ok shakeup. I'm getting over my initial anger now. But I'd still rather refer to you as liberal scum if you'll be so kind as to indulge me that favor.
It is not intended to be the DU of the right, and, in my opinion (YMMV) you aren't doing a good job of holding up the side.
Shakeup is arguing his points as well as anything that rests on false premises can be argued, try to answer him back.
Feel free. I'll read a wink into it every time you do. ;-)
Anyway, I'm happy to discuss health care if you are.