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To: fire_eye
There are significant implications for all of the entitlements that American Indians now get, if it can be proven that they are not the original inhabitants. A good lawyer could make hay out of it.

Really? You honestly think a set of 9300 year old bones will make any difference whatsoever to legally-binding treaties this nation has made with the various tribes? Oooookay.

Consider this... their entitlements are entirely based on race.

Ummm. No. They are based on specific agreements between governments - The U.S. Government, and the Tribal government - what are called "Treaties".

If they are found to have derived from Caucasian as well as Mongol or other sources, the proper court case could "Jeopardize their Satanding"...

Ummm... Maybe you havn't paid much attention, but it has long been theorized that some American Indian peoples were decended from prehistoric people who came from what is now Europe - at least one wave of migration, in addition to the man others from Asia... And that changed things how, exactly? hmmm?

after all, nobody has yet managed to deicide whether someone who is half Jewish is really Jewish or German OOPS EXCUSE ME... Wrong National-Socialist country here - I meant to say, whether someone who is half Black is really Black or American... Or rather, actually what I'm trying to say is -

Ok... ya lost me with the weird nazi-referencing stuff...

I think I better shut up now

Well, at least until you have a single clue what you are speaking about, I'd have to agree.

44 posted on 10/01/2004 10:22:12 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (How do you ask a hamster to be the last hamster to die for a mistake?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

What exactly constitutes a "Tribe", if not a group of people related by genetic inheritance?

What binds the Government's agreements - however old - with the "Tribal Government" to which you refer, and thereby to an individual as a member of a "Tribe", other than that person's genetic makeup or blood relationship to other members of the "Tribe"?

A lawyer can pick these things apart... and if today's European "invaders" are in fact linked by blood relationship to today's American Indians, as a result of ancient migrations from Europe, it drives a wedge - to the extent that legal claims to entitlement are based on blood relationships - into the the argument that only today's "Tribes" are entitled to the portion of your paycheck that the US Government is handing over to them.

(For what it's worth, I didn't invent these arguments; I read them somewhere, and have *no* recollection of where...).

If you would take the time to study the origins of Hitler's "Rassenpolitik", and of the mission of Himmler's "Office or Race and Resettlement", you would find that discrimination by birth and by by race, and the equating of race with culture and predestination, is one of the foundations of Nazi philosophy, and is advocated and practiced in nearly identical form by today's Lieberals - all in the name of "equality" and "justice", of course.


56 posted on 10/02/2004 1:31:26 AM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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