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Microsoft warns of 22 new security flaws
CNET via ZDNet.com ^ | October 12, 2004, 12:28 PM PT | Robert Lemos

Posted on 10/12/2004 2:45:09 PM PDT by Redcloak

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To: VeniVidiVici
Just an update:

I did a total sys.search and could not find the driver "mpegport" anywhere in the system.

Next I read plenty of Tech material on this and what I discovered,is that it is likely a kernal level problem. It affects different machines in similar ways, but is not the same cause. Some pentium machines are also affected. I even found one guy who had the sameprocessor as I do anddid not have a proplem, but the machine config is different. Also, laptops with AMD stepping processors were most definately hurt by SP-2.

I think I will sit on it for now. There are so many versions of this same problem it is impossible to know the cause of mine. It may need a flash reprogram of the bios and new drivers for the chips for all I know.

here is a blog link on this situation. Long read!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/index.php?p=406

41 posted on 10/12/2004 9:06:39 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Cold Heat

Here is the problem and work-around for Athlon 64 and SP2 upgrade.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;873155&Product=windowsxpsp2


42 posted on 10/13/2004 9:10:44 AM PDT by UseYourHead (This November, remember who the terrorists are voting for.)
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To: UseYourHead
Appreciate the info, but I tried this fix even though my system is acting slightly differently.

I do not use Norton. I hate it with a passion. It is a virus sieve, not a filter, but I digress.

This problem illustrated here is but one of dozens. My system is locking up at the initiation of the boot sequence.It never even gets close to the login page. It is failing as soon as the processor finishes loading the Bios.

The problem seems to be that the processor drivers need to write something to memory and the SP-2 security is stopping the process at it's infancy.

It will boot in safe mode with all drivers turned off, and I have not been able to write or erase anything in the sys.ini or bootlog txt files as some of the fixes suggest. The machine does not recognise the commands. These fixes seem to be concerned with a driver that I do not have anyway.

It seems the mfgr is clueless as well.

I have already wiped the drive once as a result attempted repairs and I basically lost faith that this can be fixed without changing the processor drivers.

I posted a link above to a blog on this subject. There are many different problems exibited, with some being fixed and others not addressed yet.

I think I am in the latter category.

43 posted on 10/13/2004 10:02:05 AM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Redcloak
current gaggle of goofs BUMP
44 posted on 10/13/2004 11:07:17 AM PDT by LTCJ (CBS, all your Boyd Cycles are belong to us.)
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To: Cold Heat

I just built an AMD 64 machine and put SP2 on it with no problems at all.


45 posted on 10/13/2004 11:13:00 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Redcloak

Linux is fun. Try it. You'll like it.


46 posted on 10/13/2004 11:15:35 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: Cold Heat
Fortunately,I do not have a clue about servers,...

Ok

nor do I need to.

Wrong. There is very little difference between Microsoft Windows 2000 Server and Windows XP at the layer where most exploits occur.

Everything done by hackers is to data manipulate or take over home PCs.

Wrong again. Banks, government agencies and high-visibility businesses are the usual target of attackers. They have the huge bandwidth and data of interest.

Networks are usually well protected by excellent firewalls, but the PC hooked to it is the weakness.

And more wrongness. Most firewalls are barely adequate, and most firewall rulesets have huge holes. Besides, a firewall doesn't protect a machine that you allowed access to.

As I see it, it is the PC they are after, and MS owns that market in operating systems, applications and the like world wide.

And you see it wrong. It's money, fame or private business data they are after. No one cares about your Microsoft Money data.

BTW, most of the error messages that I get are Apache generated. That is the only reason I even know the name.

BTW, most error messages handed out by web servers are telling you that you did something wrong.

Exploiters attack systems they know they can exploit. Why the hell bother attacking OpenBSD? It's a waste of time.

But attacking a Microsoft machine is likely to get somewhere, so that's where they hit.

Not because it is popular, but because it is possible.

47 posted on 10/13/2004 11:16:44 AM PDT by Knitebane
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To: newzjunkey

They remind me a lot of the Galactic Empire from the Foundation series...except for that there isn't a Foundation around to pick up the pieces.

lol, I'm a nerd.


48 posted on 10/13/2004 11:23:52 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: js1138

aren't AMD 64's teh pwnz0r?!

I can run Unreal Tournament 2004 on my AMD 64 laptop with EVERYTHING maxed out at 800x600 with no perceptable slowdown, and I only have a 64 bit accelerator card! :)

When you turn everything up, it goes "Holy S***!" I about fell outta my chair. :)


49 posted on 10/13/2004 11:26:25 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Redcloak

BTTT


50 posted on 10/13/2004 11:29:53 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: js1138
I have a AMD opteron 12 stepper in a laptop.

It is the code for the processor that is causing the system to crash, I believe.I took the liberty of deleting all extraneous progs and it still crashed.

51 posted on 10/13/2004 1:00:16 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Cold Heat

Could be motherboard drivers.


52 posted on 10/13/2004 1:05:16 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: js1138
Possibly.............

Right now, the consensus seems to be that folks with my situation to stay away from SP-2.

Many of the other glitches are being addressed and repaired. The maker of this laptop, "Averatec" and AMD appear to be clueless right now, because "opteron" servers are also being affected.

I am still waiting for word from the technical people at Averatec, but I am not holding my breath after reading some of the commentary on this.

If they need to re-write the drivers to accommodate SP-2, I understand why they are not amused.

53 posted on 10/13/2004 1:15:11 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Cold Heat

My daughter has an Averatec laptop. It certainly doesn't have an Operton, and I don't think she's put SP2 on yet.


54 posted on 10/13/2004 1:21:20 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: js1138
My Dell blew up during the first debate.

It had been dropped few days earlier, the dog knocked it off the table, and the power connection was damaged but still functioning.

It erupted in multicolored flames while on my lap! LOL

Anyway, I went to walmart for a emergency replacement, and this was the only thing they had with 5oo+ Megs of memory and a wireless network card.

Not bad for under a thousand bucks, as the dream Dell I wanted was nearly 2600 bucks.

55 posted on 10/13/2004 2:01:30 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: newzjunkey

"With an attitude like that we might as well welcome our new Democrat masters and accept the Mark of the Beast right now."

I'm sorry, but that's so silly that I can't even come up with a sarcastic response.


56 posted on 10/15/2004 7:21:13 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadin)
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To: HAL9000

"Yeah - in Haiti."

Wow, that was a snappy comeback.

If another software maker met the needs of consumers better than Microsoft, they would own the market. I used to use Visicalc, CP/M, Supercalc, Profile, Word Perfect, DbaseII, DbaseIII, DbaseIV, Clipper, Foxpro, Calcstar, Wordstar, DRDOS, QDOS, and lots of other programs and operating systems. I've tried Apple. I gave Linux a 2-year effort.

Microsoft is the best for me (and most others). It has the best mix of what I need for desktop computing and business software.

This irrational hatred of Microsoft reeks of Democrat-like hatred of big business. If you don't like Windows, there is nothing stopping you from providing a better operating system. There are lots and lots of good programmers out there and so far, they have failed to provide that product. When they do, I will buy it. Until that time, I will correctly note that Microsoft provides the best product mix for me (and most others).


57 posted on 10/15/2004 7:33:14 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadin)
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To: Redcloak
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58 posted on 10/15/2004 7:34:04 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: don-o

No doubt, I refuse to touch SP2. I won't do it until my work computer gets it and works well for a few months. There's just too many problems.


59 posted on 11/09/2004 5:40:25 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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