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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: Cold Heat
Kerry will likely win the second debate on domestic policy. Democrats always do better of this area as that is their game.

I don't think Kerry will win the demestic debate. Bush will talk about taxes, taxes, taxes. He showed his hand tonight and Kerry will be shown to be a soft on defense big spender. No good for him.

3,421 posted on 09/30/2004 10:12:23 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: goldstategop
"we didn't need that tax cut."

Great!

A millionare that didn't need a tax cut!

Maybe we 'little people' do!

Another zinger that will show up to haunt Kerry.

3,422 posted on 09/30/2004 10:13:31 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Rennes Templar
I just got home. Missed it all. Who won?

Bush. Go to bed. LOL

3,423 posted on 09/30/2004 10:13:42 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: Blowtorch

I hope that somewhere, somehow, the media will get out the point by point on Kerry's lies during the debate, as well as his outlandish proposals.

Nukes to Iran? Hey, let's send some C-4 to Al Qaeda for that urban renewal they're so hot on!


3,424 posted on 09/30/2004 10:13:46 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: Lee Shore

"Terrorists are not a country."

That will not be the general view a year from now. Iran must be funding a lot of the Iraq insurgency. N. Korea is a terrorist state. We'll have no problem using nuclear bunker busters when the time comes. There are comparatively low yield with no mushroom cloud, so there won't be as much outcry. And they will be used after the stage is set by some massive terrorist strike (bigger than 9-11), so hearts will have hardened.


3,425 posted on 09/30/2004 10:14:03 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Rennes Templar

I think Bush did good. Kerry was smooth, and did better than I thought he would... But Bush stayed on message and Kerry was, well, Kerry. Obnoxious, elistist , know it all, I can do it better, I,I,I,I can do it better... I would have done this, I would have done that. Monday morning QB.


3,426 posted on 09/30/2004 10:14:08 PM PDT by gigi
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

If Bush keeps up the "unfit to be President" schtick he will win the next two debates as well:)


3,427 posted on 09/30/2004 10:14:23 PM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty
And I also know that every stinking time that I reload this forum, just like every other person here, that we need to keep downloading those graphics... and anyone on a modem - or even a slow DSL link - are getting killed.

The FR server was so bogged down tonight with traffic, that I doubt that Tonkin's graphics from Tonkin's graphics server going through your low speed modem was a problem. Given the FR server bottleneck, Tonkin's graphics through your modem had very little competition and probably slid right through.

Now your many posts, complaining -- that's a different story.

3,428 posted on 09/30/2004 10:14:40 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Don_Ret_USAF
Did anyone catch Bush remark, that we will stay the course with the all volunteer forces.

Yes! And I thought it was a skilled insertment, if that's a word, into the debate. This should serve as a handy sound byte if the Dems bring up this draft thing again.

3,429 posted on 09/30/2004 10:15:08 PM PDT by Fishtalk (Once a liberal and victim of all the spin. Ask me to interpret.)
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To: Happy2BMe

The more I reflect on it, the more impressed I am with teh Prez's performance. Like someone posted, he won just by the fact that he had enough control to not go over and paste the traitor. He didn't "scare off" the uniformed, undecided, ambivalent voter with too much attack. He was focused. Admitted it was hard work....and he DIRECTLY asked for the people's vote.


3,430 posted on 09/30/2004 10:15:08 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: Rennes Templar
I just got home. Missed it all. Who won?

Bush kicked Kerry's @$$ so hard, he's probably sh***ing out his ears as we speak.

3,431 posted on 09/30/2004 10:16:12 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: All

Okay, it's after 1:00 and I'm losing conciousness. Bush won. Get over it. Goodnight.


3,432 posted on 09/30/2004 10:16:21 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("I love the smell of ruined careers in the morning. It smells like ... like victory!")
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To: camboianchristmas

I need no reminder and I appreciate your concern. There are dangerous aspects to a potential Kerry presidency. However, I remain an optimist. Times are changing and the way information is distributed and decisions made are changing. The revolution isn't coming. It's here. It ain't the Age of Aquarius.


3,433 posted on 09/30/2004 10:16:39 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (Grandson of IwoJimaVet)
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To: netmilsmom

Kerry made a couple of little errors like that tonight. At least Pres. Bush did not put a nazi camp in Moscow.
The Pottery Barn Rule reminds me of Daschle misquoting the Golden Rule on Meet The Depressed.


3,434 posted on 09/30/2004 10:16:48 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: traviskicks
Why couldn't he use them? They're right! So frustrating watching him sit there and take it.

Bush was consistently staying on message, and the message was that he is consistent and Kerry isn't. Kerry tried all kinds of tricks and Bush didn;'t fall for them he just stayed firm in his resolve. The method reinforced the message.

3,435 posted on 09/30/2004 10:16:57 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: Robert_Paulson2; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; tongue-tied; Howlin; Mo1; ...
Kerry made it clear, he wants to form committees of international socialists to get permission and advice on how to defend our nation. But America knows, that France and Germany do NOT a coalition make.

Exactly!

He has been pretty consistent on that!

3,436 posted on 09/30/2004 10:17:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You're welcome,but heck,you know me,I'm blunt,but honest and ALWAYS give give credit,where credit is due. :-)

(((((((((((((((((((((((((( hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) right back for you.

3,437 posted on 09/30/2004 10:17:45 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: John Lenin

I thought sKerry seemed very Canfranish today...a Canadian Liberal with French surrender-cheese in his veins and he sent the same message that the Communist Spaniard, Zapatero, sent to the Muhammadan terrorists...John Fing Kerry will declare peace, hold statesman summits with the French (who all of a sudden will be one of those 'coerced allies' that will let sKerry bail out of Iraq when he 'outsources' the WoT) and act like their UN Oil for Food participation with Sodom Insane (and subsequentally the French's reason for obstructing the WoT, dragging us through the UN charade and generally acting and sounding like our enemy) never happened or doesn't matter!

(breath)


3,438 posted on 09/30/2004 10:17:54 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Fatalis

True........raising taxes and class envy,are NOT a winning hand;however,it's the one Kerry's playing.


3,439 posted on 09/30/2004 10:18:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: conservative in nyc

Just had a thought..about the bunker buster bomb..perhpas Bush let that go because it may come up in the domestic issues "debate" and at that time Bush can point out that Kerry's plan to dump the bomb would be consistent with his votes agains all the weapons used today in the War on Terror...


3,440 posted on 09/30/2004 10:19:36 PM PDT by celtic gal ( .wish we could put Rush up against Kerry...)
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