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Premature Publication (Boston Globe publishes Debate story before debate-online now)
little green footballs ^ | 9/30/04 | Charles Johnson

Posted on 09/30/2004 12:15:27 PM PDT by finnman69

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The Boston Globe climbs into their time machine and files a report from the future on tonight’s debate: Bush and Kerry meet in first of three debates with Kerry needing to make up ground. (Hat tip: gm33.)

CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) After a deluge of campaign speeches and hostile television ads, President Bush and challenger John Kerry got their chance to face each other directly Thursday night before an audience of tens of millions of voters in a high-stakes debate about terrorism, the Iraq war and the bloody aftermath.

The 90-minute encounter was particularly crucial for Kerry, trailing slightly in the polls and struggling for momentum less than five weeks before the election. The Democratic candidate faced the challenge of presenting himself as a credible commander in chief after a torrent of Republican criticism that he was prone to changing his positions.


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1 posted on 09/30/2004 12:15:27 PM PDT by finnman69
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With a record of four years in office to defend, Bush had a debate strategy of being optimistic about Iraq but acknowledging that times were tough. His stance is that Americans know he is a decisive leader even if they don't always agree with his decisions and that Kerry has taken conflicting positions on Iraq and can't be trusted to lead the nation.

Although Kerry voted to give Bush authority to invade Iraq, he says he would not have followed Bush's path to war a path that alienated allies and, the Democrat says, left Americans less secure. Kerry argues Bush is out of touch with reality, paints too rosy a picture about Iraq and lacks a strategy to end the crisis.

Kerry also says Bush has neglected other major problems like North Korea and Iran, two nations suspected of pursing nuclear weapons.


2 posted on 09/30/2004 12:16:27 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

After tonight we can also say that kerry is a Mass.debater.


3 posted on 09/30/2004 12:17:26 PM PDT by pipecorp ("never know where you're going till you get there." the philosopher Insectus Harem)
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To: finnman69

hah- good catch.


4 posted on 09/30/2004 12:17:27 PM PDT by flashbunny (.org)
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To: finnman69

Don't worry, they'll still counting the ballots in Flordia in March.


5 posted on 09/30/2004 12:17:39 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: finnman69

huh?


6 posted on 09/30/2004 12:17:49 PM PDT by conrad metcalf 42
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To: finnman69
Meh. If they'd done a Lapham and talked about the substance of the debates, this would be a big deal, but the verb tense thing doesn't bother me.
7 posted on 09/30/2004 12:19:26 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: finnman69

It's an AP piece. ABC was running the same story. I sent it to Drudge earlier.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040930_1184.html


8 posted on 09/30/2004 12:20:36 PM PDT by Republican Red (We're going to win one for the gipper...they're going to lose one for the flipper)
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To: finnman69

"I voted to attack the Daleks before I voted not to attack the Daleks."

9 posted on 09/30/2004 12:20:36 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: finnman69

There is nothing in this story that indicates anything. Just a very general story ready to be published as soon as it starts.


10 posted on 09/30/2004 12:21:27 PM PDT by smith288 (The news media, sometimes I felt like I had as much to fear from them as I did the Iraqis -soldier)
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To: pipecorp

nyuk nyuk


11 posted on 09/30/2004 12:22:18 PM PDT by BJClinton (Download "The New Soldier" at http://freekerrybook.org/documents/NEWSOLDIER.pdf)
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To: pipecorp

They been callin' Bush that (or somethin' sounds a lot like it) for months now over on DU.


12 posted on 09/30/2004 12:24:04 PM PDT by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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To: finnman69
Here it is for posterity, replete with time-stamp:
boston.com News your connection to The Boston Globe

Bush and Kerry meet in first of three debates with Kerry needing to make up ground

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CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) After a deluge of campaign speeches and hostile television ads, President Bush and challenger John Kerry got their chance to face each other directly Thursday night before an audience of tens of millions of voters in a high-stakes debate about terrorism, the Iraq war and the bloody aftermath.

The 90-minute encounter was particularly crucial for Kerry, trailing slightly in the polls and struggling for momentum less than five weeks before the election. The Democratic candidate faced the challenge of presenting himself as a credible commander in chief after a torrent of Republican criticism that he was prone to changing his positions.

Bush was expected to confront questions about leading the nation into war on the still-unproven premise that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He also has faced accusations that he lacked a strategy to deal with the violence and chaos that have left more than 1,000 Americans dead and that the Iraq war has diverted U.S. attention from al-Qaida and other terrorists.

With a record of four years in office to defend, Bush had a debate strategy of being optimistic about Iraq but acknowledging that times were tough. His stance is that Americans know he is a decisive leader even if they don't always agree with his decisions and that Kerry has taken conflicting positions on Iraq and can't be trusted to lead the nation.

Although Kerry voted to give Bush authority to invade Iraq, he says he would not have followed Bush's path to war a path that alienated allies and, the Democrat says, left Americans less secure. Kerry argues Bush is out of touch with reality, paints too rosy a picture about Iraq and lacks a strategy to end the crisis.

Kerry also says Bush has neglected other major problems like North Korea and Iran, two nations suspected of pursing nuclear weapons.

Kerry, in a taped interview on ABC's ''Good Morning America'' on Thursday, said, ''George Bush is scaring America. He's talking terror every day, and people see terrible images of what's happening in the world, and they're real.''

Bush spent the morning comforting hurricane victims on his fifth survey of Florida areas hit by storms. At the Martin County, Fla., Red Cross center, Bush thanked volunteers for showing ''the true heart of America. We long to help somebody when they're hurting.''

The debate's focus on Iraq was sharpened by bombings in Baghdad Thursday that killed three dozen children.

Ahead in the polls, Bush could afford to settle for a debate draw while Kerry needed something to break the status quo. Some Democrats saw the debates as the last chance for a Kerry breakout.

Thursday night's meeting at the University of Miami was the first of three Bush-Kerry debates over a two-week period. Neither side was underestimating its importance with a TV audience of 30 million to 40 million expected. Almost a third of people surveyed say the debates will be a deciding factor in how they vote.

The first debate drew the nation's attention to hurricane-battered Florida and its political importance. Florida swung the presidency to Bush in the disputed 2000 election and could determine whether he wins re-election.

The debates were staged under a rigid set of rules negotiated by the candidates' representatives to limit spontaneity and opportunities for back-and-forth exchanges.

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13 posted on 09/30/2004 12:24:29 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: finnman69

Looks like a basic grammar problem with tense shifting...Ah the benefits of a liberal education.


14 posted on 09/30/2004 12:25:01 PM PDT by Vortex (Garbage in, Garbage Out)
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To: finnman69; Admin Moderator

This should be in breaking news, considering that it hasn't even broken yet and won't until later tonight....


15 posted on 09/30/2004 12:25:12 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: finnman69

Do the Red Sox win the Series?


16 posted on 09/30/2004 12:26:10 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I actually debated George Bush before I debated him.


17 posted on 09/30/2004 12:26:50 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Whew! For a second there, I thought I had worked through the night, missed the debates, and it was Friday!


18 posted on 09/30/2004 12:27:47 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Hurl the invective!)
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To: finnman69
I actually debated George Bush before I debated him.

Expect my reply sometime in the last five minutes. :)

19 posted on 09/30/2004 12:28:30 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: finnman69
Not a surprise really. And why not? (barf) They are just a big Kerry fan club puppet.
20 posted on 09/30/2004 12:28:41 PM PDT by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune.)
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