want to ban something in your PC crusade start with your beloved liberal NYC's nickname, The Big Apple.
Burbank, Ca.
More often, team names result in identification with the mascot. So that Indians, Redskins, and such names had white, black and Latino folks all claiming to "be" Indians and reciting all of the positive aspects that that association means.
The images people pull from this experience come more from the Boy Scouts than from Hollywood Westerns. So why, would Native Americans want to cut themselves out of this amplification of their importance and values in society? Perhaps the folks behind this movement are wanting to remove Native American values from the American conscious. If you couple this with the assault on the Scouts of America... it really seems like the left really really is pursuing this.
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I don't have a problem with this - I am a little bothered by stereotypical mascots, but the names don't offend me in the least...
That being said, I am proud that many weapoms systems are so named... Apache, Commanche, Tomohawk etc...
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