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To: Hoplite
Elected Slobodan Milosevic and then didn't have the common sense to kick him out before he got them bombed.

Right, but here are some facts:
1. Slobodan Milosevic wasn't elected, but appointed at the time of NATO aggression.
2. His position has been jeopardized many times, let's just mention March the 9th, '91., spring of '93., fall/winter of '96/'97., April '98., etc. So, once before the shooting actually started, and once during the war itself. And at least two times before Kosovo. I can't remember Tudjman and/or Izetbegovic having a similar experience. Oh yeah, and remember how he got through the '96/'97 crisis? Dick Holbrooke and "factor of peace and stability in the region"?
3. One man couldn't start a war by himself, nor could one man be an excuse to go to war, regardless how evil or "evil" he is.
4. Now that you mentioned it, "elected" you say? Like in democracy? IIRC you once said (quoted, actually) "democracies don't wage wars on other democracies". So which shall it be, elected or self-appointed?

The RTS tower, if you'll remember, has the distinction of being one of the targets we notified the Serbs of in advance

By whom? Jamie Shea and his famous nine o'clock hit list?

which is why there have been lawsuits in Serbia where the relatives of the dead have sued the management who were notified of the impending strike but ordered the employees to go to work anyway.

And which were dismissed. I believe they filed one at EU court after that.

Dragoljub Milanovic, the director of RTS during Allied Force, was found guilty by a Serbian district court in 2002 of intentionally placing low-level employees at risk in an effort to increase the number of civilian casualties and discredit NATO.

Not exactly, he was charged with general disregard of safety regulations involving wartime and federal property, not that particular incident.
Also, it's the same legal system that dropped charges against Nato leaders. Not much of an independent court, right? Dancing to the music of powers that be.
Oh yeah, in an unrelated event, after Milanovic got sentenced, MPAA decided not to press charges against RTS and other state-owned media (TV stations) for severe copyright infringements.
But let's put it aside. NATO had no right to bomb RTS building, end of story. Whether it warned them in advance or not is irrelevant. Osama and his cronies talked about bringing war to American soil for years. So, can we conclude that they're not responsible for 9/11 simply because they warned in advance?
But leave it to the courts to decide. As you may know, relatives of the killed also sued several NATO countries before their very own courts.

How lucky for them they're not destabilizing Southern Europe, like Milosevic was...

He wasn't. Dick Holbrooke said so (see above). Or you think you're smarter than Dick?

Sarajevo: It was a Civil War, nothing more, nothing less. Painting the issue as a religious conflict is blatantly stupid.

Perhaps, but society has been divided along religious lines. Therefore, one could say that it was a religious conflict. You had muslims ("Bosniacks"), catholics (Croats), and orthodox chrs. (Serbs) fighting each other, one against other two. Also, Albanians are muslim. Actually, there were some nonreligious moments during the conflict, such as Fikret Avdic and his men (Bosnian muslims) fighting along Serbs vs. Izetbegovic's Bosnian muslims and Croats. And in Kosovo, it was pretty much Albanians vs. everyone else, regardless of their ethnic or religious background.

25 posted on 10/04/2004 9:13:13 AM PDT by Marko37
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To: Marko37
Do you have a point in regards to Slobo?

He only had to win his first election fair and square - if he manipulated the system and used outright fraud to stay in power after that point that's nobody's fault but the electorate who put up with it.

In the end, the ICTY sided with NATO and did not order further investigation of the RTS bombing. Yet the fallout from targeting the Serbian media continues. In one development that bolsters the ICTY’s decision, former RTS director Dragoljub Milanovic was convicted of creating a " grave danger to public security " by failing to evacuate all employees from RTS headquarters. After hearing testimony that Serbian officials were warned of the attack in advance and that government officials had signed an order to evacuate countermanded by the RTS director, the court found Milanovic guilty and sentenced him to 10 years in jail.
Source

There was a Serbian Lawyer who had taken the case for the families of the RTS victims - Slobodan Sisic. How Mr. Sisic's efforts have fared since this news, I don't know.

You are entitled to your opinion as to what is and what isn't a legitimate target - we bombed State Television in Baghdad as well, so you're in for a hard sell on this one.

As to Serbia's suits against the various NATO nations, they were never anything more than a Milosevic era joke that the current government hasn't had the balls to drop - they're going nowhere.

And finally, as to my being smarter than Dick Holbrooke, if Dick is commenting upon the signing of the Dayton Accords and you're using those comments in reference to Kosovo, it's probably not either of our levels of intelligence which should be questioned, is it.

37 posted on 10/04/2004 5:28:12 PM PDT by Hoplite
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