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Dan Rather's Day of Reckoning: It didn't start with Rathergate. (Highly recommended!)
The Weekly Standard ^ | October 4, 2004 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 09/24/2004 10:14:57 PM PDT by quidnunc

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CBS News airs a report about a Vietnam-era controversy. Almost immediately the report comes under harsh attack, its credibility and essential honesty challenged. There's a huge uproar, complete with calls for a congressional investigation. CBS is compelled to acknowledge certain errors in its handling of the story, though senior officials say pointedly that no one has challenged its basic thrust.

Does this sound familiar? It is, but this is not just a quick-and-dirty recap of the current mess at CBS. For the few CBS News staffers who have been at the network for more than 30 years, the events of the past few weeks must make them feel they're trapped inside Nietzsche's "eternal return." This is the third occasion over the past 32 years in which CBS News has been caught behaving unethically and irresponsibly in the reporting and editing of a hot-button issue involving the United States, the Vietnam war, and the behavior and conduct of senior officials in Washington.

One of those CBS employees with a long memory is Dan Rather, who has been with the network's news division for 42 years. If you want to understand why Rather is being so recalcitrant and finding it so difficult to make a full acknowledgment of his role in perpetrating a colossal journalistic and political fraud — and why he was so adamantly opposed to an internal investigation of his now-infamous story about George W. Bush's National Guard service — you need to understand that Rather saw his network weather two previous and surprisingly similar tempests.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbs; danrather; journalisticfraud; rathergate; seebs
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1 posted on 09/24/2004 10:14:57 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

I posted to another thread that I think Rather is being blackmailed to keep up the charade, lest his complicity in this whoe sham is revealed. His nuts are in a vice in my estimation.


2 posted on 09/24/2004 10:26:18 PM PDT by Cosmo (I'm the pajamahadeen, and I vote!)
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To: Cosmo
"His nuts are in a vice in my estimation."

After forty two years? His ratings are in the crapper and yet CBS hangs on to him. I don't get it but CBS better figure it out.

3 posted on 09/24/2004 10:31:24 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: quidnunc

4 posted on 09/24/2004 10:35:58 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: quidnunc
Wow! Podhoretz does homework. Stirring the pot here boss ;^)

FGS

5 posted on 09/24/2004 11:02:13 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

FGS

6 posted on 09/24/2004 11:09:19 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: quidnunc

7 posted on 09/24/2004 11:18:50 PM PDT by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: blackbart.223
After forty two years? His ratings are in the crapper and yet CBS hangs on to him. I don't get it but CBS better figure it out.

Regardless of what the CBS organizational chart says, Dan Rather is the de facto head of CBS News. Only Andrew Heyward could even challenge him, and Heyward's neck-deep in this scandal as well, so he can't make a move.

On top of that, CBS has been the worst network news organization for many years now. They have few resources and no bench strength, so nobody is there that could take over for Dan and have any near-term positive effect on the ratings, or the newsroom morale.

Their only hope is if Viacom would allow a big payout to lure somebody else to jump ship from another TV network. And considering what a cesspool CBS News is in its current form, I doubt anyone at Viacom is interested in spending the funds.

8 posted on 09/24/2004 11:20:09 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...))
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To: Dont Mention the War
"And considering what a cesspool CBS News is in its current form, I doubt anyone at Viacom is interested in spending the funds."

I guess Viacom is rational enough to avoid a loss of money.

9 posted on 09/24/2004 11:30:52 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: quidnunc

This is John Podhoretz' finest essay--well-researched, irrefutable, full of fire. Magnificent piece of work.


10 posted on 09/24/2004 11:32:22 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: quidnunc

This is a seminal article despositive of the conservative view of liberal media bias and it is destined to become a classic.


11 posted on 09/25/2004 12:10:08 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: quidnunc

12 posted on 09/25/2004 12:26:05 AM PDT by AWestCoaster (The best argument against Democracy is after 5-min. conversation with the average voter ~ Churchill)
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To: quidnunc
Rather's Reckoning
Devil Dan Rather

13 posted on 09/25/2004 12:44:12 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: Cosmo
Did you catch Letterman tonight? "Tonight on the CBS Evening News - 30 Minutes of Horses*&t".
14 posted on 09/25/2004 12:52:33 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: AFPhys; prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; mrs tiggywinkle; ...
It stands even today as a monument in the history of American broadcasting, an award-winning subject of veneration in journalism schools--despite the fact that the producer lied to sources when he assembled the documentary and used some astoundingly dishonest editing to change the meaning of statements by two Pentagon officials caught on film by CBS (one of whom later sued the network to little effect).

Oh my ... I don't know about this ... but yet .. I'm not surprised

15 posted on 09/25/2004 12:53:01 AM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Mo1
Thanks for the oping! The article is absolutely brilliant and enumerates facts not known by the younger FREEPERS.Those of us who lived through those times,as adults,remember the putrescence of cBS news and the rancid fictionmentories.
16 posted on 09/25/2004 1:20:54 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
The article is absolutely brilliant and enumerates facts not known by the younger FREEPERS.

This has all be very educational for me ... I knew there has been bias in the media/press for years ... I just never knew how bad it really was

17 posted on 09/25/2004 1:38:09 AM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Mo1
Being one of those old enough to have lived through ALL of this,though admittedly I was young when that HARVEST OF SHAME POS was aired,I remember it all. And I have hated cBS for ALL of it,for decades!

That's why some of us are SO thrilled and happy and yes,ecstatic over Rathergate. Vengeance is a dish best served cold and since HELL just froze over,dandy Dan's just desserts are icebergs.

18 posted on 09/25/2004 2:00:41 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: quidnunc; Mo1
It is like a piece of yarn that is starting to unravel many of us suspected something was not kosher for years.

When callers would call talk shows or pundits spoke they were careful about not allowing this thought to escape listeners lips!

Many have been so traumatized by anti-ducks labels, now we learn the truth that there was UnAmerican Activities (UA)!

Those who were promoting UA thought it was their right to be able to do so, while at the same time trying to over throw this Great Nation. They coerced many to believed UA's had a right to maintain their livelihood as they continued to commit treason!

People like Rather and Co were called moles, in the early years 40, 50 etc were pockets of UA cells which like germs infiltrated and under mind our pillars and halls of culture!

America I knew it changed during the Assassination of JFK and the under minding of the Vietnam battle, we were not allowed to call it a war for it was not declared a war!

Over night hippie sprang up all across the nation like a choreograph it seem every major city had a seedy place where Tie dye clothes, bears, & weed etc.

This was the beginning of the break down in the way this nation dressed. In the work place, going out, church etc we used to dress accordingly but that all changed throw protest and the standards of life changed to slovenly attire being acceptable.

I am sure it was the work of UA cells who would unite the undiscerning to do their bidding, as UA's strolled around in business cloths and the American citizen was none the wiser!

JFK was killed because he brought the interest rates down to 3% our money was backed by gold, he was concern about our agriculture, he also wanted to bring the troops home.

Now as those who lived through it, can look back, as the yarn continued to unravels how this nation was being duped by UA perception!
19 posted on 09/25/2004 3:02:47 AM PDT by restornu (NYC is the home of Conservative Talk Radio Arbitron rates WABC # ONE in the Nation))
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To: Mo1

Excellent article Mo.


20 posted on 09/25/2004 3:45:02 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (John Kerry, Unfit to be Commander in Chief)
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To: quidnunc

Excellent article. Thanks.


21 posted on 09/25/2004 3:47:19 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: quidnunc
That's a fairly long article, but well worth it. He identifies the beginning and the end of the liberal propaganda machine.
22 posted on 09/25/2004 4:14:06 AM PDT by Jaysun (Taxation WITH representation isn't so hot either.)
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To: quidnunc

This is a must read.


23 posted on 09/25/2004 5:43:06 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: Jenya

HAHAHAHA! Great cartoon, I hadn't seen that one.


24 posted on 09/25/2004 6:07:38 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: quidnunc
Somewhere in heaven, my father is smiling. Until he died 5 years ago, he said exactly what Podhoretz said in this article.

Vindication is sweet, Dad. These two paragraphs were written for you and millions of other who knew the truth:

That's why, even though the precipitating event was a genuine outrage--CBS News's breathless use of forged documents accusing George W. Bush of disobeying a direct order from his National Guard superior in an all-too-obvious effort to sway the opinions of voters only 48 days before the 2004 election--the outrage has been accompanied by a spirit of giddiness and exhilaration almost from the moment the onslaught began.

This is a moment that's been a very long time coming. For four decades now, conservatives have been convinced, with supreme justification, that the institutional, ideological, and cultural biases of the mainstream media represented a danger to the causes in which they believe and the ideas they hold dear. What has happened over the past weeks isn't the beginning of a transformation. It's the culmination of a 40-year-long indictment that has, at long last, led to a slam-dunk conviction.

For 40 years (I'd say 60), CBS has thought itself untouchable. They're not untouchable any more, which is nice, but they also need to be held accountable, not just for RatherGate, but for decades of unconscionable manipulation of the news.

25 posted on 09/25/2004 6:29:27 AM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: ultima ratio; quidnunc

"This is John Podhoretz' finest essay..."

Without a doubt. My thoughts exactly, as I came here to post it and found it on the search.

Quid, you always post the good stuff!


26 posted on 09/25/2004 7:05:26 AM PDT by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: litany_of_lies
an all-too-obvious effort to sway the opinions of voters only 48 days before the 2004 election--the outrage has been accompanied by a spirit of giddiness and exhilaration almost from the moment the onslaught began

giddiness and exhilaration at being able to make up events to suit their mission of taking property that doesn't belong to them

27 posted on 09/25/2004 8:00:59 AM PDT by alrea (Help Wanted: New Jersey Director, Homeland Security. Must be willing performer, and good looking.)
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To: All

Podhoretz is always good the this is one of his best. I watched a movie, "Shattered Glass" on Direct TV the other night. It was about New Republic, and what happened there sometime in the late '90's It is the CBS story all over the place and what happened when obvious stories printed for truth, were totally false. The main guy was a new reporter, not one like Rather and how his stories, brillently written, and not factual, finally took them all out. Excellent in this time of lies and cheating.


28 posted on 09/25/2004 8:04:22 AM PDT by cousair
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To: quidnunc
Thanks

Fabulous article.

29 posted on 09/25/2004 8:41:25 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: Dont Mention the War
Your post is absolutely correct. There have been several disconnects from reality in the reporting of this story. The first, and I think deliberate, incorrect information, is the assumption that Rather was duped. Rather has never been a reporter. He is a political idealogue and a propagandist. He also epitomizes the Godless mind, which does not believe in the concept of truth. His interview, where he stated that Bill Clinton could lie about many things and still be an honest man illustrates this. In the Bush story, he didn't care whether the story was true or not. He didn't care if the documents were forged. He didn't care if Ben Barnes was making up his story, and that Barnes directly contradicted his own earlier statements. He didn't care if Bill Burkett was mentally unbalanced. The only question he had was, "can we get away with it?"

The second point is exactly what you said. People keep talking about Rather getting in trouble with the brass at CBS News. Rather IS CBS News. He had enough power to block Cronkite from doing any on air work after he stepped down from the anchor desk.

I also think Rather has gone senile. For several years now, he's looked about as balanced as Jerry Lewis in the last two hours of the MD marathon. Rather is the same dishonest propagandist he's been for his entire career, but he's lost a step and can't make up stories as well as he used to. Also, of course, the leftists in the old media don't control the agenda anymore. Ten years ago, he would have gotten away with these crappy forgeries, just like Bill Clinton was able to mush the Flowers affair and his summer in the Soviet Union when he was supposedly at Oxford. It ain't happening anymore.

30 posted on 09/25/2004 9:01:13 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (Kerry Campaign: An army of pompous phrases moving across the landscape in search of an idea)
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To: quidnunc
This is one of the best {and historical} articles on this subject I have ever read!
Everyone, please don't miss it!
I read it yesterday at NRO, and happy to see it posted on at least 2 of my favorite sites. {Sorry, I have never taken the time to learn how to post articles...my shame}.
31 posted on 09/25/2004 9:10:08 AM PDT by meema
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To: quidnunc
THE AGNEW SPEECH gave profound voice to the growing sense among non-liberals in the United States that their concerns, their interests, and their views were either not reflected or were under direct attack by the media. The ways in which the media misreported and misrepresented news events and political shifts became a subject of consuming interest in neoconservative and conservative intellectual and journalistic precincts, from Commentary and the pre-Clinton American Spectator to National Review and Human Events.

Indeed. Watching "news" organizations craft lies and boldly present them as "facts" is endlessly fascinating, appalling, breathtaking, infuriating and frustrating.

Thank God for the internet and talk radio. The voices that despise Fox (for pete's sake!) and talk radio despise debate, differing opinions, and in the end, they despise truth.

32 posted on 09/25/2004 9:53:36 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: ForGod'sSake

This is some stunning article giving historical perspective.

I'm bookmarking it.

Wow is right.


33 posted on 09/25/2004 9:56:51 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Dan Rather's eternal return ends here with the collapse of his reputation and the collapse of the 20th-century American news industry in which he was one of the last grand potentates. And it is a bleak end, unless he can console himself with the thought that he didn't fail to live up to the standards of his predecessors. He followed perfectly in their footsteps.

Highlighting from the article.

34 posted on 09/25/2004 10:02:09 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Mo1

Stunning


35 posted on 09/25/2004 10:04:49 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Richard Kimball
The first, and I think deliberate, incorrect information, is the assumption that Rather was duped.

Exactly.

36 posted on 09/25/2004 10:09:26 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: cyncooper; nopardons
Stunning

That it is .. as I was mentioning to nopardons, I knew of their bias .. I just didn't know how bad it was .. and I have a feeling it is still a lot worse

The reason why they elite media is so freaked out about about sites like FR is because those who have known for years are educating those like myself who were too young back then to know what really happen

37 posted on 09/25/2004 10:16:31 AM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: quidnunc; WKB; dixiechick2000; onyx; bourbon

MUST read BUMP...


38 posted on 09/25/2004 10:28:29 AM PDT by Magnolia (Pennies a day help keep Liberals at bay.....become a monthly donor!)
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To: Jenya

ROFL!!


39 posted on 09/25/2004 10:44:26 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: nathanbedford

I think that before the conservatives get too excited over the debacle at CBS, they better consider the ramifications of the end product of this investigation. A possible return to the Fairness in Media Doctrine, which the left is trying to use to limit Scaife, Rush and other conservative media personalities.


40 posted on 09/25/2004 10:46:21 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

I have no doubt that such censorship is their goal but I think Rush, for example, is just too deeply imbedded in our culture for us to tolerate such a raid on the first amendment. If the politicians on our side could not pull the plug on funding Sesame Street, imagine the firestorm if the libs went after Rush.

But you are right, the fairness doctrine is a spectre ever just over the horizon.


41 posted on 09/25/2004 11:00:14 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: nathanbedford

They are already attacking Rush, by demanding that he be taken off the FARTS (Federal Armed Forces Radio). They are trying to limit Scaife too, but have been unsuccessful so far. The problem is that the leftists see them selves as moderates, and only the right as radical. This issue could very well be an ultimate pyhrric victory, a true case for being careful what you ask for.


42 posted on 09/25/2004 11:19:08 AM PDT by Eva
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To: quidnunc

I was really surprised that there wasn't a mention of CBS'd slanderous story "The Wall Within" in 1988.


43 posted on 09/25/2004 11:24:21 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Magnolia; onyx; dixiechick2000; bourbon; wardaddy

Poor Dan
Can't understand
Why his plan
to bring down The Man
Gets so out of hand
and **it always hit's the fan.


44 posted on 09/25/2004 11:26:24 AM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB; Magnolia; bourbon; wardaddy; onyx

ROTFLOL!

Most excellent, WKB!
There's nothing more I can add. ;o)

Thanks, Magnolia!


45 posted on 09/25/2004 11:32:59 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: WKB


You're a man of many talents.


47 posted on 09/25/2004 11:40:48 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: blackbart.223
His ratings are in the crapper and yet CBS hangs on to him. I don't get it but CBS better figure it out.

I've been away from Free Republic for over a month now, and I don't know for certain what people here are saying about the Rathergate thing.

Has it ever occurred to anyone here that this entire fiasco has been orchestrated by Hillary Clinton and her henchmen? I can think of no greater cause for Mary Mapes and Dan Rather to give their lives and careers to than in getting Hillary in the White House in 2008.

I also wonder about the Swift Boat ads? Could they be a part of Hillary's scheme to make sure Kerry loses, so she'll have free access to the Democrat nomination in 2008?

48 posted on 09/25/2004 11:41:24 AM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: onyx

You're a man of many talents.


I know


49 posted on 09/25/2004 11:47:36 AM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB

:)


50 posted on 09/25/2004 11:49:02 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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