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1 posted on 10/01/2004 8:07:39 AM PDT by FlyLow
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To: FlyLow

Yeah, Hitler used to swoon the masses, too. Doesn't mean either one of them, Kerry or Hitler, told the truth. Just hypnotic speakers to the unwashed. Bush is a real man. I prefer a real Texas man like George.


2 posted on 10/01/2004 8:09:15 AM PDT by buffyt (You don't create terrorists by fighting back. You defeat the terrorists by fighting back. ~GWBush~)
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To: FlyLow

Kerry didn't win. All he did was NOT embarrass himself too badly. His "hand jive" made it almost impossible to follow what he was saying.


3 posted on 10/01/2004 8:09:42 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........So many vanities.................so little bandwidth............)
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To: FlyLow

Kerry doesn't know crap. All he did was spout out some well-polished BS. Bush may not be the best speaker, but he had substance.

Bush is like Reagan in several respects. Reagan was also a "slow starter" at times. He lost the first debate with Mondale in '84 but in the second debate, whooped Mondale's behind with "I will not make age an issue in this campaign. I'm not going to exploit for political purposes my opponents youth and inexperience." Classic line and we know how that election turned out.


4 posted on 10/01/2004 8:10:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
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To: FlyLow

Yes, well, there's trouble in River City, yes, right here in River City....


5 posted on 10/01/2004 8:10:28 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: FlyLow

I heard Joe Trippi on the radio say that no unbiased voter would conclude that Bush won. I thought unbiased and Joe Trippi should never be in the same sentence. He, however, did not predict that Kerry could ride this to victory.


6 posted on 10/01/2004 8:10:40 AM PDT by KJacob (God's purpose is never the same as man's purpose.)
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To: FlyLow

The MSM is trying to drum up ratings for the next debates. Remember when they MSM was having orgasms over the fact Gore won such and such a debate?

The MSM totall skipped over the zingers that Bush Gave Kerry.

Rush Limbaugh is going to be a MUST LISTEN RADIO today.


7 posted on 10/01/2004 8:11:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: FlyLow

The media will find some way to "shape coverage in Kerry's favor" no matter what. Nothing new, really, except that they still think they can get away with it in the era of New Media.


9 posted on 10/01/2004 8:14:02 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: FlyLow

The stock market is up strongly today. That tells me that Bush won the debate.


10 posted on 10/01/2004 8:15:17 AM PDT by Number_Cruncher
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To: FlyLow

Kerry's responses were riddled with non-truths, inconsistancies, and at least 2 gaffes(1 being a major one, IMO). BUT, it all came off very elloquently. Bush on the otherhand, made excellent points but stammered around them. Not pretty. We'll see what the public has to say about it. Wednesday latest we should know. My guess is that the race will tighten slightly but by mid Oct, it will be Bush with 6-8pnt lead again.


11 posted on 10/01/2004 8:16:51 AM PDT by mlbford2 ("What self respecting man wears Spandex?" -- Zell Miller)
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To: FlyLow
In these dueling infomercials you may have a clear winner and loser. I doubt it though because I doubt they will change a single vote. I heard on the news or read somewhere of a brain dead woman last night that said with relief, "Now I know that Kerry won't be soft on terrorists."

Is there a functioning adult who thinks she wouldn't have voted for Kerry anyway, assuming she can locate her polling place?

12 posted on 10/01/2004 8:18:08 AM PDT by stevem
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To: FlyLow

Close race...good for ratings. Sells papers. Etc.


15 posted on 10/01/2004 8:19:46 AM PDT by Huck ("Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an air force." --P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: FlyLow

Kerry didn't win, he simply postponed W. "clinching" the elction before the (campaign) regular season is over.


17 posted on 10/01/2004 8:21:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: FlyLow

I was stuck watching the debates on cnn, I noticed at the end of the debate, cnn would not show footage of the the president with his family.
the only clips they showed where when the first lady kind of put her arm around teraaaaza and when John Kerry shook hands with the pres.
The remaining shots where of Kerry and his sugarmama, is the M.S.M afraid of showing bush standing next to his family?


20 posted on 10/01/2004 8:23:50 AM PDT by justin-garrett
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To: FlyLow

According to everyone I have spoken with this morning, there was no clear "winner" to the debate.

It seemed to me to be nothing more than a forum for stating both sides talking points that we have all heard repeatedly over the months.

It does not seem that this debate will change the mind of many voters at all in my opinion.


28 posted on 10/01/2004 8:27:20 AM PDT by Pox
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To: FlyLow

You could have bet the ranch on it!


30 posted on 10/01/2004 8:28:10 AM PDT by joyful1
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To: FlyLow

TV is ALL about STYLE. The media culture is so self-absorbed that style (eg--haircuts, hand gestures, number of times 'um' or 'er' was said) is always important.

The only thing missing from the debate was Reactive-crowd-screaming, which is another TV media staple.

The bigger thing is--media is never satiatied. So after killing the current topic to death, they will eagerly move on to the next choice piece of meat, and rip that one apart.


31 posted on 10/01/2004 8:30:56 AM PDT by jolie560
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To: FlyLow
The TV Analysts and talking heads don't know squat - Kerry lost.

And he lost because my apolitical 'security mom' wife went absolutely ballistic with Kerry's constant blathering about 'Diplomacy', 'Talking' and the 'International Community' when people are trying to kill us all.

And when I explained Kerry's 'Global Test' to her after the debate, she had to words about Kerry;

"A$$ Hole!

So I know that there must be a few million other previously "undecided security moms" that will now be voting for Dubya.

36 posted on 10/01/2004 8:47:13 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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"...On the NBC Nightly News, Campbell Brown passed along pablum from Jimmy Carter as she noted how he predicted a repeat of 2000 because "Florida's top election officials favor President Bush. One example, he argues, they've tried to keep some minorities, more likely to vote Democratic, off the rolls." ..."

I think I despise Jimmah Cahtah more than any other politician, past or future, and more even than the most partisan RAT fringe dwellers. Michael Moore even comes out above Cahtah, since I don't equate an individual citizen with a (former) POTUS. How did this nation ever elect a man who so despises his own country?


38 posted on 10/01/2004 8:52:38 AM PDT by jim35 (Jimmy Carter- the first antiAmerican POTUS. Don't let Kerry become the second.)
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To: FlyLow

Yeah. This is going to be a very ugly media campaign. Let us not forget who the MSM really are, not the friends they pretend to be.


46 posted on 10/01/2004 9:19:12 AM PDT by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: FlyLow
"Joe Scarborough: "He didn't clarify the Iraq point but I will tell you this, it was John Kerry's best performance ever."

And Scarborough also thought Kerry's speech at the DNC was his best speech ever.

47 posted on 10/01/2004 10:25:18 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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