Posted on 10/14/2004 3:11:58 PM PDT by Nachum
FORT MYERS, Fla. (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney called himself "a pretty angry father" on Thursday after Sen. John Kerry mentioned their gay daughter during the final presidential debate - comments Kerry said were meant to be positive about families with gay children.
The vice president's wife, Lynne Cheney, called Kerry "not a good man" and his remarks about daughter Mary Cheney "a cheap and tawdry political trick." Meanwhile, Elizabeth Edwards, the wife of vice presidential candidate John Edwards, suggested in a radio interview that Mrs. Cheney might feel "a certain degree of shame" because her daughter is a lesbian.
Mary Cheney, one of two Cheney daughters, is openly gay and an official in the Bush-Cheney campaign. The vice president has spoken at length about his daughter's sexuality and his view of gay relationships, even disagreeing with the president about the need for a constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriages.
Asked Wednesday night by debate moderator Bob Schieffer whether homosexuality is a choice, Kerry said: "We're all God's children, Bob, and I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was. She's being who she was born as. I think if you talk to anybody, it's not a choice."
Kerry issued a statement Thursday after the Cheneys had expressed anger over his remarks: "I love my daughters. They love their daughter. I was trying to say something positive about the way strong families deal with this issue."
Cheney told supporters at a rally Thursday in Fort Myers, "You saw a man who will do and say anything to get elected, and I am not just speaking as a father here, although I am a pretty angry father." He made no other reference to Kerry's remarks about his daughter.
Mrs. Cheney, introducing her husband in a post-debate appearance Wednesday night in Coraopolis, Pa., also avoided a specific reference to her daughter's sexuality when she made clear she thought Kerry had crossed a line into family privacy.
"Now, you know, I did have a chance to assess John Kerry once more and now the only thing I could conclude: This is not a good man," Mrs. Cheney said. "Of course, I am speaking as a mom, and a pretty indignant mom. This is not a good man. What a cheap and tawdry political trick."
In an interview Thursday with ABC Radio, Elizabeth Edwards said of Mrs. Cheney: "She's overreacted to this and treated it as if it's shameful to have this discussion. I think that's a very sad state of affairs. ... I think that it indicates a certain degree of shame with respect to her daughter's sexual preferences. ... It makes me really sad that that's Lynne's response."
Cheney expressed no objection when Edwards brought up Mary Cheney during their debate. Edwards expressed "respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It's a wonderful thing."
Cheney thanked his opponent for the "kind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much."
Bush said in their debate he does not know whether homosexuality is a choice or fate. He and Kerry spoke of their belief that marriage is the union of man and woman, but the president supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage and the Democrat does not. Kerry supports giving gay couples many of the civil rights that come with marriage, while stopping short of conferring that status on same-sex couples.
In an interview in the Oct. 26 issue of the gay magazine The Advocate, Kerry said gay Americans should support his candidacy because he will appoint Supreme Court justices who will fight for equality and a fair interpretation of the equal protection clause and due process. He said he pays a political price for opposing attempts at "gay bashing" in the Senate.
"The difference between me and George Bush will be the difference to gay and lesbian couples and individuals across this country - whether rights are afforded them or whether or not they are discriminated against," Kerry said. He added, "If people take a walk on those things, life's going to be worse."
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Associated Press Writer Joe Mandak in Coraopolis, Pa., contributed to this report.
I expected this from Edwards, but now the wife is piling on. This means that she and her kids are now fair game too.
If Mary Cheney will come forth and state that her sinful lifestyle is one of choice, then this whole thing will backfire on Kerry in the BIGGEST way possible!!!!
Between the Kerry/Edwards families, I would have bet she was the only sane one. Now she's opened her mouth and proved me wrong.
Wow. Now Elizabeth is "piling on."
Someone's going to get hurt.
KERRY: We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as.
What kind of man can within the span of a single sentence
quote scripture, commit heresy, and advertise the sins of
another to the entire planet?
cheney is president of the senate.....
I think the sane one is John Kerry's ex-wife.
I think Kerry proved beyond all doubt that he has not changed from the young man who was willing to cause suffering and even death to promote himself, he is now an older man with the same standards. this man is just plain smarmy. I strongly suspect this was planned ahead of time, it was not blurted out, it was smoothly carefully stated.
Does anyone know what the story is around John Edwards sons death?? Someone said he was killed by his own father, yes, the Dem VP candidate.. And Nooooooooo, I'm not trying to start a rumor, I'm just asking.....
"The difference between me and George Bush will be the difference to gay and lesbian couples and individuals across this country - whether rights are afforded them or whether or not they are discriminated against," Kerry said.
Marriage is not a right, it is a sacrament.
One cannot have an abominable sacrament.
There will never be a homosexual marriage
no matter what nation decrees it so.
It wouldn't have anything to do with a Satanic ritual or pedophelia? Would it?
I don't know. Just asking.
SKERRY
In other words, homo activists should support Kerry because he will help them achieve through judicial activism what they will never be able to achieve through the ballot box.
What do you mean almost. Just because HE professes to be a Catholic doesn't mean he is.
A_R
:)
I didn't know Mary Cheney was running for office.
Pile on? Oh, yes. Pile on indeed. Of course, not the Edwards' children. I would never be that low class and slimey.
But the wife. Oh, yes.
I suppose the fat Mrs. Edwards wouldn't mind being brought up in the debates as an example of the "obesity epidemic in America."
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