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House votes to make oak the national tree
AP ^ | Tuesday, September 28, 2004

Posted on 09/29/2004 6:56:21 AM PDT by presidio9

The national bird, the bald eagle, will have a national tree, the oak, to alight on if legislation passed Tuesday by the House makes its way through Congress and is signed by the president.

The oak tree, said Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Virginia, is present in all 50 states and "represents the fundamental characteristics of this great nation: strength, endurance and beauty."

Goodlatte, in a statement, said the oak, in addition to being a highly prized material for furniture and flooring, has played a vital role in the nation's history.

He recalled how Andrew Jackson took shelter under Louisiana's Sunnybrook Oaks on his way to the Battle of New Orleans and how the USS Constitution, "Old Ironsides," repelled British cannonballs with its oak hull.

He also cited a 2001 online survey taken by the National Arbor Day Foundation, which the oak won over 20 other national tree candidates. The oak was the favorite among some 100,000 of the 444,000 votes cast. In second place was the redwood with 80,000 votes, followed by the dogwood, maple and pine.

The United States already has a national flower, the rose. The bald eagle was officially adopted as the emblem of the United States in 1787 despite the opposition of Ben Franklin, who preferred the turkey.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: andnowthelarch; goodlatte; meaninglesstripe; moneywasting; oak; thelarch; timewasting; weepingchestnut
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1 posted on 09/29/2004 6:56:22 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

How stupid. Clearly this man has too much time on his hands.


2 posted on 09/29/2004 6:57:44 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: presidio9

And we thought the Congress was wasting our money!!


3 posted on 09/29/2004 6:57:53 AM PDT by cwiz24
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To: presidio9

And we thought the Congress was wasting our money!


4 posted on 09/29/2004 6:58:48 AM PDT by cwiz24
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To: presidio9

Which Oak? Red, Pin, Liveoak?


5 posted on 09/29/2004 6:59:04 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: cwiz24

You all can just call me "Two Times".


6 posted on 09/29/2004 6:59:43 AM PDT by cwiz24
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To: Little Pig

Southern Live Oak of course.


7 posted on 09/29/2004 7:00:08 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Member of 3rd Pajamahadeen Division, 2nd Boxer Shorts Brigade, 4th Bunny Slipper Battalion)
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To: cwiz24

NNNNobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!


8 posted on 09/29/2004 7:00:27 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

Could have been worse. They could have voted Al Gore our national tree.


9 posted on 09/29/2004 7:00:40 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Don't tell my mother I work for CBS. She thinks I'm a towel boy at a bordello.)
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To: presidio9

Official tree (and drink) of the Kerry Campaign: Hemlock.


10 posted on 09/29/2004 7:01:18 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Didn't Al Gore invent the oak?


11 posted on 09/29/2004 7:01:58 AM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (al-Qa'ida terrorists are cowards who hide behind masks and decapitate helpless victims.)
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To: presidio9

What about a cherry tree? George Washington couldn't lie about it. Or apple trees for Johnny Appleseed.


12 posted on 09/29/2004 7:02:47 AM PDT by Fatalis
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To: Little Pig

Chestnut Oak, Water Oak, White Oak?


13 posted on 09/29/2004 7:04:36 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Pajamamama)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

The way he's looking these days, he certainly didn't invent Slim-Fast...


14 posted on 09/29/2004 7:04:57 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Don't tell my mother I work for CBS. She thinks I'm a towel boy at a bordello.)
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To: presidio9

I've got about 16 oaks I'd like to donate to the national cause. Will Congress send me someone to cut these menaces down?

leaves...acres...branches...hurricane food...


15 posted on 09/29/2004 7:05:08 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This Space Available.)
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To: presidio9

Could the national plant be hemp? what next????


16 posted on 09/29/2004 7:05:36 AM PDT by buffyt (You don't create terrorists by fighting back. You defeat the terrorists by fighting back. ~GWBush~)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker
I thought ALGORE WAS the national tree!.....
17 posted on 09/29/2004 7:06:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: presidio9
Don't these congressmen have anything better to do with their time, like try to cut taxes, or come up with solutions for health care.
18 posted on 09/29/2004 7:07:59 AM PDT by cpprfld (Who said accountants are boring?)
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To: presidio9

I can recognize the larch from a very long distance. Monty Python lives!


19 posted on 09/29/2004 7:08:11 AM PDT by Goldwater4ever (Vote early, vote often... for Bush)
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To: presidio9

DAMN! It's a fix I tell you a fix!

I have been lobbying so hard for Balsam Fir until those lying, bribing OAK people came in and stole it with their fancy dinners and sexy escorts.

I'm going to appeal! This is not fair and not right for America. Balsam Fir has more resin than any other fir variety! Does that mean nothing to America?


20 posted on 09/29/2004 7:08:49 AM PDT by Chewbacco (Well, if ribbons and medals are identical, then by his own admission he did throw away his medals!!)
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To: presidio9

If this happens, will oaks be protected, as eagles are now? No more firewood, furniture, hardwood floors? Huge fines for cutting one down?


21 posted on 09/29/2004 7:08:49 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Proud to live in Utah - a WHOLE state.)
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To: presidio9

Oak sure makes good furniture!


22 posted on 09/29/2004 7:12:14 AM PDT by crv16
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To: All
If you have an oak tree that you're thinking of getting rid of, I suggest you do it now!!

With all the important stuff going on, why do our damn politicians waste out time and money on crap like this.

How about making English the National Language?? You might offend someone?? Too bad!! I'm sick of tired of catering to people who are too lazy to do what our early immigrants did. NO ONE ever made them give up their native tongue. They just had enough common sense to know that "We can understand and help each other better if we're all speaking the same language".

23 posted on 09/29/2004 7:12:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: presidio9

OTOH, the Pine tree figured strongly in early American history. The trunks of the large, straight pine trees found in New England and elsewhere were highly prized by the British Navy for masts and spars, to the extent that British agents would mark trees for this use and the colonists were forbidden to cut them down for their own use. Pine trees were also the source of tar and turpentine, two of the first major foreign exports of the American colonies (which, of course, they could only export to the mother country, for controlled prices). Colonists from the Massachusetts Bay and Plimoth Plantation colony fought the British under the Pine Tree flag. Pines and spruces still form the major building material for American homes today; oak generally only plays a minor role (moulding and furnishings) in such construction. This country depends a lot more on pine trees than it does on oaks.


24 posted on 09/29/2004 7:12:22 AM PDT by RonF
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To: T Minus Four

And what about the acorns man . . . don't forget the acorns.


25 posted on 09/29/2004 7:13:23 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: presidio9

I neglected to give oak credit for flooring; my mistake. But that's only in homes with hardwood floors. And even if you do have hardwood floors, there's still more pine than oak in your house.


26 posted on 09/29/2004 7:13:36 AM PDT by RonF
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To: presidio9

Erm, its the English national tree. Hearts of oak and all that.


27 posted on 09/29/2004 7:15:07 AM PDT by Killing Time
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To: All

The Rose is also the National Flower of Iraq, except in Iraq, it's probably a code for centrifuge. (Remember the find in Iraq in the guy's garden?)


28 posted on 09/29/2004 7:15:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: presidio9

They better do it quickly. Phytophthora ramorum, a microscopic water mold better known as Sudden Oak Death has already killed tens of thousands of Ca. hardwoods and ornamentals.
It has now been found on the east coast as well.


29 posted on 09/29/2004 7:15:54 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: presidio9

Great. Maybe next they'll vote on designating an official language.

PS: Maybe this should wait until after the elections- If Kerry wins, we might want to change our national tree to the pussy willow.


30 posted on 09/29/2004 7:16:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Yeah, there could be a fine for possession of acorns.


31 posted on 09/29/2004 7:16:51 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Proud to live in Utah - a WHOLE state.)
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To: presidio9

If you poison the hard wood, we will burn the pine.

From the logger wars in East Texas.


32 posted on 09/29/2004 7:17:17 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rather calls Saddam "Mister President" and calls President Bush "bush")
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To: Mamzelle

White Oak gets my vote.


33 posted on 09/29/2004 7:19:16 AM PDT by stevio (The Clinton '94 gun ban sunset! WooHoo!)
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To: ClintonBeGone

I think Congress should spend their time on declaring that the Rio Grande is a sovereign national border.

...And that English is the official language of America.


34 posted on 09/29/2004 7:21:16 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: presidio9

Damn, there goes the cost of oak cabinets.


35 posted on 09/29/2004 7:22:42 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: presidio9

Now all they need to do is declare BBQ the national food. Since Live oak is best used for smoking brisket.

Ohhh Yeahhh Baaaby.


36 posted on 09/29/2004 7:26:42 AM PDT by SycoDon
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To: SycoDon

Texans for brisket!


37 posted on 09/29/2004 7:32:30 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: presidio9

Nothing against oaks, but they should have made it the sequoia b/c they're already protected. No extra law needed.


38 posted on 09/29/2004 7:41:12 AM PDT by tx4guns (Guns don't murder people; stupid people murder people.)
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To: Chewbacco

The Trees

There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade.

There is trouble in the forest,
And the creatures all have fled,
As the maples scream "Oppression!"
And the oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.


39 posted on 09/29/2004 8:10:31 AM PDT by mallardx
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To: presidio9
Making the Oak Tree the National Tree is a great idea. It is strong and beautiful (most of the time - except when the leaves start falling - i just wish all the leaves would fall off when they turned brown).
41 posted on 09/29/2004 8:21:25 AM PDT by Core_Conservative (The Democratic Party is the Fraternal Order of Excretory Sphincters.)
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To: Red Badger

AlGore invented the idea of having a national tree, didn't he?


42 posted on 09/29/2004 8:25:30 AM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (al-Qa'ida terrorists are cowards who hide behind masks and decapitate helpless victims.)
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To: mallardx

I understand, there is a satire similar to this about school children in California...

If the ballerina dances too well she is forced to wear shackles...

If the runner runs too well he must carry weights...

Libs do all of this in the name of "fairness".

I cant remember the title but if I do, I'll mail it to you.

Cheers


43 posted on 09/29/2004 9:00:09 AM PDT by Chewbacco (Well, if ribbons and medals are identical, then by his own admission he did throw away his medals!!)
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To: presidio9
"represents the fundamental characteristics of this great nation: strength, endurance and beauty."

Yeah...but it's got small nuts that fall off and get eaten by rodents. Where's the strength in that? I want a tree with some real cajones.

44 posted on 09/29/2004 10:10:19 AM PDT by Fredgoblu
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To: Sacajaweau
If you have an oak tree that you're thinking of getting rid of, I suggest you do it now!!

Hehe...this sentiment would be funny, if it weren't true.

Our business is located in a city that's got a "woodlands preservation ordinance" that says you need a vote of the city council if you want to cut down a "protected" tree bigger than 6" dbh (that's diameter at breast height if you wondered). The only trees that aren't "protected" are willows and poplars.

I told the planning administrator that their rules would force us to adopt one of two new landscaping strategies: plant 2" trees and then make sure to cut them down when they got to 5"; or, plant only willows or poplars, so that we could remove them whenever we wanted. She thought I was joking.

45 posted on 09/29/2004 10:20:51 AM PDT by Fredgoblu
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To: Mamzelle
I vote for Quercus alba (White Oak). Strong, sturdy, provides food and cover for wildlife ... and provides a damn fine, durable and beautiful material for woodworking.
46 posted on 09/29/2004 10:42:07 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I think the White Oak, too.


47 posted on 09/29/2004 10:54:08 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Pajamamama)
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To: presidio9

I feel much safer already knowing Congress is on the job.....


48 posted on 09/29/2004 11:05:06 AM PDT by NRA1995 (John Kerry goes for a tan and comes out as Agent Orange)
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To: presidio9
The oak tree, said Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Virginia, is present in all 50 states...

I didn't know we had oak trees in Hawaii. Someone needs to point them out to me...

49 posted on 09/29/2004 11:06:16 AM PDT by etcetera (All men are endowed by their creator with the inalienable right to shoot back.)
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To: presidio9

Ahhhh,
Southern Live Oaks,
Ancient, strong, covered in spanish moss...

The most beautiful trees on earth.


50 posted on 09/29/2004 11:08:28 AM PDT by najida (Sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I am.)
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