Summary of UN gun debate in Kings College, London - NRA's Wayne LaPierre vs IANSA's Rebecca Peters

Pay Per View | 10-12-04 | Dan from MI

[Dan from Michigan]

I recommend watching this one. It gives a good picture of what we are up against and shows more than what I can use from my notes. I don't think many converts were made from the debate, but hopefully the gun owners who aren't activists wake up. Klinton may be gone, but freedoms grabbers aren't gone. They are alive and well, and one of them is named John Kerry.

[Lurker]

Mr. Lappierre should have pointed out that the governments that had the 'strongest institutions' have done most of the killing in the last hundred years.

I believe it's around 200 million or so at last count.

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[nwrep]

One question: What did Ms. Peters look like?

[Blood of Tyrants]

Peters doesn't support banning all guns. She supports licensing, registration, bans on some categories of guns - including high powered, rapid fire, and limits on amount of guns owned.

No, just any gun with enough power to kill a tyrant would be banned from civilian ownership by Peters and her band of fools.

My screen name isn't just a name. It is a mindset and a way of life.

Here is a little quote from Henry Waxman:

"If someone is so fearful that, that they’re going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all!"

HOW DARE WE THINK THAT WE CAN PROTECT OUR RIGHTS!

[Dan from Michigan]

She looked like a stereotypical leftist.
Her hair is shorter than mine, and I haven't even grown my out like I did last year.

[supercat]

LaPierre - Quotes Peters from CNN supporting a ban on all guns that shoot over 100 meters. That's a football field. Also cites IANSA pamphlets.

Ban anything that shoots over 100 meters? Heck, a Red Ryder would probably do that.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Aren't Red Ryders also outlawed in England?

[Free Trapper]

I hear she has three eyes and the one in her forehead is bovine. ;)

[fire_eye]

It's too bad the forum didn't allow for asking the sniveling b***h whether it was better that someone who is threatened by a criminal or a rogue Government, should be allowed to defend themself, or whether it's better that in such cases the individual simply be forced to perish "in the public interest".

That's the question that needs to be asked of these Socialist vipers, and asked over and over and over again while they try to sidestep the issue and avoid answering, until they finally crumble on camera.

[P8riot]

Don't forget to vote in the debate poll.

Here is the Link

and the password gun2004

Vote as often as you like, but use a different e-mail address each time

[Crazieman]

Savage: Mean-faced clipped-haired

[coydog]

Sounds like a Kelly Reno-ish warthog.

I'd like to pin her down (like an insect on a specimen plate, yeah, sure) and get the skinny on what makes her mind work. It basically confirms that Ms. Peters' "work" won't end with civil disarmament but has everything to do with throwing herself on the side of "government" against the individual in the sovereignty debate.

[Oztrich Boy]

Peters said that governments are needed and countered with the world moving away from Thomas Hobbes.

OK this makes no sense. It is the Hobbesian view that governments are needed to control the savagery of mankind and maintain order. The Peters view of One Ring to Rule Them All is inherently Hobbesian.

[Oztrich Boy]

Even on Depleted Uranium she was refered to as "the unwoman"







OK maybe it was "the UN woman", but there are times when strict accuracy may be discarded.

[Stateline]

No guns should be owned for self defense reasons according to Peters????...Oh...I see...when some whack job busts into your house at 2:00 a.m....just sit down and offer to make coffee and have a chat as to why their bad childhood caused all this...NOT!...The second I realize someone has broken in....their ass is mine.

[Hardastarboard]

We are all citizens of the world.

G-- D--- it!! I am NOT a citizen of the world. If by some chance I missed the fact that I am, I hereby and publicly renounce my citizenship in the world. I am a citizen of the United States of America, at least until John Kerry or his ilk gets elected and sells us out to the UN by treaty.

Peters said that governments are needed and countered with the world moving away from Thomas Hobbes.

To paraphrase the Greek philosopher, "Only the dead have seen the last of Thomas Hobbes". Human nature hasn't changed in the six thousand years of recorded history, and sure as hell isn't going to change any time soon. What a fool.

[normy]

Perhaps Lapierre was able to convert the English who saw it and remind the men at least, what the hell it is to be free. We need more global debate on this subject and more nations like England and Australia to return freedom to their people or their people to take their freedom back.

[redgolum]

If the blue hats try to outlaw guns in the US, it may get ugly.

I think they know that, otherwise we would have gone the way of the UK and Australia a long time ago.

[risk]

Just as in Mein Kampf, they're spelling out what they plan to do to western civilization first. NEVER let it be said that tyrants do not trumpet to the world what they plan to do.

[Little Ray]

This Peters creature would rather see a woman raped and strangled to death with her pantyhose than defending herself with a handgun. I am certain this represents the UN position on firearms and self defense as well.

That is all you really need to know about the UN stance on private ownership of firearms.