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Well, Mr. Kerry, Are Americans Dying in Iraq for a Mistake? (Flip-Flop Alert)
Presidential Debate ^ | Oct. 1, 2004 | John "Flip-Flop" Kerry

Posted on 10/01/2004 12:10:04 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

KERRY: Well, you know, when I talked about the $87 billion, I made a mistake in how I talk about the war. But the president made a mistake in invading Iraq. Which is worse?

I believe that when you know something's going wrong, you make it right. That's what I learned in Vietnam. When I came back from that war I saw that it was wrong. Some people don't like the fact that I stood up to say no, but I did. And that's what I did with that vote. And I'm going to lead those troops to victory.

LEHRER: All right, new question. Two minutes, Senator Kerry.

Speaking of Vietnam, you spoke to Congress in 1971, after you came back from Vietnam, and you said, quote, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

LEHRER: Are Americans now dying in Iraq for a mistake?

KERRY: No, and they don't have to, providing we have the leadership that we put -- that I'm offering.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; election2004; firstdebate; flipflop; kerry; kerryiraq

1 posted on 10/01/2004 12:10:05 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

I have already posted this exchange in two different threads. :)


2 posted on 10/01/2004 12:14:35 AM PDT by kesg
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To: West Coast Conservative

In the same debate. This is why I'm not really worried about any lackluster performance from the President. Kerry's all over the map. Anyone paying attention would notice that. Bush was consistent.


3 posted on 10/01/2004 12:16:42 AM PDT by mbennett203
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KERRY: Well, you know, when I talked about the $87 billion, I made a mistake in how I talk about the war. But the president made a mistake in invading Iraq. Which is worse?

No, Senator. The mistake is not how you talked. The mistake was how you voted.
So let's rephrase your great line:
"I voted not to support our troops during a time of war, and I think the President made a mistake in going to war, though I told Diane Sawyer it really depends on the outcome. Which is worse?


4 posted on 10/01/2004 12:36:23 AM PDT by Tim716 (Maine)
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His "passing the test" was what infuriated me.

We spent months trying to appease Europe's finicky attitude. We spent months trying to do everything to their liking, and at the end, France and Germany pretty much said "well, there's nothing you can say to make us act differently. Maybe if you gave us some contracts...?". They would have them if they just went along. We probably wouldn't even have pressed the issue of them being on the take from Saddam. Because they decided to be hard-headed about it (a term America is frequently accused of being), they're in a worse position than if they had just went along. Sounds more like we tried to be reasonable, but two crazy countries thought they had a right to get money for stopping illegal activities that they got money for. Doesn't work that way.

His promise to "hold a conference" about it was lame. What more is there to talk about? We're not going to reward countries for bad behavior, and they're not sending troops no matter what. We have nothing to discuss. Why would they send troops to something Kerry himself says is a quagmire situation (a point Bush nailed him on)? If swing voters are paying attention, that should've made a light go off in their heads.

5 posted on 10/01/2004 1:13:26 AM PDT by mbennett203
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Definitely! France, Germany and Russia wanted some compensation for all the oil for food money they were going to lose. They didn't want that gravy train to leave the station. Blood sucking hypocrites.
6 posted on 10/01/2004 2:24:01 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: mbennett203
This debate was about Kerry trolling for voters without brains...or concerned with Kerry's actual record on any issue..

It was about shallow image only....how he looked and how he sounded...his inflection..pronunciation, confidence....

Kerry confidently told outright lies and presented misinformation as well as made mistakes
(Treblinka Square in Russia?....Treblinka was a Nazi death camp in Poland)

GW Bush is a man with a heart for the people of his country...his visits with Floridians suffering great personal losses as a result of hurricanes tornadoes and flooding the last few weeks..took a lot of GW...

Peoples suffering hurts GW he is a man who empathizes with people...and this then drives him to find solutions to their problems...

Pres Bush is a servant of the people as well as a great leader...and a great war chief..

He was tired but felt the people of Florida more worthy of his attention than the debate with Kerry...

Kerry ..who had the same opportunity to visit with Floridians was more interested in getting coiffed and perfumed and groomed prepared for the superficiality of the debate....

But then superficiality is what Kerry is all about all suit and no heart...

imo
7 posted on 10/01/2004 3:49:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Ask me about my latest book..... "Ventriloquism for Dummies")
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To: mbennett203
In the same debate. This is why I'm not really worried about any lackluster performance from the President. Kerry's all over the map. Anyone paying attention would notice that. Bush was consistent.

That's EXACTLY how I see it.

8 posted on 10/01/2004 4:24:04 AM PDT by Huck ("Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an air force." --P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: West Coast Conservative

How can anyone say Kerry won anything? The guys an idiot and his words prove it.


9 posted on 10/01/2004 4:33:35 AM PDT by Musket
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