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CAMPAIGN 2004/THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE/SHOWDOWN IS HERE
Miami Herald ^ | 9/30/2004 | Lesley Clark

Posted on 09/30/2004 7:06:53 AM PDT by JesseHousman

After months of circling each other, President Bush and Sen. John Kerry touched down in South Florida on Wednesday on the eve of their highly anticipated encounter -- a 90-minute debate that could be seen by as many as 50 million people and set the tone for the campaign's final stretch.

With national polls showing Bush with a slight lead, the stakes tonight are immense: The first debate is perhaps Kerry's best opportunity to convince voters that he could be president, that Bush blundered his way into Iraq and that the Democrat can better protect the United States against the threat of terrorism.

For the president, it's a prime opportunity to seal the deal with voters who remain troubled by the continuing chaos in Iraq, a chance to convince them that despite troop casualties and continued violence, the troubled country is on the road to democracy and that America is safer under his leadership.

The first of three debates, tonight's matchup at the University of Miami opens against the backdrop of hurricane-wracked Florida, where politics has been on hold since mid-August in the largest of the up-for-grabs states.

Bush's campaign scrapped two post-debate campaign events in Florida on Friday in deference to hurricane recovery efforts. Karl Rove, his chief strategist, told Florida reporters Wednesday that the campaign is making adjustments to deal with the unknown factors of the hurricanes -- which have left Floridians without electricity, homes, and perhaps, voter registration cards.

''We're flying sort of blind,'' Rove told reporters at a briefing at Bush's Miami hotel. ``Since Aug. 13 we've not been able to get consistent polling.

''`Homes and condos are wrecked, we don't know how long it's going to take people to get home,'' he added.

For the president, however, the hurricanes have given him opportunity to appear as the comforter in chief, a role he relished Wednesday as he walked through a Lake Wales citrus grove hammered by three of the four hurricanes that tore across the state in six weeks.

Kerry's campaign, which was all but forced to stop campaigning in the state, says it is undaunted by the storms, planning a two-day, post-debate campaign swing in Florida.

`PREDEBATE FRENZY'

Indeed, both campaigns landed Wednesday in South Florida ahead of the candidates, engaging in what one strategist dubbed ''the ritual predebate frenzy:'' touting the opponent as a champion debater capable of astounding feats of wordsmanship.

The strategy: to lower expectations for your own candidate so that he gets credit even for a ho-hum performance.

''The president has his work cut out for him,'' said Bush deputy campaign manager Mark Wallace, a Miami native. He along with Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie made the rounds in Miami, puffing up Kerry while suggesting the ''pretty-plain spoken'' Bush will score simply by showing up.

''John Kerry's been preparing for this moment his whole life,'' Wallace said. ``Look at his biography, I would challenge you to find anyone more invested in the skill and art of debating.''

Democrats, too, played the expectations game, even as they acknowledged that Bush has the edge in sticking to his message and delivering simple sound bites.

''But this isn't a popularity contest,'' said Kerry strategist Mike McCurry. ``We're not electing the head cheerleader of the United States.''

Under a minutely negotiated 32-page agreement by the campaigns, the 9 p.m. event -- to take place at UM's Convocation Center -- will focus on foreign policy and homeland security. PBS NewsHour anchor Jim Lehrer will moderate, and observers predict the fireworks will be minimal.

Neither candidate will be allowed to pose questions to the other, and they are even restricted in how far they can stray from their lecterns.

With South Florida hosting the debate, it's likely that the two opponents will parry over issues dear to the heart of locals: Cuba, Latin America, the Middle East, and perhaps, Haiti.

FOCUS ON IRAQ

But strategists expect the main event to be the war in Iraq. The front-burner issue poses pitfalls for both candidates. Republicans believe the war enables Bush to look strong and determined in the face of a threat, but the rising death toll of American soldiers is a vulnerability.

Kerry's vote for the use of force in Iraq -- and his ensuing criticism of the administrations handling of the conflict -- has opened him up to accusations from the Republicans that he makes decisions based solely on how they'll play with voters.

Kerry has ratcheted up his criticism of Bush in recent weeks, painting the president as a rigid leader who is ignoring the growing chaos in Iraq that has diverted the nation's attention from a more important war on terrorism.

Bush, who has sought to tie the war in Iraq into a larger war on terrorism, will argue that his opponent is too much of a vacillator to be trusted with such an enormous task.

Political strategists suggest the stakes are higher for Kerry, who will be introducing himself to millions of voters, likely for the first time. Viewership of past debates suggest that the first debate is the most watched: Nearly 50 million tuned into the debate between former Vice President Al Gore and then Texas Gov. George W. Bush in 2000.

And though national polls suggest that voters are uncomfortable with the situation in Iraq, they are also more likely to trust Bush to solve them.

'CRITICAL' DEBATE

''It's critical for Kerry,'' said University of Alabama political science professor David Lanoue of the first debate. ``He has to convince voters he's not the slippery flipper that Bush paints him as, that he has core beliefs he sticks to.

Said Lanoue, author of The Joint Press Conference: The History, Impact, and Prospects of American Presidential Debates:

``Voters are willing to turn out George W. Bush, but not to replace him with a weak, equivocal, flip-flopping candidate.''


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; debates; presidentialdebates; skerry; turass
I only hope that President Bush can keep from laughing and that sKerry takes Gore's advise: leave his podium and walk over to stare at GW while GW is answering a question. And shout answers, wave fingers and generally act like the ass he truly is.
1 posted on 09/30/2004 7:06:53 AM PDT by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

W has a "slight" lead? Four to eleven points is "slight?"


2 posted on 09/30/2004 7:08:22 AM PDT by RockinRight (W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
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To: JesseHousman
"(Kerry) has to convince voters he's not the slippery flipper that Bush ALL OF AMERICA paints already knows he is him as..."
3 posted on 09/30/2004 7:11:38 AM PDT by jdm
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To: JesseHousman

This article highlights one of the key differences between Bush and Kerry. Bush has a good sense of people and timing. Kerry, needless to say, does not.


4 posted on 09/30/2004 7:14:28 AM PDT by Clump
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To: RockinRight

What I ask of the Bush supporters is to please read this article, Fair Expectations @ www.alternet.org. Just take a glimpse at the other side and how we view circumstances surrounding accessments of expectations required from the President.


5 posted on 09/30/2004 7:15:37 AM PDT by marski
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To: RockinRight
Oh brother! I am so sick if this debate already and it has not even started. BTW...Rush said that when CNN posted the new Gallup poll with Bush up 8 points the headline read "Bush apparently leads Kerry".

LOL You have to laugh at it really!
6 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:01 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: JesseHousman

Decisions, decisions. Unfortunately the debate collides with my Latin novela, “Pasión de Gavilanes,” which is coming to an end (like Kerry). I think I’ll stick with the novela.


7 posted on 09/30/2004 7:21:30 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: JesseHousman

We're having a friend's birthday dinner early to get home in time to watch the debate. We're having Japanese food, and I'm guaranteed to be STUFFED. (yum!) It just almost makes me physically ill to watch Shrek (or Breck, for that matter). I'll be watching, barf bag in hand.


8 posted on 09/30/2004 7:24:17 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I've SEEN the "Village" -- and I don't want it raising my children!)
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To: marski

I read it for about 35 seconds. All I can say is I am glad I am a level-headed reasonable conservative and not an extremist leftist.


9 posted on 09/30/2004 7:24:33 AM PDT by RockinRight (W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
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To: kimmie7
I remember during the 2000 debates we had such a grand time: sipping wine and eating canapes. Went to bed with visions of the loud-mouthed Gorething generally making a colossal ass of himself. We had visions of him prancing and panting around the stage and standing in front of GWB while GWB was answering a question. GWB clearly won the debate.

Then came the elections. We were having a grand time: sipping wine and eating canapes. Then things started looking like the socialists were winning.

We opened the gin and vermouth bottles and began to make a few shakers of martinis. Then things began looking even gloomier. We put the vermouth bottle back and began pouring straight gin. When we ran out of gin we opened a fresh bottle of vodka.

We went to bed in a stupor and had nightmares.

The next morning we awaoke with terrible hangovers that didn't subside for days and days of chad-counting and "counting every vote," excepting those from absentee voters.

Somehow I don't think that this year will be a repeat of 2000.

Now, all we have to do is to await 2008.

10 posted on 09/30/2004 7:38:16 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman

Jack Higgins has a cartoon in today's Chicago Sun-Times; however he does not put his cartoons up on the web until a day or so later.

http://www.suntimes.com/index/commentary.html#

Click Higgins.

Anyway, if anyone can post the cartoon it is good.

The cartoon depicts the candidates and their shadows caused by the lighting, and showing one shadow of GW and two shadows of Kerry.


11 posted on 09/30/2004 7:39:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: JesseHousman
My prediction for tonight's debate:

Kerry will break the 32-page agreement and try to directly debate President Bush. He will demand that the President answer not the moderator's questions, but his own. I believe and hope the President is ready for this.

Bob Beckel announced this on Fox & Friends this morning. Expect it tonight.

12 posted on 09/30/2004 7:43:36 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: KeyLargo

Thanks.


13 posted on 09/30/2004 7:47:11 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman

I'm going to post an opinion that should get a lot of response.

When the dust settles, Kerry will win this debate.

Freepers, the DNC and the media have spent the last week praising W's debate skills, while ignoring Kerry's. I remember in 2000, W was considered the winner, not because he crushed Gore but 1) he "held his own" and 2) Gore's "sighing". In fact, most non-partisans did not credit Bush, but were turned off by Gore. This may well happen again, since Kerry is a personable as a tree stump. However, with the Bush build-up, Bush now has to perform flawlessly in order to win this debate.

Also, Kerry CAN debate. The Kerry-Weld debate is actually used in policy/debate classes as one of the best debates ever. Sadly, the media and FReepers alike have bought into the DNC spin that Kerry is the underdog. Actually, it seems the DNC took one out of the RNC playbook, quite successfully.

Finally, orange tint and all, Kerry still towers over the President. The RNC knows this is an issue (its why the podiums are 10 feet from each other). Unless Kerry starts drooling, or if Bush starts his "deer in the headlights" look (we all know he has one), this debate is Kerry's.

I fear many people on this board may be in for a rude awakening tonight. I hope and pray that isn't the case, but be prepared.


14 posted on 09/30/2004 7:53:15 AM PDT by Hoodlum91
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To: JesseHousman

Here's hoping you're right.


15 posted on 09/30/2004 7:55:07 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I've SEEN the "Village" -- and I don't want it raising my children!)
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To: Hoodlum91

And here's hoping you're not.


;-)


16 posted on 09/30/2004 7:57:14 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I've SEEN the "Village" -- and I don't want it raising my children!)
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To: Hoodlum91
Though you may be right, I don't think it makes any difference. This article by Dales explains the historical effect of debates and why I feel that way. Daly Thoughts
17 posted on 09/30/2004 7:59:08 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Fighting the AQFK (Al-Qada for Kerry))
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To: JesseHousman

It would be wise to detail John Kerry's tendency to fall back on 20/20 hindsight when discussing Iraq. The fact should be brought up that the only way America and the international community was safer was to get rid of Saddam and find out what he had.

Kerry saying "Knowing what I know now, I wouldnt have gone in..."

Well duh...If we knew he didnt have WMD, I dont know if Bush would have either but here we are.

I would recommend Bush mock this hindsight as not a god way to govern and just shows how in the past John Kerry lives.

Safer and now know Iraq is no longer a threat to us and her neighbors.


18 posted on 09/30/2004 8:02:34 AM PDT by smith288 (The news media, sometimes I felt like I had as much to fear from them as I did the Iraqis -soldier)
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To: Hoodlum91

I actually agree with some of what you said. I totally expect Kerry to break the rules of the debate and the media has even been egging him on to do so. And no matter what happens, the media will declare Kerry the winner and go into orgasmic delight. It's a done deal. President Bush will play by the rules - Kerry will not. Kerry is going to portray President Bush as the flip-flopper and tomorrow all the media will list in detail all the "flip-flops" of the President and how they prove that Kerry is not guilty of the President's charges. It's going to get ugly. The debate reviews tonight will be pro-Kerry. I do not even trust Fox News to claim victory for the President - they don't like to appear conservative, don't ya know?


19 posted on 09/30/2004 8:06:52 AM PDT by Wait4Truth ("There is nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat!" - GWB)
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