Skip to comments.The Case Against Socialized Medicine
Posted on 09/28/2004 1:19:47 PM PDT by johnnyb325
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Ha ha. What is DU?
Do you get food and water for free and on demand?
"Because his need now comes second to the people who dont pay taxes"
Huh? Why is that? Here in socialized Spain, I, a full time worker, get the exact same medical service as a pensioner.
What do you mean?
No, but nobody gets health care for free, either. We all pay for it sooner or later.
OK, so you can argue that there are slackers who get a free ride on the nationalized system, but they're the tiny exception.
its for Dumb@$$ Underachievers. You have about as much chance of converting anyone here as a snowballs chance in Iraq, so just 'shove it' on back to loserville where you belong.
Socialized medicine CANNOT be a "right" because nobody has the right to someone else's time. Doctors cannot be forced to treat any patient in a free society, and that is exactly what the socialized medicine crowd thinks is legit. Sort of an extension of the "right to counsel".
Not to mention, when there are no profits to be made by being a doctor, what are we going to be left with in the operating rooms?
As I'm sure even Kerry knows, though he'll never admit it, the biggest problem facing our medical system is the frivolous lawsuits, like the ones exploited by John (there are two Americas, and I've been in both) Edwards.
If you don't know what I mean then you are out of your league and dont understand the US or its policies. If you're in spain you are terrorist appeasers and you have problems of your own...you should fix yours before you come and give your socialist bull$h!t opinions here. buh bye!
We really should be able to have intelligent debates without name-calling.
You're right of course, I'm getting carried away by the posts of this person whose country has capitulated to terrorsits, which is proven to be the worst way to possibly deal with them. I have no repect for that and I don't care for thier views either, which are not realistic to our situation, but which they seem to think we should adopt. I dont care to debate or discuss with terrorist appeasers but if you do then thats your call.
Churches have been taking care of those in need for 2,000 years. Maybe it's time the left did the same? Or are they incapable of doing anything without the government holding their hand?
What's wrong with you? I'm here to DEBATE with people who have different opinions to my own. I want to understand the other side, while providing my own opinions. Leave the insults out of it, or leave me alone if you can't be civil.
Overall, I find everyone here to be thoughtful and courteous. Shame about you so far, libs_kma.
And everyone: pardon my sarcastic username. It would have been much more appropriate on a knee-jerk, reactionary site than on a rational, welcoming one like this has been so far.
And that's a problem, because...? (Obviously, the completely pure form of any economic or political system is impossible to achieve and is probably undesirable.)
Cute screen name, btw. ;)
And when there are no profits to be made by being a teacher, what are we going to be left with in the classroom?
In Spain, people study to be a doctor because they *want* to be a doctor. The pay is decent, but nothing like it is in the US.
Totally false. Way back when I was in school, I used to work part-time in an ER on the NYC border and the number of people who either came in to the ER with no insurance, as well as those with Medicaid who go to the ER with every fever, sore throat and fart, was staggering.
That not only affected the hospital's survival (they were eventually "absorbed" by a large corporation -- just like that 80s classic TV show St. Elsewhere), but also the doctors who stopped accepting new patients via the ER, as they were getting stiffed left and right.
The point is that if you make health care a free ride for everyone, it'll be a *lot* more than the slackers who'll take advantage.
Liberal scum has contributed more to the discussion here than you have.
Under what scenario would there be no profit in teaching? As long as education is important, people will be willing to pay for it.
The terrorist discussion doesn't belong here. If you like, I'll be happy to take it up with you in another thread.
An old story that used o make the rounds about socialised medicine in the U.S.S.R. was that there were no abortions; a wag quipped, "That's because there's a 10-month wait."
Ok liberal scum. I'll stop the name calling, but surely, liberal scum, you dont mind that I call you liberal scum do you? :) Well liberal scum, its been intersting. have a nice day liberal scum. I'll probably not discuss anything with you again liberal scum. I just don't wish to make it a habit to talk to liberal scum. Nothing personal you understand :)
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