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Bush uses diplomacy but he doesn't govern with global consent.

Bush doesn't wait on a U.N. that puts tyranical nations on human rights commissions.

Bush doesn't ask the leave of bribed countries who sit on the U.N. Security Counsel.

Kerry's first mentor: Kerry's World: Father Knows Best***...."Americans," he [Richard Kerry] writes, "are inclined to see the world and foreign affairs in black and white." They celebrate their own form of government and denigrate all others, making them guilty of what he calls "ethnocentric accommodation -- everyone ought to be like us." As a result, America has committed the "fatal error" of "propagating democracy" and fallen prey to "the siren's song of promoting human rights," falsely assuming that our values and institutions are a good fit in the Third World. And, just as Americans exaggerate their own goodness, they exaggerate their enemies' badness. The Soviet Union wasn't nearly as imperialistic as American politicians warned, Kerry argues. "Seeing the Soviet Union as the aggressor in every instance, and the U.S. as only reacting defensively, relieves an American observer from the need to see any parallel between our use of military power in distant parts of the world, and the Soviet use of military power outside the Soviet Union," he writes. He further claims that "Third world Marxist movements were autonomous national movements" -- outside Moscow's orbit. The book culminates in a plea for a hardheaded, realist foreign policy that removes any pretense of U.S. moral superiority. .......***

1 posted on 10/13/2004 1:21:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The premise of this article:

Those who beleive that an internationally agressive America can do wrong and that its actions must be supported in all circumstances are essentially nationalists not patriots

is correct.

The liberal, Bush-bashing garbage used to back up this premise, on the other hand, is Bull$hit.


2 posted on 10/13/2004 1:28:54 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is a badly written article with holes in it bigger than an old tennis racquet.


3 posted on 10/13/2004 1:29:53 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In the heyday of feudal monarchies, the sovereign's actions defined right and wrong; the king's word was both law and verdict. It didn't matter if the king demonstrated sound reasoning by any objective standard; he ruled by divine authority, to be questioned by no mortal.

Absolute, total nonsense. Lies and slander from beginning to end.

By contrast, here is what one of the greatest feudal monarchs wrote to his son and successor:

"Maintain the good customs of thy realm and abolish the bad. Be not covetous against thy people and do not burden them with taxes and imposts save when thou art in great need.

"If thou hast any great burden weighing upon thy heart, tell it to thy confessor or to some right worthy man who is not full of vain words. Thou shalt be able to bear it more easily.

"See that thou hast in thy company men, whether religious or lay, who are right worthy and loyal and not full of covetousness, and confer with them oft; and fly and eschew the company of the wicked. Hearken willingly to the Word of God and keep it in thine heart, and seek diligently after prayers and indulgences. Love all that is good and profitable and hate all that is evil, wheresoever it may be.

"Let none be so bold as to say before thee any word that would draw or move to sin, or so bold as to speak evil behind another's back for pleasure's sake; nor do thou suffer any word in disparagement of God and of His saints to be spoken in thy presence. Give often thanks to God for all the good things he has bestowed on thee, so that thou be accounted worthy to receive more.

"In order to do justice and right to thy subjects, be upright and firm, turning neither to the right hand nor to the left, but always to what is just; and do thou maintain the cause of the poor until such a time as the truth is made clear. And if anyone has an action against thee, make full inquiry until thou knowest the truth; for thus shall thy counsellors judge the more boldly according to the truth, whether for thee or against.

"If thou holdest aught that belongeth to another, whether by thine own act or the act of thy predecessors, and the matter be certain, make restitution without delay. If the matter be doubtful, cause inquiry to be made by wise men diligently and promptly.

"Give heed that thy servants and thy subjects live under thee in peace and uprightness. Especially maintain the good cities and commons of thy realm in the same estate and with the same franchises as they enjoyed under thy predecessors; and if there be aught to amend, amend and set it right, and keep them in thy favor and love. For because of the power and wealth of the great cities, thine own subjects, and especially thy peers and thy barons and foreigners also will fear to undertake aught against thee."

Written by whom? Who but Louis IX of France, now and most justly Saint Louis.

5 posted on 10/13/2004 1:56:46 AM PDT by John Locke (Platonist, Monarchist, Independent conservative)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
On one side of the line, half the nation believes that cooperation with the rest of the world is a contemptible, repugnant practice borne of softness, weakness, wimpness. The half on the other side believes that global consensus driven by American principles and values is the ultimate manifestation of authority and leadership.

Uh, no, that isn't an accurate representation of the former's position. Bobby Steinback obviously isn't able to discern between those of us who refuse to give a veto of our United States policy over to France, Germany, the U.N., or environmentalists worshipping trees (Bush and other conservatives) and those who think acquiescence to these forces shows nuance, tolerance, and intelligence (Kerry, Neville Chamberlain, and other liberals).

Bobby "Surrender, Dorothy, to the Terrorists" Steinbeck just doesn't get it!

7 posted on 10/13/2004 2:31:28 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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