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Bush, Kerry the latest to 'run' for president (But did Kerry really run the Boston Marathon?)
Philly Burbs.com ^ | September 30, 2004 | Wayne Fish

Posted on 10/01/2004 7:18:05 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John

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To: kabar

You are a serious runner. The sport was looser, the Boston Marathon was looser, less formal in the 1970s. Many ran unofficially who couldn't make the cut to qualify as a registered runner. Kerry could have been one of them, not that I place trust in anything he says.


21 posted on 10/01/2004 8:20:31 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

QUALIFYING TIMES*
AGE GROUP MEN WOMEN

18-34 3hrs 10min 3hrs 40min
35-39 3hrs 15min 3hrs 45min
40-44 3hrs 20min 3hrs 50min
45-49 3hrs 30min 4hrs 00min
50-54 3hrs 35min 4hrs 05min
55-59 3hrs 45min 4hrs 15min
60-64 4hrs 00min 4hrs 30min
65-69 4hrs 15min 4hrs 45min
70-74 4hrs 30min 5hrs 00min
75-79 4hrs 45min 5hrs 15min
80 and over 5hrs 00min 5hrs 30min
*An additional 59 seconds will be accepted for each age group time standard. For example, a net time of 3:50:59 will be accepted for a 42-year old woman.


22 posted on 10/01/2004 8:20:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Post #22 are the qualifying times for the 2005 Boston Marathon.


23 posted on 10/01/2004 8:23:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
The qualifying times also vary by age. Three hours would be for the elite or younger crowd. I believe the Masters qualifying was 3:30

The qualifying standards were tougher when Kerry "qualified" for his Boston Marathon in the late 1970s. There still pretty tough, according the the Boston Athletic Association site. For the 2005 Boston Marathon, male runners have to be 45 years-old to slip in with a 3:30 qualifying time. And Kerry, as I mentioned in a previous post, turned 35 in 1979. (And if you believe his biography, he was working 25 hour days in the DA's office while also training for marathons in the late '70s.)

24 posted on 10/01/2004 8:26:32 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Running is by far the BEST thing any individual can do. Running just a few days a week gives you so much more motivation and energy to do things. Compare any runner vs a non runner and i would place money that the runner accomplishes far more and is more productive with their time.

That being said. I don't think I can every run a marathon. I mean damn, I hate running. I cap myself at 5 miles.


25 posted on 10/01/2004 8:31:28 PM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Hey, I was living on Beacon Street in Brookline. They ran right past my front door

I was there. I never saw him. Believe me, after trashing the troops on TV and making me spit, I would have recognized him.

Can I do a commercial for the "Massachussettsians For Truth" 527 now?

26 posted on 10/01/2004 8:32:22 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kerry: He began by trashing the VN Vets. He ends by trashing the NG. Such class is rarely seen.)
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The qualifying standards were tougher when Kerry "qualified" for his Boston Marathon in the late 1970s

Not so. See my post #6. You just had to show that you could run the marathon in less than four hours. As the Marathons get bigger, more restrictive qualifying standards are developed. The organizers try to restrict the numbers for a variety of reasons, particularly logistical. Even the Marine Corps Marathon in DC is done through a lottery system.

27 posted on 10/01/2004 8:33:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Every few years someone runs part of the race, hops onto a street car or subway or the T and rides and then crosses the finish line.

I would expect that JF'ingK would have had someone with a video camera taking pictures of him for posterity or at least of his posterior.


28 posted on 10/01/2004 8:44:18 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: kabar
Not so. See my post #6. You just had to show that you could run the marathon in less than four hours. As the Marathons get bigger, more restrictive qualifying standards are developed. The organizers try to restrict the numbers for a variety of reasons, particularly logistical. Even the Marine Corps Marathon in DC is done through a lottery system.

Found this book in a storage box, took a while to find it...From Hal Higdon's "Boston: A Century of Running":

1975-1979, Men's qualifying time, 3:00.
In 1980, That was dropped to 2:50.

Kerry's "Marathon Experience" took place at the peak of the running boom. The standards from 1970 on got tougher and tougher, only to be gently relaxed, make that very gently relaxed, since.

29 posted on 10/01/2004 8:51:41 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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He knows his time. Don't let him fool you with that "can't remember" act. Nixon sent him to run in the Boston Marathon. sKerry was working for the CIA long after he left Viet Nam--on Nixon's orders. Not only did he run the marathon, but he was holding back and not running as fast as he really could. He had to run slower so that the other CIA agents accompanying him on the Boston Marathon SpecOP could keep up. Nixon told him not to call attention to his SpecOP by doing something stupid like winning the race or something like that. sKerry knows full well what his race time was. That time is SEARED into his memory. He has vivid memories of that time each time he dons his CIA Secret Agent hat.
30 posted on 10/01/2004 8:59:25 PM PDT by Conservative Infidel
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Well, not that you've put it into perspective, you're right. But wasn't The Gong Show's Chuck Barris (a major 1970s icon) one of those CIA agents? I'm sure he was.
31 posted on 10/01/2004 9:22:53 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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Even some Democrats may wish his biggest running achievement--the Boston Marathon--was backed up by some solid documentation. "

I ran Boston in the early 80's. I remember my qualifying race and time (Jersey Shore Marathon, 2:48:45) my finish place and time at Boston (2257 of 6664 in 2:56:59)and still have the finisher medal you only get by crossing the finish line. I'm sure that finisher lists are archived somewhere; maybe I'll google one up to cross check my memory!

If Kerry did run, he's on a list unless he ran "bandit" (unregistered).

32 posted on 10/01/2004 9:23:44 PM PDT by JimRed (Kerry for President... of FRANCE!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Found this book in a storage box, took a while to find it...From Hal Higdon's "Boston: A Century of Running": 1975-1979, Men's qualifying time, 3:00. In 1980, That was dropped to 2:50.

I find that hard to believe that that standard applied to all runners regardless of age or sex. Women were allowed to run in the race in 1972. Nina Kissick won with a time of 3:10. In 1975 there were 2,395 entrants, which grew to 7,897 in 1979. There is no way that a blanket qualifying time of 3:00 could be applied and have that many runners in a field, which had women and older runners. In 1975 a German woman, Liane Winter, won with a women's world record time of 2:42.

In 1979 the Boston Marathon had a record of 3,031 runners breaking 3:00, which means that 4,861 finished above three hours. There is no way that a qualifying time of three hours could have been used to screen all entrants. 1980 was the famous Rosie Ruiz race. There were only 5,471 entrants, which could explain a tightening of qualifying times for the elite runners to 2:50. Higdon must have refering only to a certain male class of runners and not the entire field in terms of a qualifying time.

33 posted on 10/02/2004 4:06:46 PM PDT by kabar
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Perhaps. But again, for the '05 race, someone who is 36 needs a 3:15 qualifying marathon. That's a 7:30 minute per mile pace, pretty darn fast for a big-boned 6'4" guy.

Kerry turned 36 in 1980. What 26.2 mile race did Kerry qualify in to get accepted into the Boston Marathon? And why is he so evasive on what year he ran it it, and what his time was. As a prior poster chimed in, it just doesn't smell right. Also, during this time period, Kerry, if I'm not mistaken, was the number 2 at the Boston's DA office. (Not sure of the exact jurisdiction). The local press might've mentioned something about his marathon ru at the time. And he was a two-time congressional candidate, plus the VVAW stuff...Hard to believe he slipped under the radar, since even then he was a celebrity of sorts....

34 posted on 10/02/2004 4:34:08 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

You are preaching to the choir. John Kerry never ran the Boston Marathon.


35 posted on 10/02/2004 6:33:43 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Agreed.


36 posted on 10/02/2004 6:46:18 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Kerry was following Rosie Ruiz in the 1980 Boston Marathon before he learned that she wasn't rich.


37 posted on 10/02/2004 6:59:42 PM PDT by jackbill
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