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Son of GOP President Supports Kerry (BARF-ALERT)
Associated Press (by way of Yahoo! News) ^ | September 29, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/29/2004 6:47:11 PM PDT by Jacob Kell

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To: fortheDeclaration
In those days,the political candidate was actually chosen AT THE CONVENTION. Ergo, Ike stole NOTHING,the powers that be,withing the GOP wanted Ike to be the candidate,And again,NO,IKE DID NOT "STEAL" THE NOMINATION.

Thomas Dewey was a Conservative?

The Conservative wing of the GOP "was the dominant part of the Party"? IN THE 1940s and 1950s? SINCE WHEN ? According to WHOM...you?

I don't drink anything containing caffeine and perhaps before you keep looking for that mote in my eye,you sholuld remove that forest of trees from your own! And factual,non-revisionist history is your friend....LEARN SOME! ;^)

61 posted on 09/29/2004 11:21:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
In those days,the political candidate was actually chosen AT THE CONVENTION. Ergo, Ike stole NOTHING,the powers that be,withing the GOP wanted Ike to be the candidate,And again,NO,IKE DID NOT "STEAL" THE NOMINATION.

They were chosen at the convention after running in the primaries. They had to win delegates and Ike was a write in candidate in NH where he beat Taft.

Thomas Dewey was a Conservative?

Who is talking about Dewey?

Dewey was a Rockafeller Republican (RINO).

The conservatives were gaing control of the Party (as they did with Goldwater and Reagan), but Ike by-passed the grassroot conservative wing that supported Taft and got nominated instead.

The Conservative wing of the GOP "was the dominant part of the Party"? IN THE 1940s and 1950s? SINCE WHEN ? According to WHOM...you?

It was becoming so under Taft (we had control of the Congress in 1948-1950 and there was a strong anti-Commnunist element moving it.

That conservative movement was setback by Ike's win and did not reappear until Goldwater in 1960 and then became the dominant force under Reagan in 1980 (after battling with Ford and Rockerfeller in 1976)

Any other posters out there who know the GOP political history of the last 50 years please feel free to jump in with any comments or criticism's

I don't drink anything containing caffeine and perhaps before you keep looking for that mote in my eye,you sholuld remove that forest of trees from your own! And factual,non-revisionist history is your friend....LEARN SOME! ;^)

Well if it isn't caffine then it must be your own rotten disposition.

62 posted on 09/29/2004 11:51:25 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: nopardons
This is from a history I checked online.

As another presidential election approached, Republican Party leaders who supported NATO came to Eisenhower to ask him to run. The party had lost five presidential elections in a row and was now dominated by conservative Senator Robert A. Taft of Ohio, an isolationist who had voted against NATO.

They feared that Taft would get the nomination and lose the election to President Truman—or, if he won, take the United States out of NATO. Truman strongly supported NATO, but his domestic policies were much too liberal for Eisenhower. Eisenhower became convinced that he had a duty to serve.

In April 1952 Eisenhower announced that he would seek the Republican nomination. A bitter fight for the votes of delegates to the party’s national convention ensued between moderates who supported Eisenhower and conservatives who wanted Taft.

Although Eisenhower easily won a majority in state primary elections, the party in most states still selected convention delegates in meetings called caucuses.

Taft supporters controlled the caucuses, and it seemed he would get a majority of the delegates.

At the convention in Chicago, it appeared that 35 of California’s 70 delegates would go to Taft. However, Richard M. Nixon, that state’s junior senator, prevented that and thereby ensured Eisenhower’s nomination. Nixon’s reward was a spot on the ticket as candidate for vice president.

It looks like Ike stole the nomination to me! LOL!

63 posted on 09/29/2004 11:58:33 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
So what...write-ins were and are legal.

I was,I brought up Thomas Dewey to make a point,which obviously just whizzed right over your head.

There was no such thing as a "Rockefeller Republican" when Thomas Dewey was 1)an office holder 2)a presidential candidate.And I doubt you understand that term either.

First you claimed that the "right wing of the party had control...." and now you claim that they "were gaining control". Soooooooooo,,,which is it? Next you'll say that well,they wanted control,or those nasty "others",would not allow them control?

Look...we've done this dance before,on another thread, regarding another topic.I think that you just want attention, ANY KIND OF ATTENTION and I'm not interested in this game.You bait and hurl personal attacks,because I refute you and you have nothing of any substance with which to attempt to refute my refutation.

Try growing up and try to be factual,instead of posting things that are untrue. :-)

64 posted on 09/30/2004 12:03:59 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
So what...write-ins were and are legal. I was,I brought up Thomas Dewey to make a point,which obviously just whizzed right over your head. There was no such thing as a "Rockefeller Republican" when Thomas Dewey was 1)an office holder 2)a presidential candidate.And I doubt you understand that term either. First you claimed that the "right wing of the party had control...." and now you claim that they "were gaining control". Soooooooooo,,,which is it? Next you'll say that well,they wanted control,or those nasty "others",would not allow them control? Look...we've done this dance before,on another thread, regarding another topic.I think that you just want attention, ANY KIND OF ATTENTION and I'm not interested in this game.You bait and hurl personal attacks,because I refute you and you have nothing of any substance with which to attempt to refute my refutation.

Based on what the facts are, Taft (the conservative) had the votes to win the nomination.

Ike, the 'moderate' made sure that those votes did not get to Taft and rewarded the one who prevented it, Nixon.

I did not say that Ike did anything illegal, but it was certainly a bit underhanded.

We will let the readers of the posts decide which one of us is making sense and giving facts and who is just ranting and raving.

65 posted on 09/30/2004 12:10:24 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration

And WHO highjacked yet another thread. Hint,hint...it waas you,pet.


66 posted on 09/30/2004 12:12:37 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
And WHO highjacked yet another thread. Hint,hint...it waas you,pet

The thread was on Iké's son and why he went so far left.

Discussing his father's own political beliefs are legimate to understanding why the son went awry.

'pet'?

You get crazier with every post!

67 posted on 09/30/2004 12:26:10 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: nopardons
Nixon tried to set up Tricia,Julie's older sister up with Prince Charles.

He wanted to set his own daughter up with an inbred German? What is wrong with him?

68 posted on 09/30/2004 12:30:38 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Yes and I think that it was the "PRINCE" thing.:-)


69 posted on 09/30/2004 1:09:52 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jacob Kell

When the apple fell from the tree, it landed on its head.


70 posted on 09/30/2004 1:10:20 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Jacob Kell

So he thinks we should cut and run from the terrorists huh??


72 posted on 09/30/2004 10:27:15 AM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: nopardons

I guess so, that just seems so unamerican to me.


73 posted on 10/01/2004 12:06:52 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It is what it was.I just posted a fact.


74 posted on 10/01/2004 12:09:57 AM PDT by nopardons
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I know. I guess being a citizen wasn't good enough doe Nixon.


75 posted on 10/01/2004 12:33:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I'm not a mind reader and I have no idea as to why Nixon did it;however,it wasn't the first time a president tried to set up his daughter with someone "famous".


76 posted on 10/01/2004 12:38:14 AM PDT by nopardons
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