[robowombat]

An inquiring Moslem asks for direction on a question of great interest in the Sudan.

[mnehring]

[2banana]

In the "Jihads" (Islamic wars) that took place, women were also, at times, taken as prisoners of war by the Muslim warriors. These women captives used to be distributed as part of the booty among the soldiers, after their return to Islamic territory. Each soldier was then entitled to have relations ONLY with the slave girl over whom he was given the RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP and NOT with those slave girls that were not in his possession. This RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP was given to him by the "Ameerul-Mu'mineen" (Head of the Islamic state.) Due to this right of ownership, it became lawful for the owner of a slave girl to have intercourse with her.

I wonder if the recently freed Italian women understood any of this...

[Pearls Before Swine]

Hey feminists who don't protest Islam, Note this:

"In other words, just as legal possession of a fish that has been fished out of the water, makes it Halaal for human consumption without the initiation of a formal slaughtering process; similarly legal possession of a slave woman made her Halaal for the purpose of coition with her owner without the initiation of a formal marriage ceremony."

[A Ruckus of Dogs]

woman cannot be used for intercourse

Gotta love the term "used". Speaks volumes.

[soozla]

Good old Mufti Ebrahim Desai, tellin' it like it is, in the name of Allah..............

"Religion of peace", my ass!!!!!!!!!!!

[Honor above all]

It is incredible that the rest of the thinking world does not react to this insanity with outrage and scorn. These people are freaks who prey upon the weak and the helpless. The fact that they see women as sex tools and then say that it is OK because they have now shown them love and honor should make everyone stand up and fight them. If they continue to collect followers, and our governments continue to capitulate to their desires, we are doomed to a new Dark Age and the end of civilization as we know it. Strong words but, I believe, true.

[MontanaBeth]

..."thrown into the hands of a strange society"

Finally, words of truth from a muslim, I have never heard of a stranger society than these people claim. I would prefer death to being a slave to these animals and I would do my best to take some of them with me.

[Travis McGee]

What a sick twisted insane murder and rape cult.

[Capriole]

Well, it sure is comforting to know that if they take me prisoner they have to provide me with food, clothing, and shelter, under the Islamic law they all revere so much. Of course, the chances of me being taken prisoner are pretty remote. I'll fight.

[Clioman]

Real good info to have. Thanks!

/sarcasm

[Preachin']

I wonder if this guy runs a private school where we can send our kids to learn this love?

[Preachin']

Only after a soldier has been allotted a slave girl, and made the owner of her, will she become his lawful possession. After she spends a period called 'Istibraa', which is the elapse of one menstrual period, It becomes permissible for her owner to have relations with her. After possession of the slave too there are a number of other laws that affect the master and slave. There is hardly any Islamic country today that can abide to all these conditions, with the result that it is quite difficult to implement slavery in this time and age.

I've been to Riyahd, and cannot see the difference between what they call slavery and what they call marraige.

[sr4402]

Several notes here.

1) The Imam is relating current laws regarding slavery - I.E. Slavery is legal in Islaam. It is not legal here in the United States.

2) The right of a Slave owner to have sex with his slave outside of marriage in Islaam is defined here:

"Nevertheless, the wisdom underlying the permission granted by Shariah to copulate with a slave woman is as follows: The LEGAL possession that a Muslim receives over a slave woman from the "Ameerul-Mu'mineen" (the Islamic Head of State) gives him legal credence to have coition with the slave woman in his possession, just as the marriage ceremony gives him legal credence to have coition with his wife. In other words, this LEGAL POSSESSION is, in effect, a SUBSTITUTE of the MARRIAGE CEREMONY.

This is the legal jargon that confers marraige. It is only a matter of giving the slave over to the head of state and buying her back that the slave owner then has the rights of marraige confered upon the woman and rights of intercourse.

3) Further, if an Islaamic man, captures a woman and drags her to an Islaamic state (as is here in the Imam's response) she can be his sx toy to do as he wants going through #2 to get there.

I'm not sure we want America to be like this.

[burrian]

Islam ensured that the slave girl's duties were not restricted merely to domestic chores but also gave her master permission to copulate with her. This concession created an atmosphere of love and harmony between the slave girl and her master. Islam thereby raised the status of the war captive-maidens close to that of wives. It was a psychological cure to her grief-stricken heart, being deprived of her family and thrown into the hands of a strange society.

There's no better way to say "i'm sorry" than rape?!?