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Drudge: DEBATE MYSTERY: DID KERRY HAVE CHEAT SHEET?
Drudge ^ | October 3, 2004 | Video

Posted on 10/03/2004 11:09:24 AM PDT by stockpirate

Edited on 10/03/2004 12:01:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Destro
Ethics is not an "angle". The ethics of a SLIMEBALL CHEAT is not changed by "who won".

As stated in my earlier and other's postings the Bush campaign has no say in what anti-Kerry people "push". ( Check Swiftvet issue and forged TANG memo history.)

And if you're going to be a conservative or even a true independent, stop reasoning like a liberal!
Principles decide...not appearances and tactics! Character DOES matter...and who is a better debater is insignificant in comparison!

1,201 posted on 10/04/2004 6:11:08 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Muzzle_em
I watched it and I believe it was a pen.

Which link did you watch?

1,202 posted on 10/04/2004 6:18:08 AM PDT by TaxRelief (The homogeneity of agreement is self-defeating in its monotony.)
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To: igoramus987

That's the white pen, actually.


1,203 posted on 10/04/2004 6:19:11 AM PDT by TaxRelief (The homogeneity of agreement is self-defeating in its monotony.)
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To: slag

I thought that also, but he probably hid them in the paper they were given for writing notes.


1,204 posted on 10/04/2004 6:19:51 AM PDT by Old anti feminist
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To: drpix

So true. Kerry's obvious cheating is a distinctly separate issue from who won or lost the debate. Cheaters need to be exposed even if they're losers. It just adds insult to injury if through their cheating they beat someone who was on the level.


1,205 posted on 10/04/2004 6:22:33 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: HannaUSA

Oh, right, you are on the dry side! LOL Love it over there!


1,206 posted on 10/04/2004 6:26:21 AM PDT by Libertina (10 Little Lying MSM Networks. CBS went down, and soon there'll be none!)
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To: Nakatu X

Hope Rush and Hannity get after this today before it blows away.


1,207 posted on 10/04/2004 6:30:07 AM PDT by Old anti feminist
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To: stockpirate

Even if Kerry cheated, Bush's performance was IMHO a disaster.

"hard work", For peets aske how many months did it take him to memorize that? He let Kerry lie like a rug and failed to call him on almost all of them.

Bush had better be on his game come the next one, His performance didn't show much "I want the Job" to me. If he wants to be President for the next 4 years he'd best start fighting for it. That includes rubbing Kerry's nose in his flip flops, his smears, lies and outright deciet on both His record in the Senate and his activities after he came back from Vietnam. Kerry actually used his anti-war BS to kick the President. Bush just stood there and took it.

I was really disappointed in his resonses to questions and his reactions to Kerry's attacks. It's like he was in a coma or something. I swear I thought I was watching his dad. This is hand to hand combat and someone best inform the President that to the masses Bush got his ass handed to him.

Note to George, You'ld better find your nads between now and the next debate or your gonna loose. Those Independant voters don't like a eunuch and that is what you looked like last week.

This looks to me like the Work of Mary Matlin.
Someone better wise up and fire her. She has NEVER been of
any use other than for a LOOSING cause.


1,208 posted on 10/04/2004 6:30:47 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: Old anti feminist

"Hope Rush and Hannity get after this today before it blows away."

Me too!

Ankarlo Mornings Just mentioned it. He said there was talk of Kerry having cheat sheets, but went no further.

I guess Ankarlo didn't get the memo that it was "just a black pen" or maybe he got it and didn't choose to drink the Koolaid
http://www.klif.com/listen.html


1,209 posted on 10/04/2004 6:36:44 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: drpix

And if you're going to be a conservative or even a true independent, stop reasoning like a liberal!
Principles decide...not appearances and tactics! Character DOES matter...and who is a better debater is insignificant in comparison!


1,201 posted on 10/04/2004 6:11:08 AM PDT by drpix
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Got news for you, what you and I think in imaterial in this election. We decide and cast our ballots. The masses are another thing all together.

Slick Willy was elected and re-elected because a large portion of Amercan women thought he was attractive. JFK was the same.

Kerry is slick. His attack was impressive if one didn't know that he was lieing thru his teeth. But most voters don't investigate enough to find that out. Bush was terrible at pointing it out. He let way to many attacks go without responding.

So being a better debater does make a difference. Bush better bring his A game next time out of the box or he may very well be a one term President.


1,210 posted on 10/04/2004 6:44:00 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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Ankarlo Mornings Just mentioned it. He said there was talk of Kerry having cheat sheets, but went no further.

I guess Ankarlo didn't get the memo that it was "just a black pen" or maybe he got it and didn't choose to drink the Koolaid
http://www.klif.com/listen.html


CORRECTION
Sorry, It was Glenn Beck not Ankarlo


1,211 posted on 10/04/2004 6:46:38 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: Area51
I do think the cheating/character issue is worth a fight on its own (and not by the Bush camp but by the alternate media). But here's a link to an article from prior to the debate (9/29) by Linda Chavez giving Bush the same advice you suspect Matlin gave him. Chavez says,"the less the president engages in arguing with or directly attacking his opponent, the better off he'll be."

"Returning the President's Favor"

Remember, Chavez was Bush's pick for Labor Secretary before she got knocked out by an illegal alien domestic scandal. She quotes Bush from that time giving her "rope-a-dope" advise for a confirmation hearing. You gotta hope they know the difference between a confirmation hearing and a debate - irrespective of the show your soft side for the women stuff.
1,212 posted on 10/04/2004 6:53:39 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Drango
(Yawnnnnnnn. I don't care if he cheated or not. It's a non issue and it's nit pickin'. Kerry has far more serious flaws than this.)

Devil is in the details - same for one;s character.

This 'detail' is big; and it personnifies and magnifies the traits morst abhorrent in John Kerry; and it is those traits that should render him unfit for the most powerful position in the world. . .America's 'little Oval office'

1,213 posted on 10/04/2004 7:25:58 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Nakatu X

That is exactly what it looks like to me. It may or may not be a pen in his right hand, but he clearly already has SOMETHING in his right hand AS he is reaching into his right breast pocket.


1,214 posted on 10/04/2004 7:30:56 AM PDT by HannaUSA (One American that is dang sick of the lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Drango

I guess you are correct, lying,cheating and stealing is now advocated in America. America will get just what she deserves.


1,215 posted on 10/04/2004 7:35:50 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: drpix

It is called rhetoric - it is a tool to figure out if your argument can hold water. I posted a rhetorical point.


1,216 posted on 10/04/2004 7:49:22 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Drango
What a non issue

What's a non issue?

1,217 posted on 10/04/2004 7:54:30 AM PDT by sevry
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To: Destro

"Rhetoric"...my mistake! I assumed you were being sincere rather than deceptive. ( You must get along better with Democrats. They are big on rhetoric, aren't they? )


1,218 posted on 10/04/2004 8:04:02 AM PDT by drpix
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To: HannaUSA

Another interesting detail. Kerry Camp says the pen was black but on the video he can be seen using a white pen during the debabe


1,219 posted on 10/04/2004 8:05:23 AM PDT by TurtleStink
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To: drpix

It is clear to me you have no clue what rhetoric is. But then again the Left Wingers have removed classical education from our public schools because they hate Dead White males who gave us the foundations of Western Civilization and have done such a good job of it that so called conservatives on a conservative web site have no idea they are slamming their own intellectual classical legacy.


1,220 posted on 10/04/2004 8:20:54 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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