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To: SmellsLikeOwen; sugarplumsweety
Why should Bush have to go out there and dispel all of this crap?

Good rant Smells...and Welcome to FreeRepublic, SP sweety.

The plain facts are these...Republicans have always had to go over the heads of the media to talk to the public. Remember Reagan? While Bill Clinton contaminated our TV's with announcements about ingrown toe nails--the MSM wouldn't touch the Monica story until Drudge broke it-- Bush couldn't even get coverage for a major policy speech at AEI on the eve of going to war!

FreeRepublic exists because this has been the unchallenged status quo until the age of the internet. You and I are the troops!! Get out there, make some noise.

Like a stopped clock--Algore was actually right on one occasion when he talked about the "echo chamber" and the "zeitgeist". How else will the GOP get the message out? Al just forgot to mention the their side has the media bullhorns trying to drown us out.

Both sides manipulate.

This "man on the street" thing is so old it is getting worn out. Another example can be found at NPR with their interviews with "undecided swing voters" who only donate to democrats.

71 posted on 09/29/2004 6:06:35 AM PDT by Dutchgirl (Burma shave!)
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To: Dutchgirl
FreeRepublic exists because this has been the unchallenged status quo until the age of the internet. You and I are the troops!! Get out there, make some noise.

Does this mean that FreeRepublic is gonna start a draft?

Whenever I hear anything about "Bush wanting to secretly restart" the draft, I've asked if the speaker knows if there is any legislation about reinstatement. The usual reply is "Don't know for sure." Then I hit 'em with the evidence about Rangels' political charade.

It gets the 18 to 26 year olds' attention.

74 posted on 09/29/2004 6:13:52 AM PDT by woofer
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To: Dutchgirl
Though I agree with most of that, I'm not letting our people off the hook so easily.

Reagan was basically by himself anyway. Dims had the House and Senate, not only then but the prior 40 yrs as well. Reagan had everything against him and he still got the message through and won a lot of people over. But then again, he WAS Ronald Reagan and we can't expect Bush or any other Republican or Republican President to be President Reagan.

Yes, it's been an uphill battle for Conservatives, and will continue to be, but times are changing. Like you referred to in you post, the "new media" gained ground and became a player because of Bill Clinton and the bias in MSM. Maybe Gore wasn't so far off in judging his roll in the invention of the net? hehe But, now we do have a FreeRepublic, we do have a Drudge Report, we do have a Newsmax, we do have a Fox News Channel, but we still have to get better at using them! We have to get much better and that is what my frustration is about.

Yeah, we can all agree that if Monica had been a Bush thing the MSM would have been on it like flys on stink, even now after we've taken up some of the slack in it's reporting. But, do you think we would have had the SeeBS situation 10 years ago? Remember George H. W. Bush and his round with Rather? This is another sign that we have made some ground. I think the fight is even greater now because they're starting to see the dust cloud approaching them from behind, and they've panicked into an all out sprint to keep their power and influence.

We aren't where we need to be yet, but we are closer than we were even as few as 5 years ago. But, when members of our party in Washington refuse to stand up and carry the ball, they allow the dims to come out and make the same false claims they've been making for years. My point is, people like "us" have made a difference and put our people in Washington in a better position to "use" the media, both "new" and MS, to put out their/our agenda! But it's not happening, they keep fumbling in the locker room! At least get it on the freakin' field first so that maybe someone else can jump on it! YES, we ARE the real troops in this and I think we HAVE been making a lot of noise. But, and I can only speak for myself, last I checked I didn't have access to a camera that would blast my message around the nation. I disagree that they can't get a message out. Let us pretend....let us dream.....

Trent Lott walks out on the lawn and says, "I want to make an important announcement about a military draft and what it will mean to our nation and it's youth"....

You really think Fox News wouldn't cover that? CNN would be "forced" to cover it. They have to learn to use what "we" have given them. He doesn't come out and say I want to dispute the dims about the lies and rumors they're spreading of a nonexistent plan for a draft. That probably wouldn't get him anywhere but the Drudge Report. He doesn't lie to them, but he doesn't blow his complete message prior to addressing the issue either. You were talking about "manipulation", that's what I'm talking about!!

Do we really want to risk this election simply because we sat back, did nothing, and let them spread this draft rumor? Yeah, some of us laugh at the desperation we see coming from the left, but there are some 18 year old kids who aren't laughing and just might be believing. Of all the lies they've tossed out there I think this is one we should definitely not underestimate, neglect, or misinterpret, of it's importance or possible damage. We're at war, so it's natural that some of the "misinformed" will believe it and it's extremely plausible that those "misinformed" will be scared voters at the polls. This is one of many lies that needs to be knocked down!

I'm definitely in agreement with your reply. I'm just not letting anyone off the hook. I've watched too many people drop their stones at the city limit signs as they walk into Washington and quite honestly I'm getting sick of it. It's especially frustrating when I look back on what "we", the troops, have accomplished and given them. They wanted the House, we gave it to them. They wanted the Senate, we gave it to them. "We" paved them a freakin' highway, and they keep walking on the sidewalk??? Is this road as wide as it needs to be? No, but it's a nice start! Not using it just allows the grass to grow back over it. Like I said, they should be out defending President Bush like it's their last breath! Do they honestly think they'll get anything accomplished with Kerry? Do they honestly think we can keep them there if they don't accomplish the things they've been sent there to do? I'm not in the business of harping on Conservatives, and I know there are many who are fighting and pushing the envelope. But, there are also many that aren't and they have got to step up! If they don't think they can get a message out on CNN, MAKE it a CAUSE to get a message out on CNN! Manipulate the situation and the media and force it out! We've made huge strides, but that doesn't mean stop marching! Assuming it's a hopeless situation is assuming defeat! It's an age old saying but still true,...You don't wait for opportunity, you create it! "We've" created opportunity for them so I'm not sure what they're waiting on???? This latest crap coming from the dims will amount to "nothing" compared to the attacks that will be coming out in the approaching days. Desperate people don't care how they change their situation, just as long as they do so! Though this President is Rock Solid,...Strength is in numbers, and is not built by leaving one man on his own to fight from the center of a dart board! It's time to do battle! It's time to strap it on! It's time to become Warriors!!! It's NOT time to cower in the corner or become passive! K, I'm done.

Cheers!
99 posted on 09/29/2004 2:20:29 PM PDT by SmellsLikeOwen
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