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Some real dirt on the Democrats.
Jericho Wall

Posted on 10/13/2004 10:29:55 AM PDT by jericho wall

We are constantly on the defensive from repeated attacks with real thin substance from the Democrats. Now we are heavily on the defensive. Never a good position to be in so close to the big event. And we don’t seem to have any real dirt about the other side.

Let me provide some real dirt on the Democrats.

This is about their enormous appetite for corruption. Featuring Walter Mondale and one of his partners in corruption the late Thomas J. Watson Jr. The late Senator Henry M. Jackson tried to help fight back. Then there´s the endless list of the companies, institutions, our major Allies, etc., who automatically embraced Mondale´s requests. IBM, Lucent Technologies, ITT, NCR, DEC, Motorola, Sprint, ALCATEL, the German government, the UK government, the Australian government, Coopers & Lybrand (now PWC), Clifford Chance, etc., all feature prominently in this 25 year mess.

Mondale/Watson began when a 1978 Minnesota trial threatened the state’s sole (slowly failing) computer company, coinciding with a momentous 1978-1980 attack on IBM’s global dominance via a marriage of a giant European comms operation with the finest in Japan’s computer industry: the Watsons’ long term AT&T nightmare magnified enormously. Both problems from the same man. So Mondale and Watson got together. This is just the beginning of half the story. The other half being an atrocious, 40+ year, Democratic corruption saga……


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: continuedbykerry; longtermcorruption; topdemocrats
Seems we are constantly on the defensive from repeated attacks with real thin substance from the Democrats. Attacks on Dick Cheney because he once ran Halliburton (cleanly); counterfeited lies about the President’s record as a young man, etc., etc. Although they can find nothing substantial, this just keeps on and on, and now as a result we are apparently heavily on the defensive. Never a good position to be in so close to the big event. And we don’t seem to have any real dirt about the other side.

Let me provide some real dirt on the Democrats. This is about their enormous appetite for corruption via any and every means available (and these are enormous when backed by Presidential power). This story goes right to the heart of the Kerry Edwards ticket, and tracks back more than 40 years in the first of the 2 paired sagas of appalling long term Democratic corruption. This enormous paired corruption is still as active and as deadly effective as it was when one saga started in 1962, and the other in 1979. And this is only one stall in the Democrat’s immense Augean stables of corruption.

Who’s involved? Walter Mondale and his partner in corruption Thomas J. Watson Jr. (the late top IBM man) formed and vigorously directed the 1979 saga. A top Senator and one of Japan’s greatest industrial families (and their empire) formed and directed the 1962 saga. And then there’s the endless list of the companies, institutions, professional firms, judiciary, the services of our major Allies, etc., who automatically embrace and back up this heinous mess, to say nothing of the hordes of self seeking executives and professionals in the US government who seek to boost their mediocre careers by secretly supporting such totally illicit evil.

IBM, Lucent Technologies, ITT, NCR, DEC, Motorola, Sprint, ALCATEL, the German government, the UK government, the Australian government, Coopers & Lybrand (now PWC), Clifford Chance, all feature prominently in Mondale/Watson. Lucent and IBM star in one event that is possibly the largest software business bribe ever (now floating around DOJ somewhere, possibly into oblivion via Democratic politics). And there are legions of other organizations. Other governments are duped into acquiescence. No one ever questions their instructions, and no one is ever called to account. No tactic is ever too immoral or illegal, no target is spared, and no usable government or industry asset bypassed, no matter how illegal. American lawyers of all levels are routinely turned, or threatened and chased off, or automatically flee when approached. These horrendous Democratic corruption schemes get deeply established and develop an appalling long term life all of their own.

What’s all this got to do with Kerry Edwards? Just about everything. These two, the empty headed flip flop merchant, and the ever vacant-smiling star truant of the senate, are exactly the ticket the old democratic establishment, led by Mondale, desperately seek so they can continue to develop their enormous appetite for corruption: Mondale’s ticket back to the big time. Clinton Gore had their weaknesses, but they knew their power and held onto it largely. For Mondale and the Democratic establishment, these two promise to provide a replay of Carter and his immensely dangerous naivety and looseness. Remember, Mondale’s long-term chief henchman selected Edwards, the Democratic trial lawyer’s favorite, to be VP. And you can bet the selection came with a stiff price.

Mondale/Watson began with a 1978 Minnesota trial that threatened the state’s sole (slowly failing) computer company, which coincided with a momentous 1978-1980 attack on IBM’s global dominance via a marriage of a giant European comms operation with the finest in Japan’s computer industry: the Watsons’ long term AT&T nightmare magnified enormously. Both events were the work of the same man: Edward Wrathall. So Mondale and Watson got together. The trial was destroyed, and the European-Japanese computer marriage stopped, and then Mondale/Watson continued. To date their score in stopping major IBM competition and other industry shaking initiatives from this man is simply stunning: The development of revolutionary voice and data comms ruined in 1985. A top-level effort to bring China into the global software world stopped in 1996, and again in 2004. A major effort to bring the entire Arab world (plus major neighbors) into the IT services world stopped in 2001. Here was Watson, previously a major long-term monopoly target for the DOJ, able to crush significant opposition globally, impervious to any restraint, and now with the government’s active connivance and support.

There has been a very active hidden guerilla war going on against Mondale/Watson: at least 65 senior to top executives in business and government supporting the corruption have been ruined or badly damaged to date: 1 mid-sized country Cabinet Minister ruined; CEO of ALCATEL, ruined and sentenced to jail; CEO of ITT Germany, ruined and sentenced to jail; CEO of Sprint International out and broken; major Arab Bank MD out and broken;… But the personal costs have been crushing to the man, and especially to his third wife, and his 4 children: all long term repeated targets.

This is just a real fast first glance at one of the paired stories, there’re far more details: and there’s still its enormous and appalling paired story, the Democratic – Japanese tragedy.

Its time to take a real close look the immense load of corruption Kerry Edwards are blindly bringing with them.

Caveat Emptor.

Jericho Wall

1 posted on 10/13/2004 10:29:56 AM PDT by jericho wall
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To: jericho wall

We're on the defensive?


2 posted on 10/13/2004 10:31:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: jericho wall

the libs say were on the defensive but who cares what they think!


3 posted on 10/13/2004 10:32:36 AM PDT by erik22lax
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To: erik22lax

No, I say republicans are on the defensive and i am no lib. They have been disgustingly on the defensive for decades. They have enabled the dems to become more radical. I know Freepers are not on the defensive, but mainstream republicans? Give mea break.


4 posted on 10/13/2004 10:38:37 AM PDT by Williams
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To: jericho wall

Sorry but this falls below the threshold of poorly written unsourced accusations. Is there a competently written article on any of these charges? FYI Watson left IBM a while ago. Lou Gestner was CEO throughout the 90s and now there is another guy at the top slot. I see the accusations go to 2001. So Watson was pulling strings afer he retired?

It might be interesting if worked out in a methodical, well documented way. Which CEO went to jail? Why? What did Mondale have to do with it. Etc.


5 posted on 10/13/2004 10:48:38 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Far more pertinent are IBM's, Cisco's and some other tech co's overt support to Kerry / the Rats. It completely refutes the Leftists' notion that "corporate America" is for Bush, that the GOP are the "corporate" party and that Kerry would do ANYTHING about corporate corruption. In truth, as viewed by me, a corporate guy, Bush has put in place the toughest controls in a long, long time, perhaps the toughest since Teddy Roosevelt. Back with Clinton, it was like the Wild West. Now, everyone better behave themselves!


6 posted on 10/13/2004 11:07:18 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: Jack Black

You are dead on. At best, this is only a lead, and at that, it does not have clear allegations against the opposition, only that some of their business allies were corrupt. Nevertheless, more than a few times I have seen slender leads generate major hits on the opposition.


7 posted on 10/13/2004 11:08:18 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Jack Black
>>>Sorry but this falls below the threshold of poorly written unsourced accusations.<<<

I totally agree. I worked for IBM from 1962 to 1974, ITT for four years in the 70's and Hitachi in the 80's. I don't recognize any of these events. I don't even recognize them as valid fairy-tales.

I can't make heads or tails of what he is trying to say. There is a tiny glimmer of fact here and there but there is no coherence to any of these strange allegation's.

Jerico, if you have a point may I suggest a total re-write! You need stress following through on each allegation to a logical conclusion; if that is possible with this set of highly questionable facts.

8 posted on 10/13/2004 11:20:26 AM PDT by HardStarboard
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