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October 8th Bush/Kerry Post-Debate LIVE Thread

Posted on 10/08/2004 5:43:50 PM PDT by andrew1957

October 8th Bush/Kerry Debate


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To: mowowie

Are you watching it on tape or a delayed broadcast?


7,301 posted on 10/09/2004 12:11:35 AM PDT by silent_jonny ("Kicking Ass & Taking Hyphenated Names!")
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To: silent_jonny
it's being replayed on Fox. I'll be sure to change the channel the second it's over. I ain't watching that post debate crap again.
7,302 posted on 10/09/2004 12:15:16 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie
Have you noticed Kerry moves around the stage like an Emperor Penguin?
7,303 posted on 10/09/2004 12:15:46 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: silent_jonny

plus it's 3:15 am :)


7,304 posted on 10/09/2004 12:15:47 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie
I wonder if there is a correlation between who our REAL allies are and who's soil we maintain a strong military presence in? Foreign people tend to like us better at a distance . . . that might explain why the Canadians spit on us and the Mexicans love us. We let the Canadians dance across our borders any time they like. France, Germany, Canada, etc. have been under the protection of our defenses too long. They are like the deadbeat ex who continues to drive our car and complain that we didn't put gas in it. I won't comment on the ROK. The people here are kind and gentle and treat our military with respect. We should continue to honor our agreements with foreign governments whatever the cost. Our word (even the word of past democratic presidents) IS our bond.
7,305 posted on 10/09/2004 12:16:39 AM PDT by Laurita (Been a lurkin', time to start workin')
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To: TexKat
Virtually a draw? Glad to hear it. You see, after the media conventional wisdom was that Dubya got whomped in debate 1, polls still showed that most voters, even those who had declared Kerry the winner, thought Bush was the best man to be President, and the first debate did nothing to correct Kerry's horrible internals, i.e. favorable/unfavorable, strong leader, honest, etc.

This was not a tie...but even a tie is good for the Prez.

7,306 posted on 10/09/2004 12:18:34 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (John Kerry will make Triumph the Insult Comic Dog his Secretary of State)
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To: mowowie

No problem. I have done that several times myself being dyslexic.


7,307 posted on 10/09/2004 12:18:41 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Barlowmaker

I gotta say again I'm from just outside Boston and I CAN'T beleive that joker is even there!! It's friggin crazy. in NC they call Edwards Senator Gone. Around here Kerry is Senator Invisible.


7,308 posted on 10/09/2004 12:19:12 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: killjoy

Bush whomped Kerry.


7,309 posted on 10/09/2004 12:19:50 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (John Kerry will make Triumph the Insult Comic Dog his Secretary of State)
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To: andrew1957

Well, a Friend just E-mailed me a question as to how I thought it went, so I'll weigh in here by sharing my response to him with you.




>
> How do you think W did tonight
> I thought he was good...
> But I fear that Kerry lies with such a straight face that the voters may be fooled.

Well, it seems that "Prophet" Kim was blowing proverbial (if not prophetic) hot air up our skirts; I didn't see any miraculous manifestations or any such thing (O me of little faith; was not really expecting any, really).

El Presidente' was.... well... not nearly as bad as he was in his fist debate debacle, I suppose.

It took him a while to get some steam up in his boiler, but he eventually worked up enough pressure to toot the whistle a time or two, if not make significant headway.

He even managed to pronounce "Nuclear" in stead of "Nukeyoolar" this time. I was beginning to wonder if he was even capable of it.

His grey suit and yuchhy pasty/cyanotic grey-blue tie made him look like a necrotic snowman well dusted with wood ash, while Kerry was dapper and spiffy in his well tailored navy blue suit and complementary red tie.
My wife opined that I'm a fine one to be critiquing other men's attire or fashion statements, looking like a hobo as I do most of the time.

It probably helped Kerry that he does not have to wear a ballistic armor vest around all the time; no one wants to kill him nearly as bad as the leftist commie lunatics (not to mention the whackko Islammofacists) want to kill Bush.

The socialist poodle's hair looked like it was sculpted out of plastic and spray-painted; he seems to have lost most of the phony orange "canned tan" he adorned himself with before the first debate, but seemed almost overly made-up, giving him a rather plastic, superficial, phony look. Much like the "Joker" carachter in the "Batman" series.
How appropriate, eh?

And he was nearly as "slick" as Clinton; he must have been taking lessons from him before the heart attack.
Kerry paced and strutted around the stage like he owned the joint and gestured magnificantly, like a silver-tounged TV Evangalist.
Although he schmoozed 'em like a good used car salesman, by the looks of the audience, I don't think that many of them were buying his well- polished pitch.

Surprisingly, the questions were commendably unbiased (or at least reasonably balanced) and I didn't see any real softballs pitched to either Candidate. I had suspected that in that College setting, a lot of radical leftists would have lied to the screeners and infiltrated the audience to load the questions or cause disruptions like they did at the Convention. But thankfully, my concerns were unfounded.

Much to Bush's relief, I suspect, no one asked him about our porous borders or the hoardes of illeagal immigrant invaders (including Islammo-terrorists) pouring in to our Country every day.

Kerry, like a true Politician, danced around many of the questions and used them to launch into his boilerplate schpeil about how Bush lied about the WMD, went to war "Unilatteraly", gave "Tax cuts to the wealthiest 1%" and all that bileous crappe.

Unlike the last time (that was painfull!) GWB actually rose to the occasion and countered some of Hanoi John's whoppers - at least to some extent. I'm not sure that he really drove home the distinction of their tax plans, or how Kerry's proposed tax on "the rich" making over $200K a year would actually plunder about 80% of small businesses in America and raise hell with what's left of our economy... but he at least tried, God love 'im.

It seems that W. might have had a little chat with his much more articulate VP and got a clue about Kerry's Senate voting record (on those precious occasions when he actually showed up to vote), which he thought to mention a time or two, much to his credit.

Even though a reasonably intelligent High School Senior could probably out-debate our President (it certainly is not his forte'), he did project an image of transparent credibility, sincerity, personal integrity and passion which Kerry sorely lacks.

Mr. Bush demonstrated another quality that Kerry notoriously lacks; a sense of humor.

Did you catch the part when K. accused B. of owning a lumber mill that was "news" to Bush, the latter approached the Moderator and asked; "Ya want some wood?".

That seemed to break the almost palpable confrontive tension for a moment, and it seems that the audience appreciated it.

Kerry's primary emotions - and they showed loud and clear - were bitterness, hostility, and anger.

My wife commented that his responses to the questions were often "patronizing", and I concur entirely.

If he was trying to conceal his haughty, arrogant attitude, he failed miserably, and I don't think that it played all that well to either the live audience or the TV cameras, nor did it do him a lot of good.

I summed the debate up as essentially a contest of words and wits between a City-slicker Lawyer and a Humble-bumble Cowboy from Texas who somehow managed to stumble into celebrity, honor, history, and destiny. Almost as if by surprise.

The Pundits of course will claim "victory" for the Candidate of their favor and bias, using various critereon to support their assesments. A couple of them on FOX News called it a "tie", and I suppose that was fair enough.

From a purely objective standpoint, it could probably be said that Kerry decicively "won" the debate; he talks circles around Bush, and I think that Mr. Bush would be among the first to admit that. I would love to have seen Ronaldus Magnus in his prime take Kerry on; he would have cleaned Kerry's clock, eaten his lunch, and left him standing out in the rain holding on to his ass and wondering what the hell hit him.

If GWB lacks Regan's quick wit and nimble tounge, he does seem to be graced with a few of the former President's more useful and blessed gifts; a uniquely "American", albeit somewhat Western, natural, easy-going charm; a sense of humor, and a decent heart.
And he seems to appreciate where those gifts came from, too, and is graciously and humbly willing to give credit where it is due.

Now those simple gifts might not win him a lot of debates or popularity contests over in Europe...

But it might be just the ticket to lead a troubled Country .. and World ... through the next four very uncertain years.

Hope I've adequately addressed your question, my Friend.

for God and Country;

"Uncle Jaque"


7,310 posted on 10/09/2004 12:21:24 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: Lady Heron

Why didn't Bush mention how Kerry opposed the Gulf war in 91. Here Kerry is talking about coalitions and he opposed the Gulf War. Bush should have said. If Kerry was President in 1991, Saddam would still be controlling Kuwait.


7,311 posted on 10/09/2004 12:23:24 AM PDT by Lori675
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To: Mr. Silverback

Agreed. This was a pancaking.

The obvious truth of that was the giddy introduction of blatantly corrupted internet polls immediately into the MSNBC and CNN ... and of course (Re)Gwettas FOX nonsense, post debate. Democrat.com had 100,000 votes logged into all these cyber polls before they opened.

And, the ghouls considered it "newsworthy".

I think W won the election tonight. With the grace of God, we may just survive as a people another 4 years.


7,312 posted on 10/09/2004 12:24:50 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
They used the political trick...run as a conservative until you're safely in office, then become liberal. It's all for viewership, just as nearly every career politician has one goal in mind: votes.

The problem with this business formula is that there are 7 other liberal news channels out there. Who's brilliant plan is it at Fox to become one more pea in a pod and think that it will gain them market share? If anybody had a brain in that company they would fire them quick, before they loose what made them great and their market share.

7,313 posted on 10/09/2004 12:24:55 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Rokke

Maybe I'm overestimating the elctorate, but it does seem pretty funny that Kerry's basic case is, "You can't trust aguy with the economy who created nearly 2 million jobs in a year, he has no idea what he's doing!" And that's before you get into Kerry's tax hikes...


7,314 posted on 10/09/2004 12:26:39 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (John Kerry will make Triumph the Insult Comic Dog his Secretary of State)
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To: hole_n_one
Just WHAT the sam hill is Teriyzzah describing to the First Lady here? :



Naaahhh....; Can't be! {B^{*~

7,315 posted on 10/09/2004 12:28:33 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: andrew1957

Just watched the replay of the debate... the president won it hands down. Lurch had no answers except to keep saying "I have a plan" to every question. And I was overjoyed to hear W tying Lurch to the rats in Europe and he even managed to needle Lurch as a liberal. (Which must have been effective since Lurch kept stammering about "labels").


7,316 posted on 10/09/2004 12:29:31 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Laurita
Thanks for the reply Laurita. I love talking to soldiers. I have the utmost respect for them and find them very interesting. you get to hear the real deal and not the crap the MSM force feeds you every night. I recently spent 5 hours on a flight to Vegas with a 20 yr old Marine on leave from Iraq. he was on his way to a funeral for one of his buddies who got shot up. sad story. He rides on top of Hummers manning the gun. said he has been shot 4 times. he had his hand wrapped up. he unwrapped it and showed me how his thumb was sewn back on after being shot off. I tell you the stories this guy told me had me enthralled for the whole 5 hours. it was a red eye and I think he had the whole back of the plane listening to us all night. He actually loved his job and couldn't wait to get back believe it or not. he said he missed his buddies. I guess he has a true band of brothers.
7,317 posted on 10/09/2004 12:30:08 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Uncle Jaque
Let the d'RATs obsess about that, what the rest of the world is concerned with is the size of his huevos.
7,318 posted on 10/09/2004 12:31:37 AM PDT by Laurita (Been a lurkin', time to start workin')
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To: LADY J
Good point! Rush has a tremendous following and he has never pretended to be 'fair and balanced.'

If Rush has 22 million listeners (and I do not know if that means in a 3 hour period or in a week), can you imagine what type of viewership a cable news channel would get if it went totally and unabashedly conservative. It would be on in my house constantly.

7,319 posted on 10/09/2004 12:31:59 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Uncle Jaque
"Just WHAT the sam hill is Teriyzzah describing to the First Lady here?"

The length of John's nails before the manicure.

7,320 posted on 10/09/2004 12:32:45 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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