[sonofatpatcher2]

eFing's discharge is here: http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf

I've Goggled "Title 10, U.S. Code, Section 1162" - "Title 10, U.S. Code, Section 1163" and "BUPERSMAN 3830300" and get next to nothing. Does anyone out there have any idea what these actually mean?

[Blogger]

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§§ 1162, 1163. Repealed. Pub. L. 103–337, div. A, title XVI, § 1662(i)(2), Oct. 5, 1994, 108 Stat. 2998]


Release date: 2004-03-18

Section 1162, acts Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 89; Sept. 2, 1958, Pub. L. 85–861, § 1(27), 72 Stat. 1450, related to discharge of Reserves. See sections 12681 and 12682 of this title.
Section 1163, acts Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 89; Sept. 7, 1962, Pub. L. 87–651, title I, § 106(a), 76 Stat. 508; Dec. 30, 1987, Pub. L. 100–224, § 4, 101 Stat. 1538, related to limitations on separation of Reserve members from their reserve components. See sections 12683 to 12686 of this title.

[politicket]

John Kerry was discharged from active duty on 3 Jan. 1970. He should have had a DD 214 stating that fact. Where is it? A DD 214 is issued whenever a change of status occurs.

There is a very suspicious looking letter from 1978 (Jimmy Carter) that talks about an honorable discharge, but this not a standard letter or form. Where is his ORIGINAL discharge form?

[Steel and Fire and Stone]

BUPERSMAN 3830300

Section 38303xx is the section dealing with procedures for letters of resignation. Don't bother getting to excited over the U.S. codes and BUPERSMAN. Every action that the Navy takes (i.e. every document) will cite an authority, and these will generally be pretty .."general".

Example

More "interesting" history. BUPERS used to be "The Bureau of Personnel, or maybe B. of Naval P., can't recall. So "BUPERS" regs were simply directives from the DoN Personnel department. Then they changed it to NMPC (Naval Manpower & Personnel Command) and kept the BUPERS instructions as BUPERSMAN (because the old salts hated NMPC so much they declined to change the title of the documents).

SFS

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Went to the US code site. Sections 1162 and 1163 were repealed. They refer to sections 12683 through 12686. There it gets fuzzy as the sections could mean plenty or not much as to clarify what happened. We need more specifics.

[Joe Miner]

According to findlaw those sections have been repealed, but they dealt with separation from the Armed Forces. U.S. Code 10 Sections 1162 1163

[Excuse_Me]

(6) When a member of the IRR, whose
enlistment or appointment provided
that the service concerned could be
performed entirely in the IRR (as opposed
to the Selected Reserve), is identified
as an unsatisfactory participant,
a board of officers shall be convened as
required by 10 U.S.C. 1163 to consider
the circumstances and recommend appropriate
action. When an individual is
retained as a result of an approved
board action, no further board action
shall be required before discharge if the
individual fails to take affirmative action
in an effort to upgrade the tentative
characterization of service.

[An American In Dairyland]

>>> eFing's discharge is here: http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf <<<<

The document above is not Kerry's Honorable Discharge certificate. If you read through this document you will note that the Honorable Discharge certificate under #3 was enclosed with this transmittal document.

I don't know whether or not Kerry has scanned the actual Honorable Discharge certificate on his website but if it is there it would be a more "fancy" looking form something like a high school diploma looks.