TWA Flight 800: Attacked, destroyed, covered-up

worldnetdaily.com ^ | Posted: October 7, 2004 | Jack Cashill

[tubebender]

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[Calpernia]

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[tpaine]

7.62 x 51mm wrote:

I have two friends who were at an outdoor, rooftop party in Long Island, that night, with 30+ others. They saw the shootdown. He's ex-military and saw the white, ordinance explosion, followed by the yellow, jet fuel blast. The FBI interviewed them and didn't follow-up any further.

Is that the same party that was being video taped?
A 'cocktail party' tape was shown on national TV later on the night of the crash. The fixed cameras view showed some of the people at the party rushing to the rail of the patio after an off-screen flash out at sea. -- This clip was shown a few hours after the crash, on one of the stations I was surfing that night, then disappeared.

Anyone else out there remember seeing it?

[Calpernia]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1237664/posts?page=34#34

[Calpernia]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1237664/posts?page=34#34

I wonder if these are the subs you saw that information posted about?

[Atlantic Friend]

There were many French passengers on TWA 800, and the French Government DID make strong statements about the "downing" (for lack of a better word right now), but I don't think there was a joint investigation, even if there were talks about sending experts from the Aviation Civile to help their American counterparts.

[Calpernia]

Here is the passenger list: http://www.time.com/time/twa/victim.html

The dark blue geographic areas are hyperlinked. You have to click each one to see the passengers by location.

[Non-Sequitur]

The Kilo-class diesel submarines have an endurance of 7,500 miles without refueling. Where did they refuel on their trip to New York and back?

[Calpernia]

Huh, quite a few 'Unnamed passengers'.


TWA Flight 800: The Passengers

Trans World Airlines provided this list of the 230 people aboard Flight 800.
Aikens-Bellamy, Sandra, 49
Aikey, Jessica, 17
Alex, Christian
Alexander, Matthew, 20
Allen, Ashton, 15
Allen, Lamar
Amlund, Svein
Anderson, Jay Edward, 49
Anderson, Patricia, 42
Anderson, Seana
Babb, David, 13
Baszczewski, Daniel, 18
Charles Beatty, 50
Becker, Michelle, 19
Bellazoug, Myriam, 30
Benjamin, Arthur
Benjamin, Joan
Berthe, Line
Berthe, Maurice
Bluestone, Nicolas
Bohlin, Michelle
Bossuyt, Luc, 52
Bouhs, Leonie
Bower, Jordan, , 17
Braman-Mosberg, Rosemary, 47
Breistroff, Michel, 25
Brooks, Edwin, 81
Brooks, Ruth, 79
Buttaroni, Mirko, 26
Caillaud, Anthony
Caillaud, Daniel
Callas, Dan J., 22
Campbell, Richard G., 63
Carven, Jay, 9
Carven, Paula
Cayrol, Jacques
Chaillou, Jenny
Chanson, Ludovic, 11
Charbonnier, Jacques, 66
Charbonnier, Constance, 49
Chemtob, Monique
Christopher, Janet, 48
Coiner, Constance, 48
Coiner, Ana Duarte, 12
Cox, Monica, 16
Crandell, Pamela, 28
Creamades, Daniel
Dadi, Marcel, 46
D' Alessandro, Anna
Darley, Francois
Deboisredon, Cybele
Delange, Sylvain, 35
Delouvrier, Judith, 47
Dhuimieres, Dominiques
Dickey, Deborah
Dickey, Douglas
DiLuccio, Debra Collins, 47
D'Iorio, Christine Bailey
D'Iorio, Pietro
Dodge, Warren, 50
Dupont, Guy
Dwyer, Larkyn, 11
Edwards, Daryl, 41
Ellison, Marie
Ersoz, Clara, 59
Ersoz, Namik, 64
Eshleman, Dougas A., 35
Estival, Alexandre
Feeney, Deirdre, 17
Feeney, Vera, 56
Ferrat (first name unavailable)
Foster, Rod, 61
Foulon, Didier
Fry, Carol
Furlano, Rosaria
Gabor, Daniel, 27
Gaetke, Dan, 33
Gaetke, Stephanie
Galland, Jean Paul
Gasq, C.
Unnamed passenger flying with C. Gasq
Gough, Analei Ralli
Gough, Capt. Donald
Graham, Steven, 38
Gray, Charles Hank, 47
Greene, Renee
Griffith, Donna
Griffith, Joanne, 39
Grimm, Julia, 15
Grivet, Cyril
Gustin, Anne
Hammer, Beverly, 59
Hammer, Tracy, 29
Hansen, Lars Groenbakken
Harkness, Eric, 23
Harris, Lawrence
Haurani, Dr. Ghassan
Haurani, Nina
Hazelton, Sandra
Hettler, Rance, 18
Hill, Susan
Hocharo, Jeanpierre
Hogan, David, 47
Holst, Virginia, 31
Holst, Eric, 32
Hull, James, 48
Hurd, James III
Ingenhuett
Jacquemot, Benoit
Jensen, Susanne, 31
Johns, Courtney, 18
Johnsen, Arlene E., 60
Johnson, Eleanor, 50
Johnson, Jed, 47
Johnson, Leonard, 53
Jones, Ramona, 61
Karschner, Amanda, 17
Kevorkian, Capt. Ralph G., 58
Krick, Oliver, 25
Krikhan, Margot, 51
Krukar, Andrew, 40
Kwan, Barbara, 40
Kwiat, Kimberly, 26
Kwiat, Patricia, 21
Labys, Jane, 51
Lacailledesse, Antoine
LaForge, Alain
Lamour, Yvon
Lang, Ray, 51
Lockhart, Maureen, 49
Loffredo, Elaine, 50
Loudenslagher, Jody, 18
Lohan, Britta
Loo, Patricia, 55
Lucien, Dalila, 17
Luevano, Elias, 42
Lychner, Katie, 8
Lychner, Pam, 37
Lychner, Shannon, 10
Manchuelle, Francois
Maresq, Etienne
Maresq, Nicolas
Martin, Betty Ruth, 69
Mazzola, Salvator, 36
McPherson, Pamela, 45
Meade, Sandra, 42
Melotin, Grace, 48
Mercurio, Giuseppe
Merieux, Rodolphe
Meshulam, Avishaim
Michel, Pascal
Miller, Amy, 29
Miller, Elizabeth, in her 50s
Miller, Gideon, 57
Miller, Joan
Miller, Kyle, 29
Miller, Robert, 62
Murta, Angela
Nelson, A.
Unnamed passenger flying with A. Nelson
Nibert, Cheryl, 16
Notes, Gadi, 29
O'Hara, Caitlin, 13
O'Hara, Janet, 39
O'Hara, John, 39
Olsen, Rebecca Jane, 20
Omiccioli, Monica, 23
Orman, Alan
Ostachiewicz, Elsie
Unnamed passenger flying with Elsie Ostachiewicz
Paquet, Huguette
Paquet, Ingrid
Pares, Serge
Penzer, Judy, 49
Percy, Marion
Price, Dennis
Price, Peggy, 49
Privette, Glenda, 46
Puhlmann, Rico, 62
Puichaud, Elizabeth
Remy, Jacqueline
Rhein, Kirk Jr., 43
Rhoads, Marit E., 48
Rhoads, Scott, 48
Richey, Brent
Richter, Annelyse
Richter, Noemie
Rio, Celine
Rogers, Kimberly, 17
Rojany, Yon, 19
Ramangna, Barbara, of Sun City Center, Fla.
Rose, Katrina M., 26
Rupert, Judith
Schuldt, Mike, 51
Scott, Barbara, 39
Scott, Joseph, 13
Scott, Michael, 44
Shorter, Anna Maria
Siebert, Brenna, 25
Siebert, Chrisha, 28
Silverman, Candace, 22
Silverman, Etta, 53
Silverman, Eugene, 54
Silverman, Jamie, 15
Simmons, Olivia, 50
Skjold, K.
Snyder, Capt. Steven, 57
Story, William R.
Straus, Carine
Teang, Lydie
Teang, Rachana
Thiery, Josette
Tofani, Mauro, 46
Torche, Melinda, 47
Uzupis, Larissa, 16
Van Epps, Lois, mid 50s
Verhaeghe, Rick L
Warren, Lani, 48
Watson, Jacqueline, 18
Watson, Jill, 32
Weatherby, Thomas, 13
Weaver, Monica, 16
Windmiller, Ruben
Wolfson, Eleanor
Wolfson, Wendy, 16
Wolters, Bonnie, 44
Yee, Judith, 53
Zara, Jean
Ziemkiewicz, Jill, 24

[Calpernia]

Can that be done in route?

[Non-Sequitur]

Can that be done in route?

Well, it can be done at sea assuming you have the tanker and the necessary expertise. Or it can be done in port, which would be pretty obvious. Long and short is that this boat would have needed two or three refuelings on the way there, and two or three on the way back. The question is where, when, and how. And once we solve this problem then we can take up the fact that this kind of submarine has no surface to air missile capability.

[Calpernia]

>>>And once we solve this problem then we can take up the fact that this kind of submarine has no surface to air missile capability.

Can the sub be refurbished to have missile capability?

If it wasn't a missile at all, could it have been a 'shoe bomber' type of incident? Would that explain the passenger list I posted about with the 'unnamed passengers'?

What other reasons would passengers be unknown on an aircraft?

[B4Ranch]

Unnamed passengers flying with ....... are infants.

[Texas Federalist]

the flight was at too high an altitude for any ground to air missile, and

A surface to air missle can target up to 15,000 feet. The flight was slightly above 13,000 when it was hit.

[Calpernia]

Oh. That is really sad.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

It's also a shame that John Kerry called TWA 800 a terrorist attack twice on national television (Hardball with Chris Matthews, Larry King Live) on September 11th.

[Happy2BMe]

Bojinka BUMP and ping - (Clinton and TWA Flight 800 just won't go away.)

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'Beyond doubt, Clinton is aware of the potential use of planes as bombs in the summer of 1996, but he does nothing about it. Patterson also tentatively identifies Deputy National Security Adviser and political consigliore Sandy Berger as the one person holed up on the night of July 17 with Clinton in the family quarters. No document could be more damaging to the Clinton legacy than Clinton's handwritten notes on Bojinka and related plans. Pilfering these might be worth the risk of getting caught.

[all4one]

TWA Flight 800: Attacked, destroyed, covered-up

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[ApesForEvolution]

BTTT

Freaking IslamoCommunist DemocRAT Americans just SUCK!

[Non-Sequitur]

Can the sub be refurbished to have missile capability?

Depends on what type you are talking about. Shoulder fire missiles wouldn't require any sort of modifications at all. That Iranian Sub Website liked to above mentions Seacat and Skyguard missiles. The Seacat required a launching platform that was over 6 feet tall and weighed over a ton. Not something that can be added to a sub. And I've never heard of a SAM called Skyguard from the UK or any other country.