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Less Seen TV: NBC Viewership Takes a Tumble (as liberal politics trumps profits)
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 13, 2004 | BROOKS BARNES

Posted on 10/13/2004 6:17:02 AM PDT by OESY

The peacock's feathers are fraying. After more than a decade as the dominant broadcast network, General Electric Co.'s NBC is having a rocky fall.

So far this season, the network has endured double-digit ratings declines in both total viewers and viewers aged 18 to 49, the demographic that advertisers pay a premium to reach.

Particularly troubling: For the first time since 1987, NBC is losing the ratings race on Thursdays, the night that by far draws the most advertising dollars and has been the bulwark of NBC's "Must See TV" franchise.

NBC Universal Chairman Bob Wright, publicly putting a brave face on things at a Goldman Sachs conference last week, said the network is "performing very well." Still, executives are trying to stop the bleeding. NBC last week yanked the poorly performing "Last Comic Standing" from its schedule. Still, some analysts say the network is limited in the amount of immediate triage it can perform....

Other new series just aren't performing: "LAX" has fallen 43% in viewers 18 to 49 since its preseason premiere Sept. 13, "Hawaii" is down 38% and the expensive animated comedy "Father of the Pride" is off 34%.

While audience falloff from a show's premiere is expected, these declines are steeper than the industry considers acceptable. Overall, NBC is down 12% in total viewers and 16% in the 18-to-49 age category.

NBC is facing powerful competition from Viacom Inc.'s CBS, which has improved its ratings on six nights and is winning Thursdays, largely because of its hot "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" franchise....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abc; bobwright; cbs; fox; ge; goldmansachs; lowellsinger; nbc; sgcowen; universal; zucker
FALL BACK

Average TV viewership of people 18 to 49 years old, between Sept. 20 and Oct. 10:

TOTAL VIEWERS, IN MILLIONS / CHANGE FROM LAST YEAR
ABC 5.1 / 3%
CBS 5.4 / 11%
NBC 4.97 / -16%

Sources: Nielsen Media Research, the networks

1 posted on 10/13/2004 6:17:03 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

How sad. I didn't know ABCCBSNBC were still on the air. I haven't watched any of them since cable came along.


2 posted on 10/13/2004 6:21:34 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: OESY

I wouldn't necessarily say the decline in network ratings is due to politics. I would be more inclined to think it is because network television programming is at it's worst in television history.

There are far better forms of viewing entertainment other than morally reprehensible "reality" TV.


3 posted on 10/13/2004 6:24:36 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: OESY
The bad news is that SeeBS is winning.

Oh well, they're all losing - but now SeeBS is top maggot on the dung heap.

4 posted on 10/13/2004 6:25:26 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I remember ABCBSNBC back when I was a kid. Didn't know they were still around.
What ever happened to the Edsel by the way?
5 posted on 10/13/2004 6:33:48 AM PDT by Dallas59 (I'm a "Scumbag" who has been "Intimidating" the Press since 2003!)
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To: OESY
I used to be a big Law & Order fan. Ever since last years Bush blasting episode that had most of the main characters trashing the President I have stopped watching it. I made a conscience effort to watch CSI:NY instead this year.

As for other shows, I have stopped watching another one time favorite of mine, ER. The show is suppose to be a medical drama set in a Chicago hospital. Instead they have the main characters fighting a war in Africa while at the same time trashing the US. The show promotes every leftist cause. It was no longer enjoyable, so I turned it off.

Last night I was switching the channels between innings of the Boston-NY ballgame and came across another version of Law & Order. The shows premise was about a right-wing mom versus a Howard Stern type radio jock. I only saw a few scenes but the right wing character was made out to be a wack job and the radio guy was the victim.

And NBC wonders why ratings are down?
6 posted on 10/13/2004 6:34:10 AM PDT by Republican Red (A Global Freak'n Test ???????)
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To: Republican Red

I agree that these enterprises have 'edsel'ed out. I know noone who watches networks anymore except for an occasional golf tournament which is recorded for later viewing without the Nanz 'touchy/feely' inanity and commercials. Better still is to watch with the tube muted!


7 posted on 10/13/2004 6:37:04 AM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: OESY

All these bozo's have to do is put on some family friendly programing and tell the news straight instead of showing such biased stuff. Can't they look at Fox news and learn a lesson? Apparently not!


8 posted on 10/13/2004 6:37:39 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: OESY

They are on their way out, but they just don't seem to get why or how.


9 posted on 10/13/2004 6:40:11 AM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: Dallas59

I'm wanting to buy a 49 Hudson as soon as they come out!


10 posted on 10/13/2004 6:44:01 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: OESY

I like the original CSI, but I watch the reruns on Spike so I won't give SeeBS the ratings.


11 posted on 10/13/2004 6:45:38 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Dan Rather plans to spend the winter in Valley Forgery.-hflynn)
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To: OESY

What do you expect when you put a hack like Zucker in charge of the Entertainment Division!


12 posted on 10/13/2004 6:50:35 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP
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To: Republican Red
NBC is just gonna keep adding different variations of L&O and Fear Factor while Monk packs in the ratings on basic cable!

Monk BTW is an NBC/Universal production.

13 posted on 10/13/2004 6:53:14 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP
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To: Conspiracy Guy
How sad. I didn't know ABCCBSNBC were still on the air. I haven't watched any of them since cable came along.

My two teenage sons have never watched a minute of non-sports network programming in their lives and I think they're pretty typical of their generation. If you think the nets are in trouble now, wait ten years. Dinosaurs, every one, and the asteroid has already hit.

14 posted on 10/13/2004 6:58:16 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: Sunshine Sister

Watch the WB!!! SMALLVILLE, GILMORE GIRLS, 7th HEAVEN, JACK & BOBBY and EVERWOOD are all great family shows!


15 posted on 10/13/2004 7:02:10 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I don't watch ABCCBSNBC either they offer nothing.


16 posted on 10/13/2004 7:02:16 AM PDT by Big Horn (A waist is a terrible thing to mind.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I didn't know ABCCBSNBC were still on the air. I haven't watched any of them since cable came along.

Ditto!

17 posted on 10/13/2004 7:04:38 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Big Horn

I also, have not watch ABCNBCCBS in years! Seems that the trend is increasing!


18 posted on 10/13/2004 7:04:49 AM PDT by ktw (kakkate koi)
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To: Republic Rocker

I love SMALLVILLE. :)


19 posted on 10/13/2004 7:09:04 AM PDT by TheBigB (Save time! Boycott everything!)
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To: Republican Red

I happened to channel surf across a moment of 'the Oval Office' last night. It may have been a repeat on cable. I don't even know what night it is on normally.

The scene showed one of the President's staff members facing down a general in the White House. I happened across the scene at the moment this general headed for the door stating that he'd air his greviences in the press. The staff member said, "Oh no you won't."

As the general turned to face the staff member, she took him to task for fronting for 'republican' contractors and attacked him for wearing a medal he wasn't qualified to wear.

Why the word 'republican' needed to be inserted, I don't know, but this is the typical scene I'd opted not to view by never watching the program.

When networks turn out this filth, they are sending 50% of their audience to the sidelines.

I must admit, I wouldn't watch a program that had Martin Scheen in it. There's been very few more anti-American communist sympatizing socialists in our nation than this piece of cow excrement.


20 posted on 10/13/2004 7:09:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: OESY

I watched Father of Pride last night. It is NOT a kiddy show. The main (supposedly "good") character stole a tv from his neighbor and was never caught, then his father pinned the blame on another neighbor, (white trash clone), who "deserved it" for having a loud mouth. Stealing is okay as long as you don't get caught. This show is a moral vaccum. DO NOT LET THE RUGRATS WATCH.


21 posted on 10/13/2004 7:11:20 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: ktw

Add me to the Chorus who (other than sports) hasn't watched the big three in years. Give me ESPN, Fox News, The History Channel and the NFL total package and that's all I would need. In fact, I got a new TV for my study at home in July and the only channels I've ever watched on it were ESPN, Fox News and History Channel.


22 posted on 10/13/2004 7:13:56 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: OESY

Note to NBC's affiliates: CBS's affiliates aren't the only ones with a death wish apparently. Well, you can't say you weren't warned.


23 posted on 10/13/2004 7:16:33 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Republican Red

I was probably ERs biggest fan. I quit them for good last year when they just had to make little jabs at Bush or republicans anytime they could. If they truly wanted to be realistic, they'd know that most doctors are right-wing. I can't believe these writers are so determined to make their little political statements that they don't even care about offending a large part of their audience. Perhaps a good landslide on November 2nd will wake them up.


24 posted on 10/13/2004 7:17:54 AM PDT by Wsno1fan
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To: OESY

I used to work for GE under Jack Welch's reign. During that time, he had a policy - if you weren't number 1 or 2 in your world market, ya got dumped. ie consumer electronics. Wonder
if GE has the same policy on the books.


25 posted on 10/13/2004 7:25:34 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: jalisco555

I agree totally.


26 posted on 10/13/2004 7:26:01 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: Big Horn

Non existent.


27 posted on 10/13/2004 7:33:06 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: kcvl

If there are local weather warnings, I'll put one of them in the window.


28 posted on 10/13/2004 7:34:02 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: OESY

WARNING: This post contains some descriptions that may be offensive. I only post it to show the depravity.


Last Comic Standing wasn't cancelled because of ratings. Dreamworks' Barry Katz muscled his way into the time slot.

I saw the first episode of Father of the Pride. It was the last one also. It is very adult-themed. I would consider never having children see another Dreamworks production because of this crap.

In the first show, the lion, voiced by Goodman, was talking to his wife about having alone time. He sprayed a smiley face on his chest with whipped cream. Before they could get going, a neighbor dropped by, carrying her cat, sobbing.

While the wife was distracted comforting her neighbor, you heard licking and rustling in the background. inally the camera panned to show the lion sitting on the couch with the cat between his legs, looking up at him, white cream on his face. THe dialogue was, Lion:"Would you stop that!?" Cat:"Well, it doesn't look like your wife is going to take care of you. Someone's gotta." It was an obvious inference to oral sex. The picture looked like they drew it from one of the spam sex email pictures that clog our inboxes every day.

I apologize for being so graphic. I wanted to inform those that had no idea.


29 posted on 10/13/2004 7:35:50 AM PDT by Sensei Ern
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To: Republican Red

CSI:NY is a fantastic show. I hope it stays that way.


30 posted on 10/13/2004 9:12:24 AM PDT by Gunder
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To: OESY

The major networks should just drop their news organizations (i.e.,
their Democratic 527 operations), except for maybe FOX.


31 posted on 10/13/2004 9:14:27 AM PDT by VOA
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To: OESY

Looks like I'm not missing anything on the major networks. Haven't watched a regular network show in years.


32 posted on 10/13/2004 9:18:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: OESY
Less Seen TV: NBC Viewership Takes a Tumble (as liberal politics trumps profits)

Jay Leno outing himself as a liberal probably won't help his ratings either.

33 posted on 10/13/2004 10:27:22 AM PDT by RJL
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To: OESY

Networks are dinosaurs....in 50 years they won't exist.


34 posted on 10/13/2004 10:30:31 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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