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Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge
NY Sun ^ | 13 Oct 04 | THOMAS LIPSCOMB

Posted on 10/13/2004 7:26:00 AM PDT by gunnygail

An official Navy document on Senator Kerry's campaign Web site listed as Mr. Kerry's "Honorable Discharge from the Reserves" opens a door on a well kept secret about his military service.

The document is a form cover letter in the name of the Carter administration's secretary of the Navy, W. Graham Claytor. It describes Mr. Kerry's discharge as being subsequent to the review of "a board of officers." This in it self is unusual. There is nothing about an ordinary honorable discharge action in the Navy that requires a review by a board of officers.

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Woodrow Wilson threw Eugene Debs, a former presidential candidate, in prison just for demonstrating for peace negotiations with Germany during World War I. No court overturned his imprisonment. He had to receive a pardon from President Harding.

It is starkly evident that we have SERIOUSLY lost our moral compass.
1 posted on 10/13/2004 7:26:00 AM PDT by gunnygail
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To: gunnygail

Let's see if this reaches beyond the NY Sun. Keep posting it and keep sending it to your lists.


2 posted on 10/13/2004 7:27:36 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: gunnygail
Did you glance at the Breaking News column or do a search first?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1243544/posts

3 posted on 10/13/2004 7:29:10 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: gunnygail

It's about time!


4 posted on 10/13/2004 7:29:13 AM PDT by martian_22 (Who tells you what you are?)
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To: Cultural Jihad

I just post willy-nilly. Same way I drive down the road. Left lane, right lane, all the same to me. How about you?


5 posted on 10/13/2004 7:31:52 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the VRWC. --Black Helo crewman. (I operate the Liberal tinfoil hat scanner.)
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This is the third time I've seen this article today ... same title each time.


6 posted on 10/13/2004 7:33:51 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: gunnygail
Ask the overworked moderators to help you understand the rules of the road.
7 posted on 10/13/2004 7:35:46 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: gunnygail
I just post willy-nilly

Congratulations.

LVM

8 posted on 10/13/2004 7:37:42 AM PDT by LasVegasMac ("5 times ain't sh!t - My Daddy won here 10 times" DEjr)
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To: gunnygail

The article says "There is one odd coincidence that gives some weight to the possibility that Mr. Kerry was dishonorably discharged." Technically incorrect.

Unless the law was very different in 1972 (and I doubt it was), an officer like Kerry could not have been "dishonorably discharged." He could have been "dismissed" (the functional equivalent of a DD), but only pursuant to a court-martial. I see no indication that he was ever court-martialed, and since courts-martial are a matter of public record, we would all know about it if he had been.

On the other hand, he could have received an involuntary administrative discharge, which could have been characterized as "honorable," "general," or "under other than honorable conditions (UOTHC)."

These may sound like technical points, but unlike the MSM, we need to be accurate and credible. A DD (or dismissal) implies a criminal conviction. An administrative separation does not.


9 posted on 10/13/2004 7:39:42 AM PDT by CaptainVictory
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To: gunnygail

Eddie Slovik was executed for less.


10 posted on 10/13/2004 7:41:50 AM PDT by Westlander (BzzZZZ Pffft Gone)
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That is what I always thought as well. Officers get OTH's and a dismissal. Pretty serious stuff. Only saw a couple of zero's get hammered like that and they seriously deserved it. I've read that Hanoi John applied for an upgrade to his dischrge under Slick Willie's Admin. Truth to this anyone?


11 posted on 10/13/2004 7:42:18 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the VRWC. --Black Helo crewman. (I operate the Liberal tinfoil hat scanner.)
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To: Westlander

Very true. Could you imagine what would have happened to some schmoe in WW2 who tried to deal with the Japanese/Germans and the public got their hands on him/her?
Heck, Tokyo Rose did 12 YEARS for her gig.


12 posted on 10/13/2004 7:43:36 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the VRWC. --Black Helo crewman. (I operate the Liberal tinfoil hat scanner.)
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To: gunnygail; Cultural Jihad
"I just post willy-nilly. Same way I drive down the road. Left lane, right lane, all the same to me. How about you?"

ROFLMAOASTD Geez! I just LOVE a woman with a sense of humor!

Uh, Cultural Jihad.....I'm not sure but I THINK that that is a GOTCHA! :-)

13 posted on 10/13/2004 7:48:51 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron (It translates as the Great, Big Salsa Dancer, nothing more. :-))
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To: gunnygail

Please use the Search tool or look at the sidebar. How many of these threads will there be? It's just too hard to try to read them all. It's much better when you can just go to one thread to see the discussion.


14 posted on 10/13/2004 7:50:42 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: El Gran Salseron

1. I'm a man. Retired Marine.

2. Just a tweak to CJ, nothing major. Some news items need to be seen again and again for those of us who pop in and out and have slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww PC's.


15 posted on 10/13/2004 7:55:30 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the VRWC. --Black Helo crewman. (I operate the Liberal tinfoil hat scanner.)
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To: gunnygail

Generally, by 11:00am, stories like this have been posted at least 15 times. This one was quite active when I checked at 7:30.


16 posted on 10/13/2004 7:57:45 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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Well, like Chesty Puller always said, "There's always some poor bastard who doesn't get the word."

Better to over publicize vice not. This election is to crucial NOT to hit Hanoi John from every angle.


17 posted on 10/13/2004 8:01:06 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the VRWC. --Black Helo crewman. (I operate the Liberal tinfoil hat scanner.)
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"I just post willy-nilly. Same way I drive down the road. Left lane, right lane, all the same to me. How about you?"

Lol, I miss the old days when you could bump a worthy post to the top to keep it on fhe front page. All post should be ranked by interest.

This was worth reposting.

18 posted on 10/13/2004 8:24:27 AM PDT by bluecollarman (Kerry, I want my Nuclear Bunker Buster delivered on time!)
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To: gunnygail

Lurch, if this less than honorable discharge story is true, you're too stupid to be President.


October Surprise?


19 posted on 10/13/2004 8:31:10 AM PDT by trentk (trentk)
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To: CaptainVictory
If there is anything to this, it is probably a "resignation for the good of the service." That would leave him with an "honorable conditions" discharge but would be almost the same as an "other than honorable discharge" for an enlisted man.
20 posted on 10/13/2004 8:34:17 AM PDT by etcb
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