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Bob Schieffer: "There should be a question about illegal immigration"

Posted on 10/12/2004 7:21:03 PM PDT by gs-conserv

Just saw Bob Schieffer, moderator of tomorrow nights debate, on Hannity and Colmes and he mentioned a "probable" question about illegal immigration. This brought to mind something I heard this afternoon on our local talk radio show about a crime that took place near Charlotte, this past weekend. The following article was in the "Charlotte Observer". Unfortunately, this being a typical liberal newspaper, you have to go all the way to the 10th paragraph, to realize the 6 suspects were all illegal immigrants.

I know this would certainly alienate some people, but I wish Bush would take a touch stance about this problem.


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Posted on Tue, Oct. 12, 2004

6 men accused of raping woman

Police: Unusual to charge so many, have so much evidence

KYTJA WEIR

Staff Writer

Six men were in custody Monday, charged with gang raping a 37-year-old woman visiting a Huntersville home over the weekend.

But Huntersville police are still looking for a seventh man.

The woman, whom police did not identify, visited a trailer home in the 11000 block of Cimmaron Road on the southwestern edge of Huntersville around 9:30 p.m. Saturday night, said Huntersville police Lt. Ken Richardson.

She was a friend of one of the men who lived there, off McCoy Road, Richardson said.

The friend and six other men held the woman at the home for at least six hours and repeatedly raped her, Richardson said.

The next morning she called police around 11:30 a.m. and went to Lake Norman Regional Medical Center to be treated for physical injuries.

Such rapes with multiple attackers are nearly unheard of in the town of about 32,300 people, Richardson said. Since joining the department six years ago, the lieutenant said, he hasn't seen a rape case with so many suspects -- or so much evidence.

But rape has been on the rise in Mecklenburg County this year. In the first half of 2004, the number of rapes reported to Charlotte-Mecklenburg police increased 11 percent from the same period in 2003. It's unclear, though, how many of the 156 reported rapes were gang rapes, a term for rapes with more than one suspect.

"It's not the victim's fault," Richardson said. "I believe people should be able to go where they want to go and be safe."

Huntersville police visited the home Sunday afternoon to collect evidence and found the men were in the country illegally. It's unclear what country they are from, police said. Investigators called immigration officials who detained the men while Huntersville police continued their investigation.

The woman identified five of the men, Richardson said, and the sixth offered a statement to police. They are still trying to identify and locate a seventh man who raped her, police said.

On Monday afternoon, police charged each of the six men with first degree forcible rape, first degree sexual offense and first degree kidnapping, Richardson said.

The men charged are Blas Ceron Santiago, 27; Rafael Ceron Santiago, 23; Alfredo Munoz Perez, 26; and Antonio Islas Lucio, 24. All lived at the trailer. Also charged are Eladio Castillo Castillo, 28, who lives in Cornelius; and Alejandro Morales Suarez, 25, who lives elsewhere in Huntersville, police said.

1 posted on 10/12/2004 7:21:04 PM PDT by gs-conserv
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To: gs-conserv

this is one thing President Bush needs to DO, is CLOSE our Borders...I know everyone says WAIT and complain about this after the election....Im not complaining but I dont understand his reluctance in just plain DOGGING the borders so illegals and terrorists have NO WAY IN ...
about 200 of my pals that are republicans in our little prayer group, ALL are sorta upset over this one thing..


2 posted on 10/12/2004 7:27:15 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: gs-conserv
We have such a long porous border with Mexico and it is so easy to get over that it is very difficult to contain them. There are miles and miles of nothing where they can come across, and it would take more than a fence to keep them out. On top of that there are a lot of employers with entry level jobs they can't fill because people would rather stay on welfare and watch tv all day, so they hire illegals.
3 posted on 10/12/2004 7:27:27 PM PDT by midwyf
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To: gs-conserv
I was surprised to hear Scheifer say that about the debate questions. But actually I shouldn't be, early this year Rush, Sean and others had lots of seminar callers who would rail against Bush on the subject of immigration. I noticed that beyond Scheifer comments that CNN is planning on a new news special on illegal immigration. The press knows that this is a sore spot for Bush on the right. And they are starting to needle it for all its worth
4 posted on 10/12/2004 7:30:22 PM PDT by jbwbubba (stunner)
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To: midwyf

VEry clever of Bob to split the base without leaving fingerprints. no thanks. After the election.


5 posted on 10/12/2004 7:30:57 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: ArmyBratCutie
I know everyone says WAIT and complain about this after the election

Yeah, I've heard that.

By 2014 there will be 45 million illegal aliens in our country, and our elections will have been completely undermined by then."

6 posted on 10/12/2004 7:34:37 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: midwyf

Illegal immigration certainly depresses wages. With a labor shortage, many of those jobs americans won't do..would have to pay a decent wage and it would get some of the couch potatoes to work.
This should be a big issue with the young marginally employed and the minority citizens.
I won't vote again for a Republican who won't support greater immigration control. If we jailed some of the illegals in a hot SW prison..it would slow down the stream.
We could put some of the employers in with them. We would need to build a lot of temporary large desert prisons..kind of like the temp stuff at Rikers Island.


7 posted on 10/12/2004 7:34:53 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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It's a winner for Kerry. Kerry will make some nothing comment about putting a few more National Guard at the border. He's done it before.

It will give people "hope" - that he's at least a little better than Bush. Bush will make some statement about hispanics which most citizen hispanics disagree with.

We'll see. Rove the "Genius" has Bush saying illegals don't effect jobs here, Iraq is the "center" of the WOT, allows two years of Talking Points about missed "allies" to go unchallenged and unexplained.


8 posted on 10/12/2004 7:36:06 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: gs-conserv
But Huntersville police are still looking for a seventh man.

Well, I know who The Third Man was: Harry Lime.


9 posted on 10/12/2004 7:38:25 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: fooman

"Very clever of Bob to split the base without leaving fingerprints."

Yep. but Bush was warned long, long ago. That cheap labor campaign contribution pool must have been too tasty.

Bush will get nailed on "energy policy" too. Kerry will BS it with "change", giving the people hope. Bush is being prepped for lame defenses about drilling.

Just my prediction...


10 posted on 10/12/2004 7:38:57 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

If Bush says that illegals take jobs americans won't do..he will loose the election. He will loose the vote of many conservatives. It is sort of a scorched earth policy.
Please don't let him say it.


11 posted on 10/12/2004 7:39:18 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: gs-conserv

Do you have a link for the article you claim was posted on Oct 12th? My search didn't find anything.


12 posted on 10/12/2004 7:40:14 PM PDT by bayourod (Pantyhose are a nuisance. Three thousand people being vaporized is terror..)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

yep, you're right....
I was even so upset about everyone dogging me ( libs on other sites ) about Pres Bush and illegals, I wrote to the White House and BEGGED them/him to do something about it..I said "Your loyal supporters are getting killed on this issue"......
I got back a reply that had nothing to do with what I had written about....so I gave up :(


13 posted on 10/12/2004 7:42:06 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: jbwbubba
Just a though. Maybe Bush should do his job and enforce the law. Then evil liberals wouldn't be able to unfairly criticize him about his failure to secure the border in a time of war.
14 posted on 10/12/2004 7:42:41 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: gs-conserv
"a probable" question about illegal immigration"

OMG! A question?

The 5000 pound gorilla standing in the middle of the Republican platform must be giving way.

Do they dare bring this up with *a* question during the debate? This is so pathetic. The biggest, most threatening crisis facing this country, as our borders now resemble a Boston marathon of millions, creating epic fraud, coast to coast crime, not to mention the titanic national security time bomb it's created...And they may pose a probably question?

Those in DC are starting to feel the heat, otherwise, this wouldn't even be mentioned. I wonder how long they can continue to pour the third world into our country, before things get real ugly.

15 posted on 10/12/2004 7:43:07 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: gs-conserv

I'd like to know who is telling President Bush not to crack down on illegals. I have to believe he would get more support if he did something about the issue. It's getting out of hand -

President Bush is getting bad advice, in my opinion - but then I don't see the Socialist Democrats pushing the issue either. So if the question is asked - it will be interesting to listen to the answer from both sides -


16 posted on 10/12/2004 7:43:39 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: Joe Hadenuf
By 2014 there will be 45 million illegal aliens in our country, and our elections will have been completely undermined by then.

And the Demonrat dream of a one-party dictatorship will have been realized unless we do something yesterday.

17 posted on 10/12/2004 7:44:00 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: Oldexpat
If Bush says that illegals take jobs americans won't do

His proxies have already said it. Kerry believes it to, but is too smart to blurt it. Both parties are under the delusion, funded by the NIF's and others, that Hispanic citizens support amnesties and such.

The only person running who has made a coherent statement about illegals effecting jobs is Ralph Nader.

18 posted on 10/12/2004 7:44:44 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Bush is missing in action on border control.


19 posted on 10/12/2004 7:45:09 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: Oldexpat

He will say it.


20 posted on 10/12/2004 7:45:42 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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