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Study ties Hussein, guerrilla strategy (Boston Globe Says Saddam Smarter Than Rumsfeld)
Boston Globe ^ | October 11, 2004 | Bryan Bender

Posted on 10/11/2004 1:20:57 PM PDT by Lance Romance

Study ties Hussein, guerrilla strategy

US may have played into plans, report says

By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff  |  October 11, 2004

WASHINGTON -- The ''shock and awe" attack that toppled Saddam Hussein in three weeks is often touted as a brilliant strategy that defeated Iraq with relatively few US casualties. But new information suggests that the United States may have played into Hussein's plans for a quick war followed by a long guerrilla insurgency.

The report last week of the Iraq Survey Group, based partly on interviews with captured leaders of the secretive Iraqi regime, said Hussein planned to have his troops and loyalists pull back after an initial US thrust and engage the Americans under terms more favorable to the Iraqis.

The quick fall of Baghdad was once seen as vindication of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's belief in the power of smaller numbers of fast-moving troops. But recently, even President Bush has conceded that the early victory of the US-led coalition helped lay the groundwork for an insurgency that has claimed the lives of 929 US troops since the end of major combat on May 1, 2003.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thinfantrydivision; beheadings; iraq; olivernorth; saddam; suicidebombings; turkey

The report said that from August 2002 to January 2003 Iraqi commanders across the country were ordered to hide weapons in the countryside. An index to the report says that a branch of Iraqi intelligence trained fighters from Syria, Yemen, Egypt, Lebanon, Lebanese, and Sudan in explosives and marksmanship at Salman Pak, near Baghdad.

Hmmm. Like chemical and biological weapons?

1 posted on 10/11/2004 1:20:58 PM PDT by Lance Romance
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To: Lance Romance

We shall see who has the last laugh after these documents are authenticated.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240944/posts


2 posted on 10/11/2004 1:23:51 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Lance Romance

Brilliant strategy Saddam.

Too bad you're in jail about to go on trial and elections will be held in your country soon.


3 posted on 10/11/2004 1:23:59 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: Lance Romance

Yeah, Saddam's so smart. That's why he's in jail. That's why he lived like a rat for months. That's why he gave up "it's good to be the king" over WMD he was afraid to admit he didn't have. Real friggin' smart.


4 posted on 10/11/2004 1:24:02 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: Lance Romance
Oh yeaaaaaa, unlike the brilliant strategy of LBJ and McNamara during the Viet Nam war...

ya know if any of these morons who work at the NY or LA Times ever served a day in combat they wouldn't embarrass themselves on military strategy on a daily basis! ROFLMAO
5 posted on 10/11/2004 1:29:38 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Lance Romance

"new information suggests that the United States may have played into Hussein's plans for a quick war followed by a long guerrilla insurgency."

"Ah, infidels, I have you right where I want you" Saddam said as he blearily peered up from his spider hole.


6 posted on 10/11/2004 1:30:50 PM PDT by mmsturm (Support Your Local Scouts)
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To: Lance Romance

Can't figure out how Saddam could be smarter. He's in jail, and his sons are dead. His country is in a shambles.

Of course, maybe that's what he was trying to accomplish, in which case, he may just be the most ingenious person ever to have lived.

I bet that's what the Globe is talking about.


7 posted on 10/11/2004 1:36:22 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ruiner
... and then you will likely be executed. Just remember on your last breath, that dumb old Rummy did this to you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
8 posted on 10/11/2004 1:39:11 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: Lance Romance
Saddam is soooooo much smarter he played chicken and lost control of his country, his hundreds of palaces, his billions, and his dignity


9 posted on 10/11/2004 1:55:17 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Lance Romance
Rerun!!! Rehash of old talking heads expert analysis during the runup to the invasion. Nothing new here. Move along.
11 posted on 10/11/2004 2:09:50 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: Lance Romance

Only from the morons-cretins-idiots-liberal-demokkkRATs at *The Boston Globulus-Phlegmus*.


12 posted on 10/11/2004 2:17:16 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: finnman69
Hmmm...

I had to dig a bit... "hortamini igitur ut eas quatiant ".

13 posted on 10/11/2004 2:22:33 PM PDT by alieno nomine
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To: Lance Romance

Of course he's smarter. Which one knew whether Saddam had WMD? Easy -- Saddam.

No contest.

Sheesh.


14 posted on 10/11/2004 2:25:43 PM PDT by DJ Frisat (Hand me the duct tape before my head explodes...)
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To: Lance Romance
But new information suggests that the United States may have played into Hussein's plans for a quick war followed by a long guerrilla insurgency.

What a pile of crap. Right, we played into his hands by occupying his country, killing his two sons, capturing him, and putting him on trial. Yeah, that Saddam is one clever dude.

Wouldn't it be smarter to have invited the inspectors in and complied with the truce argeement? Saddam never believed the US would invade without UN approval. He figured that the Russians and French would veto any US effort to oust him from power because he was paying them off through the Oil for Food program.

15 posted on 10/11/2004 2:28:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Lance Romance

If viewed from anything other than the Leftist Media prism, the scorecard reads Rummy 7, Saddamite 0. Saddam's out of power, in jail, without any hope of getting WMDs, Iraq is headed toward elections, and a heap of Saddamites (including Uday and Qusay) are dead. Rummy's still in power, traveling freely, part of an administration that is likely to be re-elected. Hmm, who would I rather be?


16 posted on 10/11/2004 2:45:30 PM PDT by steveegg (John F'em Ke(rr)y - Terrorism should be a "nuisance". Does that mean it shouldn't be wiped out?)
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To: Lance Romance

By far the cleverest part of his strategic planning was allowing himself to be captured and put on trial.

That way he'll be in Baghdad ready to take over when his Baathist thugs regain control.


18 posted on 10/11/2004 3:00:22 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: steveegg

If Saddam is so smart, why is he in a cage and Rummy is having dinner with POTUS?


19 posted on 10/11/2004 3:00:31 PM PDT by Wardawg (Hanoi John Forgery le Kerrie was here.)
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To: LogicalMs
General "Black Jack" Pershing had problems with islamic terrorists in the Philippines almost a hundred years ago.

When he had all he could tolerate and after trying other methods, he rounded up some of the terrorists and made them dig their own graves. He then had them tied to posts and made them all watch while some pigs were slaughtered before them.

Bullets were dipped in the bloody pig fat and loaded into the US soldiers rifles. All but one of the terrorists were executed. The bodies were unceremoniously thrown in the pits, face down so they could not "see" Mecca. Pig entrails, fat and blood was then dumped on top of them.

The last remaining terrorized terrorist was set free to tell his living associates what he witnessed. There was no terrorism in the Philippines for over fifty years. This story or variations of it have been in circulation for years and I don't know if it's true or not. Sounds like it's worth trying to me.

20 posted on 10/11/2004 5:01:14 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: LogicalMs
I am now going to feast on baby back ribs.

Hooah!

LM ;-)

I like your incremental approach.

For beheadings, I particularly like the refinement reportedly used by the 6th Cavalry on Moro juramentados. They, the terrorists themselves are beheaded and their heads sewn inside a hog carcass.

Enjoy your unclean feast of baby back ribs. No 72 virgins for you!

22 posted on 10/11/2004 7:44:32 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: LogicalMs
Look at how prevalent rape was among the Taliban. Hatred and fear of the other sex.

I believe that this particular dysfunction could be the very root of some of the islamist culture's problems.

24 posted on 10/12/2004 4:59:26 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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