Skip to comments.Kerry Lied in Debate
Posted on 09/30/2004 8:23:01 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
KERRY CLAIMS HE'S "NEVER, EVER" USED WORD "LYING" IN REFERENCE TO PRESIDENT BUSH ON IRAQ.
JIM LEHRER: "New question, Senator Kerry. Two minutes. You've repeatedly accused President Bush, not here tonight but elsewhere before, of not telling the truth about Iraq. Essentially, of lying to the American people about Iraq. Give us some examples of what you consider to be his not telling the truth."
SEN. KERRY: "Well, I've never, ever used the harshest word as you just did." (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)
BUT IN DECEMBER 2003, KERRY TOLD NEW HAMPSHIRE EDITORIAL BOARD BUSH "LIED" ABOUT REASON FOR GOING TO WAR IN IRAQ. "Kerry also told a New Hampshire newspaper editorial board Friday that Bush had 'lied' about his reasons for going to war in Iraq, a word Kerry has been reluctant to use publicly for months. Yesterday he said he did not plan to use the word again." (Patrick Healy, "Kerry Camp Lowers N.H. Expectations Behind In Polls, Senator Now Seeks Spot In 'Top Two,'" The Boston Globe, 12/8/03)
AND IN SEPTEMBER 2003, KERRY SAID BUSH ADMINISTRATION "LIED" AND "MISLED." "This administration has lied to us. They have misled us. And they have broken their promises to us. The president promised to the people and the Congress that he would build an international coalition, respect the United Nations' process and only go to war as a last resort. I will tell you that from my war fighting experience, I believe there is a test for a president as to how you go to war. And that test is whether or not you can look in the eyes of parents and say to them, 'I did everything possible to avoid the loss of your son and daughter, but we had no other choice in order to protect the security of our nation,' and I know this president fails that test in Iraq." (Sen. John Kerry, Campaign Event, Claremont, NH, 9/20/03)
Fast enough for the conservative talkers tomorrow...even early enough for Bill Bennett!
This debate did not go particularly well. By his own admission, Bush is not a great debater. Kerry was the better speaker, though I give Bush the edge on substance.
I think Kerry helped himself with some undecided voters who had leaned towards him earlier in the year. But otherwise, I don't see the debate having much impact on the race.
"I said he lied before I said he didn't lie"
You know I'm kinda frustrated on why Bush didn't whack Kerry up the side of the head a couple times, but you know I think there was a reason for this....
First, without saying too much, Bush didn't say anything patently false like Kerry did. Second, he wanted to beat home a couple specific messages. Do you remember Kerry's nuanced responses or do you remember Bush in saying Kerry couldn't keep one position, or that his wrong war, wrong time was the wrong message to give troops and allies? Finally, Bush came off as a "normal" guy who has a strength of convictions. Kerry kind of came off as the lecturing professor like algore did 4 years ago.
I was pissed originally, now I don't feel so bad and in fact I think Kerry gave Bush a lot of fodder going down the road, Bush gave Kerry nothing... What is the Kerry campaign to knock on the President without sounding pessimistic or rude?
Get ready for his Clintonia nuance, I said the "administration" lied, not the "President"
Strike 2 -
TOMMY FRANKS ON CNN: Osama bin Laden is not in Afghanistan, as Senator Kerry said he is.
On lacking a plan for winning the peace: "If you read my book, you'll find I mention a term called 'catastrophic success.' It's a good news thing. . . . But it takes a long time to bring stability to a place that hasn't known stability for a long time. It's inaccurate to say that there was not a plan . . . but some in our media built expectations that that would happen more quickly than was possible."
Strike 3 -
The US and China have said they were confident North Korea will return to six-party talks to end the stand-off over Pyongyang's nuclear programmes.
US State Secretary Colin Powell said after talks with Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing the format was "what we should be concentrating on".
Mr Li described the talks as the "only feasible and correct option"
Maybe this will turn out to be a win for Bush when the VRWC gets talk radio all over the numerous Kerry lies.
I was stunned by his bi-polar opinions. Wrong war, etc., then clearly states Saddam had to be removed, he was a threat...this guy is hard to keep up with. I think he is pathological.
I hope he gets ripped to shreds and his "victory" is very fleeting.
Keep checking GOP .. you'll find a Boat Load of lies that came out of Kerry's mouth
It is easy to win a debate when you lie. President Bush can not do that. He is ahead in the polls he has to be very carefull.
Thanks for posting this. You Sir, are a good soldier in this war against the left!
I will tomorrow.........I'm going to bed...........
Hello, Kerry offered to give the Iranian Mullah nuclear fuel and technology!!!!!! Anybody???? Hello??? Can you say Kim Jong Il?? A country that took Americans hostage is going to be getting nuclear fuel and technology from US??? Lord help us.
I agree. I hope you're right, but Kerry was very slick tonight, and Bush seemed a little tired.
Add this to the pot: Brian Williams no less says that the number Kerry uses on Iraq, $200,000,000 is WRONG; it is $119,000,000.
The post analysis of the debate is not going to reflect well on Kerry.
Bush needed to get across the message that Saddam was harboring terrorist and sponsoring terrorism and that he was more vital to the war on terror than Osama bin Laden.
He isn't doing it. So we need to do it.
Here is an easy to read chart of what the media was saying pre-911 (and after): Connect the Dots...Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Send it to your friends and family. And the media.
Ketchupman's memory equals Bubba's and the Hildebeast's.
Brian Williams said that? Wow. Just wow.
Kerry said that there was a difference between opposing the war and the warrior. And he implied that he could support the warrior without supporting the war. But au contraire, Kerry was against the war in Vietnam and came home and attacked the warriors. That quote should be used in future swift boat ads.
Bush missed the opportunity for a knockout punch when Kerry said he didn't express himself well on the $87B vote, but what's important is that he got the vote right...
Bush should have said "So you still think voting against the troops was the right thing?"
Bush's expresions, which were not supposed to be shown, made him look like Algore in 2000.
That is nothing new.
John Kery lies in his sleep.
John Kerry is a democrat. All democrats have liarites.
They cannot help it. If the deocto told them the next lie they told would kill them, they would not make it out of the examinating room alive.
John Kerry started off lying and finished lying.
Why the Republicans agreed on this moderator is beyond my powers of comprension.
Kerry was lying on almost every question, making up the facts as they suited his argument.
Did anyone other than myself catch it when Kerry said the president forced General Shinstinky to retire, when even the MSM admitted that was untrue?
And this is news? Isn't lying part of being a Democrat? Tell me you're not surprised!
Kerry supporters rejoice at the news of every American death, and they cry crocodile tears in front of the news cameras - but by their words and their deeds they are directly responsible for the deaths of American soldiers.
The Islamists are feeding off the words of Kerry, Kennedy, Lockhart, Rather, Matthews, Sharpton, and they are feeding off the demonstrations of the so-called "peace protesters."
These bastards are coming to Arlington National Cemetery on Saturday, to mock American values, to degrade American soldiers, and to desecrate the sacred ground where 200+ years of American heroes are buried.
If you are anywhere near DC on Saturday, please consider coming to defend the honor of our country's war dead and defend our country's honor against the anti-American blood dancers.
Kerry lies like O.J. Simpson. "Not guilty 1000 per cent." "Seared, SEARED in my memory." "Never, EVER used the harshest word."
Well, how about citing "nuclear proliferation" as the number one issue facing this country?
Kerry prattled on about North Korea's development of nuclear weapons and focused solely on this.
Then -- and ONLY THEN -- after President Bush identifies "weapons of mass destruction" and their presence in the hands of terrorists, Kerry on rebuttal repeats "nuclear proliferation", and quickly tosses in "weapons of mass destruction", which would, of course also include biological and chemical weapons.
Folks, if this guy gets elected, the US is a sitting duck while he's trying to figure out what comb to use to part his hair that morning.
What is really funny is the dem line for about a week now, and Holbrook was just on Fox with this, is Kerry has always had one position. I mean com'on. Do these people think I get my news by pony express!
It's easy to wax eloquent when all you have are words. (Ted Bundy was quite eloquent, for that matter. As was Hitler!)
The President, on the other hand, is a passionate man of action - a good man. That speaks louder than any words ever vomiting out of Kerry's mouth.
Tommy Franks on Fox now saying Kerry was flat out WRONG that resources were diverted from Afganistan to Iraq, He said thet when Iraq operations were getting ready to start, there were 9,500 troops in Afganistan and it steadily went up to over 12,000 while Iraq was going on.
Can I have a ReWrite?
President Bush can not do that. He is
ahead in the pollsa Republican that is not a liberal, so he has to be very careful l.
Yes I know .. add that to Kerry's list
Tomorrow Kerry's comments in tonights debate will be ripped apart
Kerry lied all over the place. He should have been asked if there was anything more to his platform than bashing Bush. I was let down by the way the people on FOX let Kerry get by with the lies. Big one was the fact that Kerry did call Bush a liar and then lied and said he didn't say it.
That would be the fence position?
Yeah... I looked to a friend and said, "did he say he wants to give nuclear fuel to Iran?" WTF?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
It's a play out of the Clinton Play book .. say it enough times in hopes that people will believe it
Besides going four times by my count to the well to remind us idiots that he served in Vietnam, Kerry dwelled on his rhetorical, "I have a plan...."
Yeah, that's the one...with a picket up his @ss, blindingly white teeth, and that big ole pumpkin head!
Kerry is toast! His reference to the Iraq war as a "grand diversion", his emphasis on passing a "Global Test" with the world will not go well with Americans!
Can't wait for Rush, Sean to shred him to pieces!
FOUR MORE YEARS!!!
That one raised a huge noise at our Debate Watch gathering this evening.
Nuclear fuel to the Mullahs of Iran.
Gee, that sounds like a peace proposal to me. < /sarcasm>
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