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Killing in the Name of God: Poverty, hate turn a Palestinian youth into a suicide bomber
The Chicago Tribune ^
| October 3, 2004
| Storer H. Rowley
Posted on 10/03/2004 8:23:28 PM PDT by quidnunc
Edited on 10/03/2004 9:48:49 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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To: Happy2BMe; Travis McGee; dennisw; nopardons; sinkspur; Jeff Head; farmfriend; Darksheare; ...
Blame it on Muhammadan poverty BTTT
(((PING)))
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posted on
10/03/2004 9:27:43 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
To: American in Israel; TASMANIANRED
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posted on
10/03/2004 9:29:14 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
To: quidnunc
These people have preached hate so long to their children that it has finally taken root.
At least two generations are lost.
Hate will consume them and their masters until those who remain have had enough.
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posted on
10/03/2004 9:35:05 PM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: ApesForEvolution; F15Eagle; Salem; MeekOneGOP; Randy Rossmiller; Prime Choice; Registered; ...
Arabs Prove Islam Is a Lie
I just looked over transcripts of some Arab 'educational' material and couldn't believe what I'd read. According to Palestinian educational television, Islam is a lie based upon lies. Of course, they never actually say this, but if one extrapolates the absolute 'truths' they present, this is the only conclusion that can be drawn. Below are just some of their illogical or damning teachings (depending upon your point of view) drawn from these latest diatribes. But first, some facts:
It is undisputed fact that Islam regards Jesus as a prophet.
It is undisputed fact that Jesus was Jewish.
Let's start with something very, very basic -- something even the two esteemed historians who presented the material, Dr. Jarir Al-Qidwa, Head of the Palestinian Authority Public Library and Arafat's Advisor on Education, and Dr. Issam Sissalem, Senior Historian and Educational TV host and former head of the history department of a PA university, can understand.
According to the website Islam101:
"He (Jesus) and his followers used to worship in the temple which other Israelites used. The message of Jesus was to call people back to the religion of Abraham and Moses from which they had gone astray."
And:
"Based on the statements of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.), Muslims believe that Prophet Jesus will return to earth at a time when Muslims will be in a dire need of a leader."
And:
"The Holy Quran also gives a detailed account of the mission and lives of Jewish prophets like Moses and Zakarea (Zechariah)."
Meanwhile, both Dr. Al-Qidwa and Dr. Sissalem state that there is no such thing as Judaism nor that Jewish King Solomon's Temple existed:
Al-Qidwa: "The Temple is the fruit of their (Jewish) imagination."
If what these two 'learned' individuals claim is true, then Islam, which claims Jesus (who was a Jew) as one of their main prophets and future saviors, is based upon a lie.
At the same time, the statements of Dr. Al-Qidwa and Dr. Sissalem fly in the face of facts proven by legal expert and erstwhile Judaism researcher Dr. Nabil Hilmi, Dean of the Faculty of Law at the University of Al-Zaqaziq. In the August 9, 2003 edition of the Egyptian weekly Al-Ahram Al-Arabi, Dr. Hilmi stated that he takes as fact the Bible's account of the Exodus. In the article, he refers to "what is written in the Torah.... in Exodus, [Chapter] 35, verses 12 through 36
"
That Dr. Hilmi tried use these facts as the basis to sue every Jew on the planet for gazillions of dollars is immaterial. That he clearly stated in his interviews that he had verified the factual aspects of the Bible, even using the Egyptian police to do the detective work is significant. Dr. Hilmi has stated that the Hebrew Bible is fact, and that the Jews of today are absolutely the descendants of the Jews of yore. This alone flies in the face of what Drs. Al-Qidwa and Sissalem present:
Sissalem: "I want to point out that we should not focus much on what is called the [Biblical] Hebrew tribes, who are in fact Bedouin Arab tribes. There is no connection between them and these Khazar Jews [of Israel today]. Those [Hebrew-Arab] tribes were erased and ceased to exist and no traces were left of them..."
If nothing else, Dr. Sissalem has negated Dr. Hilmi's lawsuit against modern-day Jews by saying that we have no relationship to the Jews enslaved for hundreds of years by the Egyptians. It also implies, by extension, that if the Egyptians want to sue for return of goods ostensibly stolen from the ancient Egyptians, they should be suing the Bedouins. Unless of course, Drs. Sissalem and Al-Qidwa are wrong....
Further along, a very damning statement comes from the esteemed Dr. Sissalem: "...the Bible expresses a tradition of legends, that has no connection to history." (emphasis mine - BG)
Notice how he didn't state 'little connection,' or even 'only partial connection.' Dr. Sissalem stated very clearly the word "no". Yet, if one reads the Koran, it clearly states that Abraham settled, by God's command, in the place of what would become the Ka'ba (22, 27).
Since Dr. Sissalem stated that the Bible has "no connection to history," any mention of certain individuals and even groups from the Bible must be false. Therefore, since the Koran mentions Abraham, it must be a lie, too. The same holds true for other individuals and groups mentioned in the false piece of literature, the Bible, as well as the Koran. Such people as Ishmael and Moses, and groups such as the ancient Egyptians. Therefore, the words of Mohammed, as written down in the Koran, are based upon a lie.
This aforementioned statement even negates the rest of these learned men's arguments that the 'Palestinians' are the descendants of the Canaanites and therefore entitled to take away Israel's land from the Jewish people and claim it for their own: "...when our nation or our Canaanite forefathers came to Palestine."
Since the Canaanites are extensively written about in the Hebrew bible, according to Dr. Sissalem, there is no such thing as Canaanites, since the Bible has "no connection to history."
This means that the Palestinian claim of being the ancient Canaanites is a lie.
In essence, Drs. Al-Qidwa and Sissalem have not merely proven that the Koran is a lie, but that their very own contemporary scholars and statesmen are citing falsehoods when they quote the Koran, since it frequently mentions people and places mentioned in the Bible, which, as they will tell you, has no connection to history.
So instead of discrediting the Israel and the Jews, these two distinguished Arab experts have proven that Islam is a lie based upon lies. Bravo. Who knew you were working for us?
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posted on
10/03/2004 9:37:11 PM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(Just 31 more days until November 2nd.)
Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: Retief
OH MAN THAT IS A BRILLIANT OBSERVATION.... Nicely done. Maybe also cultures that do not value women do not value life too>?
To: ApesForEvolution
`We give you good news. The virgins of paradise are happily receiving the new groom, the martyr Ismail Maasawabi.'" What kind of sick perverted "religion" promises an eternal orgy with 72 virgins as a reward for mass murder?
ISLAM, the insane murder cult.
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posted on
10/03/2004 9:45:40 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Happy2BMe
WoW! VERY IMPRESSIVE WORK SIR/MA'AM! Where is your blog located?
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posted on
10/03/2004 9:45:44 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
To: Travis McGee
"What kind of sick perverted "religion" promises an eternal orgy with 72 virgins as a reward for mass murder?"
And, rumor has it, that it's REALLY 72 GRAPES! LOL!!
Series, what's more sick:
i. Muhammadanism gets off on blowing themselves along with women, children and innocent fathers, brothers, uncles OR
ii. Muhammadanism PRAISES their educated youth that 'martyr' themselves OR
iii. Muhammadans in MAJOR M.E. population centers announce it on loudspeakers like a 'prayer' for the little scumbag announcing his deed - and the celebrations with the ululating women that then follows?
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posted on
10/03/2004 9:53:26 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
To: quidnunc
Poverty is not the issue, this guy went to college. Rarely is a bomber poor, the only poor bombers I hear of are the women who have been caught in adultery. They are given a choice, be killed by their family in disgrace or go out as a killer with honor.
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posted on
10/03/2004 10:38:40 PM PDT
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
Comment #31 Removed by Moderator
Comment #32 Removed by Moderator
To: Thinkin' Gal
virgins of paradise / helen thomas ping.
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posted on
10/04/2004 2:52:47 AM PDT
by
cyn
(prayers always for Terri Schindler Schiavo, her family, and her friends)
To: quidnunc
Money is NEVER the problem. A vile, demented belief system that spreads corruption wherever it goes is the problem.
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posted on
10/04/2004 4:02:03 AM PDT
by
tkathy
(There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
To: quidnunc
Another left-wing lie. Poverty does not make killers. And these are not suicide bombers they are cold blooded killer bombers.
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posted on
10/04/2004 4:06:43 AM PDT
by
YOUGOTIT
To: coconutt2000
I think the world would be a lot more sympathetic to Palestinians if they were peacefully committing suicide as a protest against the injustices they experience.Or doing anything peacefully!
The simple fact is that the Israelis don't like what's going on, and the IDF hates dealing with these "uprisings." But it's been the arab nations who have kept the pressure up, in order to forment as much anger and hatred at the Jews (not just Israelis) and the west as possible. Partly for "cannon fodder," and partly to focus the anger and hatred caused by their oppressive regimes away from the arab rulers. We're talking about the richest countries in the world, not being able to help ease the suffering of "refugees." Think about that for just a minute... These "refugee camps" have been run by the UN for more than 50 years. Does anyone with the slightest bit of sense really believe that the problems of these people couldn't be solved quite easily? Of course, it doesn't help that the so called "palestinian refugees" are not wanted by any of the arab countries either.
Israel my be the only country in history that has fought all these wars, won every one of them, and given land that was captured during the wars back in an attempt to live in peace with its neighbors. And the neighbors do all that they can to vilify Israel, Jews, and the West, just short of the "Two Minutes of Hate" sessions, right out of 1984.
I believe that it was Golda Meir, the late Prime Minister of Israel, who once said, "there will never be peace, as long as they hate us more than they love their children."
Mark
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posted on
10/04/2004 4:32:36 AM PDT
by
MarkL
(Dude!!! You're farting fire!!!!)
To: jex
There are no Christian Palestinians in Ireland. In fact, there aren't ANY Christian homicide bombers - not even in Southern Sudan where the black Christian minority has been harassed, opressed and enslaved by the muslim Arabs.
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posted on
10/04/2004 10:27:55 AM PDT
by
Kurt_D
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