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Muslim freed by US issues terror threats
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 01/10/2004 | Julian Isherwood

Posted on 09/30/2004 7:28:22 PM PDT by Destro

Muslim freed by US issues terror threats

By Julian Isherwood, Scandinavia Correspondent

(Filed: 01/10/2004)

Danish authorities said yesterday they might have to return a recently-released Guantanamo Bay prisoner to US custody after he said cabinet ministers were fair targets and vowed to travel to fight Russian forces in Chechnya.

"I'm going to Chechnya to fight for the Muslims," Slimane Hadj Abderahmane said in a television interview.

Earlier, Mr Abderahmane said the Danish prime minister and defence minister were targets.

"Denmark is the only country that hasn't realised that a country's leaders are legitimate targets of war in a war situation.

"If you're not prepared to accept those consequences, then don't go to war," said Mr Abderahmane, who added that he planned to go underground and would not appear in public again.

Lene Espersen, the justice minister, ordered a police investigation, particularly into whether Mr Abderahmane's plans to travel to Chechnya breached release agreements with the United States which would require his detention or return to American custody.

"I urge the government to pack him off back to the Americans," said Pia Kjaersgaard, the leader of the Danish People's Party, the minority government's coalition partner.

Earlier she described Mr Abderahmane's statements as "high treason" and called for his imprisonment.

A Muslim of Algerian descent, Mr Abderahmane, 31, was released from Guantanamo Bay two months ago after 747 days in confinement.

He was originally arrested in the border region between Afghanistan and Pakistan by American special forces and deemed a terrorist.

He denies this but makes no secret of his strong Islamic sympathies.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abderahmane; catchandrelease; chechnya; denmark; gitmo; globaljihad; guantanamobay; religionofpeace; religionofpieces
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1 posted on 09/30/2004 7:28:22 PM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro

Just further evidence that the leftists (including some judges) are allowing TERRORISTS to walk free from GitMo...


2 posted on 09/30/2004 8:02:48 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam - the cult of Satan - The DemocRAT Party= Acolytes of SATAN)
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To: Destro

Fine. The government doesn't have the nads to do what needs to be done, then the people will have to take over.

This POS shouldn't even be breathing.


3 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:17 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Indie

He wants to go to Chechnya? I say we send him to our new ally, Russia.


4 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:27 PM PDT by throttlejockey
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To: TheBattman

Its Bush's fault.

He should tell the courts to go to hell.


5 posted on 09/30/2004 8:27:15 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: Destro

we'll take one danish to go


6 posted on 09/30/2004 8:51:44 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (bird in hand is worth 2 in a Bush)
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To: Destro
"Danish authorities said yesterday they might have to return a recently-released Guantanamo Bay prisoner to US custody after he said cabinet ministers were fair targets and vowed to travel to fight Russian forces in Chechnya."

Oh so now that he has threatened you you want him back in our prison? Forget that you liberal Nordic types... get your own prison island so we can take you to world court.
7 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:08 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: throttlejockey

Now THAT'S the kind of thinking we NEED in our government! I expect the Russians would be able to solve his problem very nicely.


8 posted on 09/30/2004 9:01:51 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Destro
"I'm going to Chechnya to fight for the Muslims," Slimane Hadj Abderahmane said in a television interview.

Yet another terrorist released at the behest of America's own Liberals. Way to go, jackasses!

9 posted on 09/30/2004 10:23:21 PM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: Destro; Calpernia; Alabama MOM; StillProud2BeFree; Velveeta; lacylu; Revel

Ping


10 posted on 10/01/2004 7:25:10 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: Destro

When are we going to learn that we must kill anyone associated with terrorists and castrate anyone suspected of terrorist associations?


11 posted on 10/01/2004 7:28:56 AM PDT by ArmedNReady (Islam, the cancer on humanity that needs radiation treatment.)
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To: Prime Choice

"Yet another terrorist released at the behest of America's own Liberals. Way to go, jackasses!"

If this "thing" goes to Chechnya to fight and he kills children - liberals will have the blood of innocents on their hands, again (abortion comes to mind).


12 posted on 10/01/2004 7:32:32 AM PDT by LibSnubber (liberal democrats ARE domestic terrorists)
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To: ArmedNReady; Travis McGee
I have stated before on this forum that as terrorists - these criminals are not covered under the Geneva conventions. As such we should after capture of these terrorists hold a drum head court martial and execute terrorists within 30 days.

I would not use torture for any info gathering. If they offer useful information they will get a stay of execution. Turn them or hang them.

Those convicted of being terrorists will be executed and buried without religous ceremony out to sea.

Those Muslim terrorists that issue an recantation of terror and their association to terrorists will be executed as well but will be given a Muslim burial and bodies sent to their families.

The Muslim ceremony will be the one selected by the US and will NOT be of the kind used by these groups on purpose. Either they accept what to them is heretical Islam before they are executed so they can be buried or they are simply dumped into the sea without ceremony.

Broadcast videos of their recantations after their execution so they can not be claimed as martyrs.

The war would be over in a year.

13 posted on 10/01/2004 8:25:48 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

I read another artical about this guy. They let him go when he signed an oath to not do any more terrorism. He said latter on, "They can use the aoth back in Washington for Toilet Paper!" So now they let the terrorists go just by signing an oath??? As if Muslims have any honor!!!


14 posted on 10/04/2004 1:30:42 PM PDT by MotorcycleNana
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To: Destro

By the way, does'nt this prove (AGAIN!)Putin's right about foreigners fighting with the Islamofacists in Chechnya?


15 posted on 10/04/2004 1:32:16 PM PDT by MotorcycleNana
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To: Destro
said Mr Abderahmane, who added that he planned to go underground

He's going underground, all right. About 2 meters, give or take.

16 posted on 10/04/2004 1:33:42 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Indie
Being released, in the simple mind of this POS, is confirmation of the "rightness" of his position.

Someday, if we survive that long, we may be able to grasp the existence (and the lethality) of that mentality.

17 posted on 10/04/2004 1:41:15 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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To: Publius6961
Being released, in the simple mind of this POS, is confirmation of the "rightness" of his position. Someday, if we survive that long, we may be able to grasp the existence (and the lethality) of that mentality.

His release is also confirmation of the non-relationship between social "conservatism" and the political party called "republican."
:(

Somewhere, common sense got lost along the way in this country.

18 posted on 10/04/2004 1:51:46 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: MotorcycleNana

Muslims are not obliged to honor any agreements with non-Muslims.


19 posted on 10/04/2004 2:05:26 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro; MarMema

Here is the latest artical by Georgie Anne Geyer. I am totally shocked!When did she turn into a leftist commie liberal????? I always thought she was a Conservative collumnist??


BESLAN SCHOOL SIEGE LEAVES US WITH TRAGIC CONCLUSIONS

Thu Sep 30, 7:59 PM ET Op/Ed - Georgie Ann Geyer


By Georgie Anne Geyer

WASHINGTON -- Despite the virtual monopoly in the news by Iraq (news - web sites) over the last two years, another story leapt into the headlines in early September. The heinous attack on the Beslan school in southern Russia not only reminded the world that small but poisoned situations like Chechnya (news - web sites) still exist, but it made clear how authoritarian a state Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) is bent upon creating.


Georgie Ann Geyer


The initial, overwhelming conclusions were two: 1) The Islamic Chechens' attack on Christian Russians showed inexorably that their "terrorism" was implacable and non-negotiable, and 2) the Putin "security state" had the reason and the right to wipe them out piteously and without mercy.


These developments sat all too well in the Bush administration. Here was another prime example, despite some murmurs about "negotiation" from Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites), to reinforce their actions in Iraq, to show that terrorism must be wiped out everywhere.


There is only one caveat: Information now coming out of Russia indicates that there actually were attempts to negotiate, that the terrorists, savage as they were and unforgivable their actions, did have a list of initial demands that were not unreasonable, and that there remain rational, if traumatized, Chechens who could be negotiated with -- should Putin so desire.


Only this week, in Moscow, Ruslan Aushev, the former president of the neighboring region of Ingushetia and the man sent by the Kremlin to talk to the terrorists that black day of Sept. 1, gave a remarkable press conference. He urged the Russian government to talk with the more moderate rebels in Chechnya, saying its harsh policies there were only creating more terrorism.


"There are moderate rebels -- fortunately they make up the majority," said Aushev, who is respected by all sides. "But there are also radicals who are ready to blow up, seize and so on. So, the more pressure and force we use, the more radicals we create."


He said that, when he entered the schoolhouse where at least 335 children and adults would die, the terrorists gave him a piece of notebook paper which, with a perverted respectfulness, was addressed to "His Excellency, President of the Russian Federation Putin." It demanded the withdrawal of Russian troops from Chechnya, the inclusion of Chechnya as a separate state within the commonwealth of former Soviet states, the continued use of the ruble and the restoration of order in the region.


But Moscow was unwilling to negotiate. Instead, with shots fired from both the terrorists inside and local armed villagers outside, whom the Russian security forces did not control, the situation was doomed. So now everyone waits tensely -- with memories of past horrors of Caucasus pogroms -- for Oct. 13 -- the day that 40 days of mourning end and when all sides always begin to take revenge.


And the larger outcome? The distinguished Russian specialist David Satter, author of "Darkness at Dawn: The Rise of the Russian Criminal State," wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal from Moscow: "The horrifying outcome of the Beslan school siege in southern Russia makes clear that President Vladimir Putin's determination to crush the Chechen resistance at all costs is a form of moral suicide that will destroy what is left of Russian democracy and could threaten the whole world. ... Perhaps as shocking as the behavior of the terrorists was the reaction of the Russian authorities, who made no effort to save the hostages but concentrated exclusively on achieving their political goals."


Backing up Satter's analysis is a fascinating talk I recently had here in Washington with a bright young Russian, Ilya Ponomarev. He works in an opposition movement called the Youth Left Front, which combines both democratic elements and remnants of the old Communist Party.


He had just returned from a lengthy visit to the Caucasus and, in Chechnya and its region, he found corruption so central and so extreme that, in many cases, the Russian military and the rebels were splitting the earnings from local oil wells and other industries. "There were no traces of Arabs fighting with the Chechens," he told me, "and the Chechen side sees it as a noble fight."


But, he said, ordinary, suffering Chechens in general had given up their earlier passion for independence -- an important observation apparently born out by the demands presented in the school -- and were willing to settle for a position inside the Russian Federation.


"Why a school?" I asked him at one point.


"They have strange ideas in their heads," he answered. "The rebels were trying to pick a holy place to Russians. They thought Putin would not dare to remove them from there." He also found that in earlier attacks, when Chechen guerrillas attacked Ingushetia in June, everybody knew ahead of time what was going to happen. "Don't come today," he was told by friends in the south. "There's going to be an invasion."


We should not let events in Chechnya stand as an example of hopeless and non-negotiable terror that we can use to back up our own wars against terrorists. Rather, we should see these situations as the tragic and confused ones that they are -- and realize that every day that passes without serious negotiation over real issues, the situations only grow more grave and untreatable.


Nor should we encourage Vladimir Putin to use these admitted horrors as his "Reichstag fire" or his "Sudetenland" (Hitler's excuses for launching all-out war) to create a new dictatorship in Russia.


Chechnya is a mixture of the savage and deranged fighters who attacked the Beslan school and radicalized, but salvageable, Chechen people with a real, centuries-old, legitimate cause against the Russians. There is still a tiny fraction of hope for a negotiated settlement; whether a power-obsessed Kremlin will, even at this late moment, grasp it seems, sadly, less and less possible.













20 posted on 10/04/2004 2:21:27 PM PDT by MotorcycleNana
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