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Kerry Debate Cheat Sheet

Posted on 10/04/2004 9:01:32 PM PDT by core values

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To: Darkwolf377

You know that is a fake photo don't you. It's NOT a pen. Notice they dont' have it frame by frame on the site you quote...they picked a later picture and stuck it next to the other pictures....Don't be fooled.


61 posted on 10/05/2004 7:11:08 AM PDT by benice (Kerrys a cheater.....expell him.)
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To: Selkie

I looked hard at that too but it seems the white thing goes away as he turns around. i think it is just the way the light is reflecting. It is the same hand that seems to bring paper up to the podium later. But I think he brought the paper up from the storage area below. He just shook hands with Bush 10 seconds ago. Its a note from bush with a drawing of Kerry with horns on his head!


62 posted on 10/05/2004 8:04:23 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: core values; Darkwolf377; Eastbound
Big square pen?? Sorry disagree.



Look at this, the shadow is his thumb clearly holding a white card....

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63 posted on 10/05/2004 8:12:08 AM PDT by The Mayor (Scripture is meant to give us protection, correction, and direction.)
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To: benice; All
Before everyone buys the "it was just a pen spin", here's my attempt to clarify. First, this is what you are looking at:

1) I went to the FoxNews video on dailrecycler.com
2) From the full screen version, I captured 4 still frames
3) The frames were aligned.
4) Red circles were added for focus.
5) ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER ENHANCEMENTS, EFFECTS OR ALTERATIONS WERE MADE TO THE FRAMES.
6) The 4 gif frames were animated to produce the image here.

Others in FR have already observed this slight-of-hand. They have pointed out the right hand action timed with the left hand ("pen") action, but others have dismissed it. I think this animation leaves only one question:

What are you going to believe what the spinners say or your own eyes?

While most agree that the Bush camp, should not make this an issue, others should not be silenced by spin and verbal misdirection. What good is this new "alternate media", if the final decision is still left to the MSM. ( I tried viewing the 1,000 plus prior postings on this subject, and if others have done this graphic already, my apologies.)

64 posted on 10/05/2004 8:23:56 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

Well he would have had to placed that object into the right hand after shaking and holding on to President Bush's hand.

That is unless he had it in his right hand when he shook President Bush's hand....


65 posted on 10/05/2004 8:34:29 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I don't know the mechanics of misdirections, but I'm sure there are magicians out there who can tell what he's doing.


66 posted on 10/05/2004 8:37:59 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
"I don't know the mechanics of misdirections, but I'm sure there are magicians out there who can tell what he's doing."


There are some specific reasons why I believe JFKerry needed a cheat sheet.

I remember his lunatic performance at midnight in Ohio after the Republican Convention. He could have read from anything that night yet he was delusional and incoherent.

Given that and his other talks/speeches, until the supposed "foreign policy" speech in New York a couple of weeks ago JFKerry is a complete flake.

Now given his history, and the wild crazy laundry list of things he spewed forth in the supposed debate I do not believe he is able to accomplish this on his own.

JFKerry remembered to bring forth "Richard Clarke" without naming him to give himself credibility, now come on there was just too many lies, distortions, deceptions for one human to spew in a 90 minute time frame.

Then since that debate his fellow slugs have been on all the tv sound bites they can get themselves on, like Holbroke yesterday on Fox claiming that JFKerry show us his command of knowledge and President Bush could not.

I do not believe that JFKerry has the "memory" capability to remember all the strange weird lies the majority are willing to give him credit for.
67 posted on 10/05/2004 8:54:49 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: core values

Brit Hume told us it was a pen, so that's that I guess. The MSM media wouldn't touch it and now Brit has told us Fox will not either.


68 posted on 10/05/2004 9:00:09 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: core values

We all know that it is worse to accuse a Liberal for cheating than it is for the Liberal to cheat.


69 posted on 10/05/2004 9:03:38 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: TexasCajun

Brit and the rest said "pen" in LEFT hand (coming out of breast pocket of jacket). Check my animation again. It's of the RIGHT hand. That's what magician's misdirection is all about.


70 posted on 10/05/2004 9:06:50 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Just mythoughts
"Then since that debate his fellow slugs have been on all the tv sound bites they can get themselves on, like Holbroke yesterday on Fox claiming that JFKerry show us his command of knowledge and President Bush could not."

It's difficult to drain the swamp when you're up to your butt in aligators. President Bush was more concerned and pre-occupied with the WOT and the folks down in Florida recovering from a series of hurricanes to be worrying about the debate. Yes, Mr. Kerry, there are some things more important than memorizing sound bites.

"I do not believe that JFKerry has the "memory" capability to remember all the strange weird lies the majority are willing to give him credit for.

But consider that most everything Kerry said were things that he had been saying over and over on the campaign trail since his nomination. No big accomplishment. It was no more remarkable (relatively) than a kid reciting 'Twinkle, twinkle, little star."

71 posted on 10/05/2004 9:07:28 AM PDT by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be.")
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To: M. Peach

What good are rules to a liberal? Did I say rules; I meant resolutions (17 of them).


72 posted on 10/05/2004 9:08:56 AM PDT by f zero
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To: drpix
You don't have to convince me, I've seen the video many times.

My point was this wasn't going to get the attention it deserve and any hope of Fox giving it some attention got shot down by Brit Hume.

73 posted on 10/05/2004 9:13:16 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Eastbound
This seems like a good place to put this to keep things in perspective:

"In every generation,
the world has produced
enemies of human freedom.
They have attacked America
because we are freedom's home
and defender. And the commitment
of our fathers is now the calling of our time."
-- President George W. Bush

74 posted on 10/05/2004 9:13:35 AM PDT by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be.")
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To: TexasCajun
On that, you may be right. My only point is the loose threads are still hanging. My hope is that the "alternate media" can keep it alive as they have on other issues until it bubbles up again.
75 posted on 10/05/2004 9:20:15 AM PDT by drpix
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To: TexasCajun
"Brit Hume told us it was a pen, so that's that I guess. The MSM media wouldn't touch it and now Brit has told us Fox will not either."

Fox loads up with liberal icons like Geraldo Rivera, Gretta Van Sustern, Alan Colmes, Bill O'Reilly, etc, to make themselves "fair and balanced". Sometimes I wonder if Fox is as 'conservative' as people think.

76 posted on 10/05/2004 12:44:32 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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To: Selkie

Tt's obvious that he has a white square object.


77 posted on 10/05/2004 1:08:06 PM PDT by benice (Kerrys a cheater.....expell him.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

I am new to this forum, probably not posting correctly, but I stopped by to ask for HELP.

When I started this effort I had no idea how quickly it would spread and get blogger and media attention. I was disappointed that fox and the DNC were so quick to dismiss it using the still shot and subsequently became fodder for late night tv.

You all are correct, Kerry did pull a white piece of paper out of his pocket as he took the podium. I have one verification of it. Everyone has been studying Kerry's movements at the very beginning of the tape, from various networks and the internet. From the 'live' fox version of the debate, I have one verification that Kerry reached into his pocket a SECOND time, later in the debate, to take out that black pen.

I need HELP from anyone who has a taped version of the 'live' debate from Fox since I don't have it. Please watch your tape and find the exact time when Kerry reached into his pocket the second time to get his pen. It is very important for me to have a second or third verification of this from the 'live' Fox version (not any of the other network or internet versions).

I believe that the still photo came from a different fox camera angle than the cameral angle fed live of the debate on fox and I believe that the still shot is NOT from anywhere in the beginning of the tape, but from later on (@30 to 45 or more minutes, more or less) into the debate when Kerry got tired of using that white pen that was provided. Like I said, I have one verification of Kerry taking out the pen from his pocket later in the debate and need a 2nd or 3rd person to verify.

Please reply if you have been successful in finding this and thank you all for taking the time do so.

Kimberly


78 posted on 10/07/2004 2:12:23 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: M. Peach

It was his global test cheat sheet...


79 posted on 10/07/2004 2:13:46 AM PDT by databoss (WMD's, Syria and North Korea...)
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