Posted on 09/29/2004 7:12:52 PM PDT by watchout
Human Rights Campaign
Absolute insanity run amok -- literally.
Sanctioning these blatant civil rights violations will lead to bogus accusations and gay vendettas, which are guaranteed to lead us back to the Wild West or CWII.
Human Rights Commission in very state now. just look in your state phone book
Well, I never actually chose. And I'm quite sure I'd chose abstinence over the alternative.
You sure? I don't really feel like I chose.
How sure are you?
On the question of choice, it must be noted that all sex but being the victim of rape is voluntary and thus every sexual act involves a conscious choice. A person's inclination toward a form of sexual conduct may not, for any number of reasons, be consciously chosen, but the mere existence of desire does not justify the act. To accept otherwise would be to validate adultery, incest and pedophilia. Society has the right to require people to suppress harmful desires, even if it is difficult for them to do so.
Since the "gay" movement can't prove it, the assertion that homosexuals are "born that way" remains nothing but a hypothesis: one which provides no justification for abandoning long-standing, experience-tested social policies. Remember, society doesn't have to prove that homosexuality is not innate. "Gay" activists are the ones attempting to change things and the burden of proof is theirs.
Nevertheless, there is plenty of evidence that homosexuality is not innate. There is a very considerable body of testimony from tens of thousands of men and women who once lived as homosexuals. These ex-"gays" have renounced their former lifestyles and many have become heterosexual in self-identification and desire, while others have stopped at the point of comfort with their own gender and freedom from same-sex desires. The "gay" movement's challenge to former homosexuals to, in essence, prove they aren't still innately "gay" is the height of absurdity since homosexual immutability was never proven in the first place.
Why is the question of immutability so important? Because if homosexuality is not innate, it must be acquired. And if it can be acquired, we dare not allow homosexuality to be legitimized to our children. If there remains any shadow of doubt as to the cause of homosexuality, we must err on the side of protecting our children. Indeed we must actively discourage them from viewing homosexuality as safe and normal, when in fact it is demonstrably neither safe nor normal. It bears noting here that normalcy is functioning according to nature or design. Normalcy is not based on popular opinion.
Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell - 1984. On the Thought Police.
Note this is happening through a Republican congress. What good is electing Republicans if this type of thing passes and government keeps growing at rates not seen since the Lyndon Johnson administration?
Eventually, conservatives are going to have to stop unconditionally supporting Republicans and thinking we've won. We're losing on many fronts. The Republican party needs to know that they can lose power if they don't start doing what conservatives want.
Thanks for pointing this out. It is way past high time that the Republicans purge the party of RINOs. This is utterly inexcusable. We keep on saying to ourselves: "Surely it can''t happen here" when we read reports of Swedish pastor Ake Green being sent to do a month's hard time for reading a bible passage in a church sermon that doesn't pass muster with the homosexualist lobby. Want to bet?
It is already starting to happen here - and it's because of RINOs. RINOs are WORSE than Dems - much worse. They are the betrayers, They should be outed and destroyed. They deserve no mercy whatsoever. It is better to face an enemy who is at least honest enough to be up-front and admit he is your enemy.
I agree. NJ governer McGreevy seems to have tried both alternatives before "discovering" that he was gay. My take is that he's made that wrong choice of his own free will. At any rate, I don't see any reason that he should be afforded additional protection in the eyes of the law for making that choice.
On September 28, the U.S. House voted 213-186 to pass a procedural motion encouraging the House conference committee to approve hate crimes legislation in the final version of the Defense Authorization Act. This proposed amendment provides special protections for homosexuals.
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Contact these conference committee members and encourage them to oppose the hate crimes amendment (Senate Amendment 3183) in the Defense Authorization Act of 2005 (House Bill 4200 and Senate Bill 2400).
For a list of conference committee members from the U.S. House, please click here.
For a list of conference committee members from the U.S. Senate, please click here.
How Did We Get to This Point?
As the Senate was considering an appropriations bill for the nation's Department of Defense -- the Defense Authorization Act of 2005 -- Senator Gordon Smith (R-OR) proposed an amendment to the omnibus legislation that sought to offer special protections and rights to homosexual crime victims. Quietly, the measure passed in the Senate by a vote of 65-33.
When this same legislation was brought before the full body of the U.S. House, the hate crimes amendment was omitted from the final version of their bill. Thus, conference committee members were appointed from both the House and the Senate to reach a compromise on the final details of the legislation. The final decision will now be left up to the 54 committee members from both houses.
The Dangers of This Legislation
Pro-family advocates believe that this law could be used by activist judges or political ideologues to blur the line of religious liberty. The Bible unequivocally denounces the homosexual lifestyle as an abomination. Under this proposed legislation, an activist judge could conceivably rule that biblical language and beliefs constitute violence against homosexuals.
Law Clearly Violates 14th Amendment
Dubbed the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act, the law would offer special protections for homosexuals under federal hate crime laws, thus allowing the federal government to provide assistance for the investigation and prosecution of perceived "hate crimes."
By offering special protections for one class of people, this legislation violates the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which promises, "...nor shall any state... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Dr. Gary Cass, executive director of the Center for Reclaiming America, stated, "This legislation could set a very dangerous precedent. This law implicitly conveys that a crime against a homosexual man is more egregious than a crime against an 80-year-old grandmother."
"This legislation violates the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution," Cass concluded.
Bob Knight, director of the Culture and Family Institute, believes that if this legislation is passed, it will undoubtedly be used to “muzzle public discussion of homosexuality and even some day silence pastors.”
World Community Provides a Preview
Many nations in the world community have already passed similar legislation, providing special protections to homosexuals, and these same nations are now muzzling Christians.
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 473
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)
H R 4200 YEA-AND-NAY 28-Sep-2004 7:02 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Instruct Conferees
BILL TITLE: DOD Authorization, Fiscal Year 2005
Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 31 177 18
Democratic 182 9 14
Independent 1
TOTALS 213 186 33
---- YEAS 213 ---
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Bass
Becerra
Bell
Berkley
Berman
Biggert
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Bono
Boswell
Boucher
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Brown, Corrine
Burns
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carson (IN)
Case
Castle
Chandler
Clay
Clyburn
Conyers
Cooper
Costello
Cramer
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Deutsch
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Edwards
Emanuel
Engel
English
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Ferguson
Filner
Foley
Ford
Frank (MA)
Frelinghuysen
Frost
Gerlach
Gilchrest
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green (TX)
Greenwood
Grijalva
Harman
Herseth
Hill
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Holden
Holt
Hooley (OR)
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, E. B.
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kelly
Kennedy (RI)
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind
Kirk
Kleczka
Kolbe
Kucinich
LaHood
Lampson
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lofgren
Lowey
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Marshall
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Menendez
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore
Moran (VA)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Platts
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Rodriguez
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sabo
Sanchez, Loretta
Sandlin
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Shaw
Sherman
Shimkus
Simmons
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Solis
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Tauscher
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Turner (TX)
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weller
Wexler
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
---- NAYS 186 ---
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachus
Baker
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Beauprez
Berry
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Boozman
Boyd
Bradley (NH)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Camp
Cantor
Capito
Carson (OK)
Carter
Chabot
Chocola
Coble
Cole
Collins
Cox
Crane
Crenshaw
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis (TN)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeLay
Doolittle
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Emerson
Everett
Feeney
Flake
Forbes
Fossella
Franks (AZ)
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gibbons
Gillmor
Gingrey
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Hall
Harris
Hart
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hostettler
Houghton
Hulshof
Hyde
Issa
Istook
Jenkins
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Keller
Kennedy (MN)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kline
Knollenberg
Latham
LaTourette
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lucas (KY)
Lucas (OK)
Manzullo
McCotter
McCrery
McHugh
McInnis
McIntyre
McKeon
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Musgrave
Myrick
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Osborne
Ose
Otter
Oxley
Paul
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Pombo
Portman
Pryce (OH)
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Royce
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Ryun (KS)
Schrock
Sensenbrenner
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Shadegg
Sherwood
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (MI)
Smith (TX)
Souder
Stearns
Stenholm
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tancredo
Tanner
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiberi
Toomey
Turner (OH)
Upton
Vitter
Walsh
Wamp
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
---- NOT VOTING 33 ---
Ballenger
Barrett (SC)
Boehlert
Burr
Cannon
Cubin
DeMint
Dooley (CA)
Fattah
Gephardt
Gutierrez
Hastings (FL)
Hoeffel
Honda
Hunter
Isakson
John
Jones (OH)
Kingston
Majette
Meeks (NY)
Murtha
Nethercutt
Payne
Putnam
Rogers (KY)
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanders
Shays
Tauzin
Tiahrt
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
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