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Snipers Say U.S. Ties Angered Comrades (In Canada even the military is morally-superior)
The Toronto Sun ^ | September 30, 2004 | Bruce Campion-Smith

Posted on 09/30/2004 1:13:24 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: Bedford Forrest

Sorry bout this, but a Canuck in Afghanistan has the longest kill on record. Those guys earned their bread and more working with the GIs in Afghanistan.


41 posted on 09/30/2004 2:32:28 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: Caged in Canuckistan
Look up the record for the longest confirmed kill in combat. It belongs to a Canadian.

True, but they were using American ammo ;)

42 posted on 09/30/2004 2:36:06 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: xkaydet65

Now that I've escaped the cubicle for the evening, I got a link confirming the sniper record:

http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/BoltActionsSpeak.asp


43 posted on 09/30/2004 2:37:42 PM PDT by Caged in Canuckistan
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To: kaktuskid

That, and their overall inferiority complex.


44 posted on 09/30/2004 2:41:10 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: ScreamingFist

True, but they were using American ammo ;)


Wouldn't surprise me. We had to hitch a ride on US transport planes, and our military couldn't afford desert camoflage, so our soldiers had to go into desert combat wearing green fatigues. No joke. This is Jean Chretien's legacy.


45 posted on 09/30/2004 2:42:50 PM PDT by Caged in Canuckistan
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To: quidnunc

I'd think we could find them gainful employment this side of the border....pay's probably better as well.


46 posted on 09/30/2004 2:44:25 PM PDT by norton
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To: Caged in Canuckistan
We're not all bad you know.

I never said that you all were. But you must admit that the commie putrifaction has spread a lot further in Canada than it has here - subject to the usual caveat that that can all change in a heartbeat. And your defense establishment, a requirement for any nation that wishes to be taken seriously, has not existed in any real sense since the early 1950s. That said, you still produce warriors and since they have no place to go in Canada they frequently enlist in our armed services, including many in the US Marine Corps. One of my more stellar flight instructors in Kingsville Texas a thousand years ago was a Marine Captain -a Canadian from Saskatchewan. He had enlisted a year under the age limit and since he was a farm boy he liked to brag to us that when he went through Parris Island, he got out of shape - too much food and not enough heavy work!

47 posted on 09/30/2004 2:44:32 PM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: quidnunc

I'd think we could find them gainful employment this side of the border....pay's probably better as well.


48 posted on 09/30/2004 2:54:06 PM PDT by norton
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To: Caged in Canuckistan

I will always remember that the Canadians helped six of our Iranian embassy people escape.

"During the riot, six Americans escaped on the confusion and fled to the Canadian Embassy in Iran, under the hospitality of Canadian Ambassador Ken Taylor. Mark Lijek, Cora Amburn Lijek, Joseph Stafford, Kathleen Stafford, Robert Anders and Henry Lee Schatz were then given fake Canadian passports so they were able to leave the Canadian Embassy, without being identified as Americans, after it had closed."


49 posted on 09/30/2004 2:57:20 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (W WALKS THE WALK!)
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To: quidnunc
Canada is like a little child clinging to the breast of the U.S. while simultaneously berating its benefactor and proclaiming its own superiority between ill deserved suckles at the American teat.

Screw Canada. We don't need their soldiers, and we don't need their lumber (or beef, or pork, or wheat, or anything else they produce). They do need our protection and dollars to keep their socialist bubble from bursting. I think a little anti-NAFTA reminder of that fact is in order.

Plus, I cannot image that a country with Canada's fascist "gun control" laws could possibly produce better snipers than the U.S. heartlands. This is probably another stupid military decision drivenm by "coalition building" politics.

50 posted on 09/30/2004 2:58:31 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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To: quidnunc
But other Canadian soldiers resented their close affiliation with the American troops and made no secret of it when the snipers returned to their base in Afghanistan and then home to Canada

Probably the Quebeqois ones. (French (sort of) speaking Canuks)

51 posted on 09/30/2004 3:00:35 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: donozark

I cannot speak for Quebec - they have a different take on the States than English Canadians.

I would say a good 1/4 of the rest of Canada is broadly anti-American. Unfortunately, thjese bitter b*stards are over-represented in all government related jobs and professions, as thinking that way is part of the proof that you Drink the Koolaid unquestioningly.

Politically correct Party Line Canadian thinking requires that one simultaneously believe that Americans are the stupidest people on the planet. But also the most cunning.

That's the beauty of totalitarian modes of thought, they are broad enough to encompass contradictions. One must be able to believe dead opposites in all sorts of matters to be a nimble ascender of Canadian Establishment hierarchies, just as with other more notorious ideological regimes.

The Canadian Establishment is populated by some truly loathsome creatures, characterized by a malignant intellectual bankruptcy and a contemptible moral cowardice.

Socialism will not work in Canada, just as it didn't work in Cambodia.


52 posted on 09/30/2004 3:13:37 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Caged in Canuckistan

From Canada??

IO know a few Marine Corps Scout Snipers who would beg to differ!


53 posted on 09/30/2004 3:16:21 PM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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To: pillbox_girl

You might not need the lumber, the pork, beef (which is DELICIOUS by the way), or the wheat, but could I interest you in all this spare oil we have floating around? Unless you like getting it from Saudi Arabia.

Seriously though, you shouldn't generalize people so much. All nations have all kinds of people. You can't just look at what the majority of a certain nation believes and apply that to everyone from said nation. And consider this: how many other nations in the world would you like to share a 3000 mile long border with?


54 posted on 09/30/2004 3:26:18 PM PDT by Caged in Canuckistan
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To: Caged in Canuckistan

I am glad you are here to add insights from Canada. I have only posted one article since I've been here. I was so excited to see a Canadian saying nice things about America I had to post it even though it was several years old.

It is quite sad that the brave snipers were treated with such disrespect when they were only doing their job and doing it well. Did their fellow soldiers want the snipers to miss their targets so that more Americans would die or disobey their govt. when sent to help in Afghanistan?


55 posted on 09/30/2004 3:30:16 PM PDT by Reb Raider
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To: Bedford Forrest
Really? You must be referring to those Canadians [if any] who have enlisted in the US Marine Corps and successfully completed Marine sniper school. If such be the case, more power to them. Otherwise, your statement is not well supported.

Not true there been quite a few stores on the web (and posted at FR) on the Canadians sniper proving to exceptional... One I believe is credited with a new record for longest range confirmed kill... hey what do you expect just like here they have got alot of backwood "Canadian" country boys the grew up shooting too... give them there due

56 posted on 09/30/2004 3:37:37 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( “Old Yeller” Democrats is a Yellow Dog that has become Crazy & Rabid)
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To: pillbox_girl
It depends on what you mean with "we don't need". If as in " we will survive without", you're probably right. If as in "we would hardly notice" you couldn't be more wrong.

Canadian oil, hydro-electric power, and even lumber are among the most important natural resources we import. I recommend that you read up on the amount of oil buried in the tar sands up there and compare it to the remaining world resources. You'll be surprised.

Trade with Canada accounts for almost as much as trade with China and Mexico combined. And don't look exclusively at the dollar associated dollar amounts. While we import mainly natural resources Canada imports mainly manufactured goods. Dependency on the former usually outweighs dependencies on the latter.

As for the snipers, it's well documented that Canada has big talents in that field. In recent competitions Canadian snipers have taken top honors.

If you choose to ignore facts that's your prerogative, of course. It just makes you look stupid.
57 posted on 09/30/2004 3:37:51 PM PDT by drtom
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To: headsonpikes

I had hoped things would improve when Jacks Cretin exited. Unfortunately, they haven't. The poll of Canadian school children was quite upsetting. Looks like the socialists in Canada have destroyed the school system. Just as they have done in USA...


58 posted on 09/30/2004 3:38:48 PM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: donozark

The school system is the main power base of our own totalitarians. The system is 'socializing' the children to fit in to the future socialist community.

The Party Line suffuses every subject in the public schools in Canada - not that different from the USA.


59 posted on 09/30/2004 3:45:24 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Caged in Canuckistan
I lived in Canada for four years. I married a Canadian. He hates the bastards too. We finally got out. Good riddance.

Canada is so screwed up they waste millions of Canadian taxpayer dollars (which amounts to 70% of millions of real dollars) every year trying to convince the Quepeckers to stay.

Federal elections in Canada are routinely decided before the polls even open in western Canada, but it is western Canada that produces the products that pay for the rest of the country. Alberta and B.C. are literally subject colonies to the eastern welfare empire, but they don't have the collective balls to do anything about it (which makes sense; Canadians as a whole are defined as spineless serfs who lacked the testicle to throw off the shackles of British colonial rule in 1776).

When we were living in Canada, we read of murders in the paper all the time. I didn't dare go outside at night even in my own neighborhood. But God forbid I should be allowed to carry a handgun. Back in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, I go for a walk outside almost every night, but my Glock stayes at home. I don't need it here.

And the wonderful socialized Canadian "health care" service the Democrats keep trying to push in the U.S.? My mother in law had to wait for four months for a mammogram after she discovered a lump in her breast. We still don't know if it's malignant, but she's already on the waiting list for a mastectomy because she can't afford to wait for the results. If it turns out to be malignant, at least she won't be at the back of the line.

60 posted on 09/30/2004 3:54:38 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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