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VIET NAM VETS...NO LONGER SILENT
SwiftVets and POWS For The Truth ^ | October 15, 2004 | Unknown

Posted on 10/15/2004 10:30:56 AM PDT by 84rules

Over 30 years ago they put away their medals and their uniforms. They tried to bury their anger and bitterness and moved on with their lives -- and they waited.

Revisionists are trying to change history, claiming the returning Viet Nam veterans didn't suffer all that much when they returned home. All that talk of being labeled animals has been exaggerated over the years.

But the veterans know better. They were there.

On the radio last week, one man related that he had unpacked the uniform that he wore home from Viet Nam all those years ago. It had not seen the light of day for over 30 years.

He showed it to his children and grandchildren and, for the first time, spoke of the day that he returned home from war and was spat on, cursed at, and literally had to run a gauntlet of protesters who threw human waste and rotten fruit on him and his fellow vets.

With the words "baby killers" ringing in his ears he was warned by laughing policemen not to retaliate or he would be arrested. So he ran. The able-bodied helped the wounded as they do on any battlefield because those on crutches or in wheelchairs were not spared the profanity. Abuse, and bags full of feces that were thrown at them by the raging anti-war protesters.

This now middle-aged vet went on to tell his family that he had hid in the bathroom at the airport for over two hours, bewildered and afraid.

He wondered if he had landed in some foreign land where Americans were hated. Finally, he cleaned up the uniform he was still proud to wear as best he could and made his way to his plane, where he suffered more insults from the passengers.

When he got home, he packed up his medals and his dirty uniform, just as it was, and he knew that one day, he would take it out again and he would have his say.

THAT DAY HAS NOW COME.

One POW stated that he had never put a face to the name until he heard the words "Genghis Khan" pronounced only as John Kerry does and suffered his first flashback to the time he was being tormented by Kerry's words in a North Vietnamese prison camp.

They buried their anger and the bitterness --and they waited.

Most of them didn't know who or what would be the signal to make their move, but they knew they would recognize it when it happened.

On July 29, 2004, it happened. John Forbes Kerry came to the podium at the Democratic Convention and uttered three words that made many Viet Nam Vets' skin crawl: "Reporting for Duty!"

At last the time had come for these long-suffering veterans.

The past was staring back at these wrongly disgraced vets from their television sets. The face it bore was that of John Kerry, the man who had shredded their honor without a thought and climbed over the bodies of their fallen friends to launch a political career.

Kerry had stripped them of their dignity the day he sat before Congress in his fatigues and portrayed them as "baby killers" and "murderers".

Kerry did the unspeakable. He had publicly turned on his fellow vets while they were still in harm's way and American prisoners were still in the hands of the enemy.

Kerry accused them all of being out-of-control animals, killing, raping, and pillaging Viet Nam at will. The anti-war movement -- the protesters had their hero and he was a Viet Nam War veteran, an officer, a medal winner, a wounded warrior: John Forbes Kerry.

Many Viet Nam vets buried the memories of their less-than-welcome homecoming, and John Kerry moved off the national scene. The feelings of betrayal had faded, but they were never resolved.

The unprecedented injustice inflicted on the Viet Nam vets has always lain just under the surface, waiting for a chance to be uncovered. The war had stolen their youth and innocence and John Kerry stole their dignity and rightful place of honor in history.

Like an unlanced boil, the anger festered but there was nothing that could ease the pain. These vets didn't ask for "forgiveness" because they had done nothing wrong in serving their country. They never asked to be treated as heroes, just good soldiers.

All they have ever wanted was the respect due all the men and women who have worn the uniform of this country, something still denied them.

Being allowed to march in a few parades wasn't enough. A long over-due memorial was not enough. The Viet Nam Veterans moveable wall only brought back the suffering as they searched for the names of their fallen friends whose memory had been defiled and disgraced by people who considered them rampaging killers instead of men who died with honor for their country.

Now before them stands this man who would be president -- this man who holds his service in Viet Nam up as a badge of honor now that it suits his purposes. This man Kerry brags about his medals and his tiny wounds and demands the respect they were denied, yet he offers no apologies for what he did to them.

"I will be a great leader!" Kerry proclaims, because of his brief and self-proclaimed valiant service while wearing a uniform -- the very same uniform that they wore and were spat upon because of it.

All across America, soiled uniforms and memories of being shamed and humiliated have resurfaced and Vietnam vets demand their rightful place in history.

John Kerry seems bewildered by the reaction of his "fellow vets." He has become defensive and angry because now his service and honor are being questioned. Kerry seems oblivious to the pain he caused three decades ago when he stole all honor and dignity from those same "fellow vets" for personal gain. Now he wants to use them again, for the same reason.

All across America, Viet Nam vets are smiling. At last, perhaps they can bury their demons. These angry vets are demanding that this man who sentenced them to being shunned as criminals, tell the world that he was wrong and that he is sorry for what he did to them.

Kerry must admit that he lied about them.

For many, it would still not be enough satisfaction and hopefully peace will come when Viet Nam vets see and hear John F. Kerry give his concession speech the night of November 2, 2004 with the knowledge that it was their votes that helped defeat him.

There are approximately 2.5 million Viet Nam veterans in America and they have not forgotten.

Kerry denied them their rightful place as heroes and they will deny him his dream of the presidency.

Angry Viet Nam veterans, silent for so long, will finally have their say.

Payment in full will be delivered to John Kerry on November 2, 2004.

Revenge is indeed a dish best served cold.

QUESTION: WILL JOHN KERRY TREAT OUR SERVICE PERSONNEL - (YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, YOUR MOTHERS AND FATHERS, YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS, and FRIENDS)- NOW FIGHTING THE TERRORIST THE SAME WAY HE TREATED THE VIET NAM VETS???

PROBABLY.

(Author unknown)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; betrayal; kerry; pows; protesters; swiftvets; veterans; vietnam; vietnamveterans
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To: 84rules

I saw this and am passing it along.
ABC IS SHAMELESS!
To: EVERYONE!

Please give this email the widest possible dissemination before the election.

ABC IS SHAMELESS!
Move Over, CBS and NBC
by Fred Marshall Jr.
October 15, 2004

ABC delivered, on Prime Time Live on Thursday evening, the most shameless "hit piece" I have seen in any election campaign cycle. A brief but terribly incomplete summary of it is still available on ABC's website at this link:

Wounded Soldiers Come Back to Poverty
http://esampler.tns-global.com/eSampler/writetest.html?AOL,BBCNews

The 14-minute segment I watched is clearly a thinly-veiled ploy to discredit the current administration. The suggestion is that there is much which should be done to improve "the way our wounded soldiers are treated" and the implication is that the "egregious injustice" (that more is not done) is the fault of the current administration.

A casual disclaimer is subtly mentioned early on in the broadcast, admitting that by all accounts the medical treatment received by all is "exceptional" but hastens to charge that the government has not helped its wounded men to recover financially (suggesting that government is responsible to do so).

Before I explain this travesty in reporting, let me lay a brief foundation and then pose a couple of questions for ABC which are "seared in me." I should mention that I am a three-time Vietnam veteran.

Foundation: The conditions described in the segment (1) have existed in all previous wars (at least dating back to 1955 when I first enlisted), and (2) are not significantly unlike many similar situations that occur in civilian life. It would certainly be nice if there were provisions in all health care systems to provide more financial relief to victims than is currently available in any of them, but to suggest these are unprecedented is ludicrous.

Questions for ABC:

(1) Since authorizing and funding medical care for the military are functions of Congress, what has Congress done over, say, the past 20 years to address these concerns?

(2) More specifically, what have Senator John Kerry and the preceeding four presidents done to address these matters?

One would think that, with Kerry's being such a self-declared combat hero who was thrice wounded himself, he would be keenly aware of the plight of combat warriors. So, before we ask what President Bush has done in three and a half years, let's ask what Kerry has done over a span of twenty.

The segment centers around three cases, all supposedly discovered by a visit to Walter Reed Army Medical Center (WRAMC). In general terms at the outset, the narrator suggests that wounded men are forced to "panhandle" in order to raise money so that relatives and loved ones can visit the wounded veterans in the hospital.

I personally know of no health care coverage in the world that provides coverage for the expenses others incur for hospital visits. There are some charities, such as those associated with St. Jude's Children's Hospital in Memphis, which help needy families with such arrangements and expenses, but I am unaware of any hospitalization coverage which does so. Most civilian health care coverage only covers a percentage of the DOCTOR's visits, for crying out loud.

My own 85-year-old mother was in the Cardiac Unit for 19 days in a Memphis hospital recently, and I traveled from Georgia to be with her during that time and for some time after she went home, 80 miles from Memphis. Who will reimburse me for my travel and hotel lodging near the hospital for 19 days? Huh? The loving son of a helpless and stricken elderly woman has been "disenfranchised," wouldn't you say? Give me a break. Those expenses are mine.

Conspicuously absent in the report is any claim that these three men sustained wounds as a result of hostile action, although most viewers can be expected to assume that (1) the wounds occurred, (2) they occurred in Iraq, and (3) therefore they must be combat wounds. In one case, the narrator says the soldier has not received a Purple Heart but concedes that one of the other soldiers has received a Purple Heart. My read of that is that most likely two of the three injuries were non-combat injuries.

One soldier in the segment, Specialist Tyson Johnson, had been wounded sufficiently seriously that he could not remain on active duty, although he appears quite normal in the video footage. Wounded in Iraq during his second enlistment, he had not been able to complete the enlistment term for which he had received, in advance, a reenlistment bonus (the nature and cause of Johnson's wounds are not mentioned by ABC).

The Army Finance Center, therefore, sent him a notification that he must re-imburse the government for the unearned portion of his bonus ($2,717), a concept that has traditionally applied when the enlistment contract is not completed. Johnson has made no payment toward his bill. I believe professional sports heroes have to pay back unearned portions of their signing bonuses if they fail to complete their playing contracts, even though they are most often injured while performing their duties for their employers. But I could be wrong on this point.

ABC's segment stated that Johnson has to live in his car because the Pentagon reported to the credit bureau his failure to repay the government "loan" (technically, a bonus is a loan that doesn't have to be paid back if the conditions are met), thus "ruining" his credit to the extent that he is unable to rent an apartment. That, my friends, doesn't pass the laugh test. Where is his family? What rental agency would turn down a recent veteran of the Iraq war if he had an otherwise good credit rating and reliable employment?

Staff Sergeant Ryan Kelly lost his right leg "in Iraq." How he lost it is not mentioned. He is shown walking with a prosthesis almost normally, far better than most amputees walk. On camera he says, pitifully, that wounded men he has talked to say their families would be better off financially if they had been killed.

Staff Sergeant Peter Damon lost both his arms "in an explosion while repairing a helicopter in Iraq." Damon's monthly disability payments will be "calculated from a fixed set of federal regulations based upon which limbs have been amputated and precisely where."

The applicable statutes are found in Title 38, United States Code, and the regulations at Title 38 Code of Federal Regulations. They are not new. They have been in place for decades. They could have been amended at any time by the Congress. That they haven't been is not the fault of the current administration, or the Pentagon.

According to those regulations (and, incidentally, according to Social Security regulations) an amputee is considered disabled only if he has lost two limbs or one limb and one eye. I know that first hand, as I am an above-the-knee amputee myself and am entitled to no disability from either the VA or Social Security.

Nowhere in the segment is there any mention of President Bush, his administration, or Congress. Instead, ABC News went to the Pentagon and confronted Lieutenant General Franklin Hagenbeck, Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel (DCSPER). While the interview aired left the impression that the General had arranged to cancel Johnson's $2,717 obligation to the government, nothing specific was promised other than "we will take care of our soldiers."

Why didn't ABC go to the leaders in Congress and ask why the statutes and regulations do not provide a mechanism for restoring Reserve and National Guardsmen to the income levels they enjoyed prior to mobilization and deployment? Of course the Pentagon is the place to go to find out why a Purple Heart has not been awarded, but bureaucrats charged with the responsibility of paying and collecting money operate under rules legislated by Congress. The General can't change those rules, so why go to him at all?

And since Kerry and the media have been touting the endorsement of Kerry by a small group of recently-retired generals and admirals, what did they do during their tenures to alleviate these alleged injustices?

The thing that outrages me is the deliberate slant of the piece and its timing. Airing it just two weeks before the election is sure to mislead many viewers into believing that soldiers are suffering more under the Bush administration than at any other time in history. To make matters worse, there was an ABC ad during the commercial breaks promoting an upcoming special in which ABC says it has gone to Vietnam and found Vietnamese witnesses to the events which resulted in Senator Kerry's "winning" the Silver Star. They aim to "clear the air" on this "controversy." So, what do you expect will be the conclusion the special will trumpet?

Now folks, I gotta tell you all. I'm guessing there were probably 5,000 Silver Star Medals awarded during the Vietnam War....perhaps more. With the exception of South Vietnamese soldiers fighting with American troops, I cannot imagine a situation in which South Vietnamese civilians, or Viet Cong, could possibly give an accurate eyewitness account of an American warrior's actions in such an enemy encounter. Perhaps it could be done in a dozen cases, but no more than that. Yet we can bet the ABC special will purport to "justify" Kerry's Silver Star Medal.

We usually see what our own men do in combat, but the totality of his efforts are normally determined by piecing together the observations of several witnesses. No one man stops what he is doing to watch another. They are all fighting for their lives. For any participant, in an exchange of gunfire with the enemy, to identify some one enemy individual, while enemy forces are delivering deadly fire upon him and his comrades, and to be able to identify and describe the totality of the actions of that single enemy combatant, is a bit too much to expect from opposing forces.

It will be interesting to see what ABC has come up with. We know already that the intent will be to validate the story Kerry has told, thereby hoping to discredit all the accounts which have come from the men who served with Kerry and dispute his version(s) of events. And there can be no doubt about the timing of the piece.

If George Bush wins this election, it will have been done against great combined and well-coordinated propaganda efforts by the DNC, the Kerry Campaign, rock stars and Hollywood performers concentrating their concerts in the battleground states, George Soros and his "Shadow Party" support of Move-On.org, the ongoing massive DNC vote-buying and vote-rigging operations in battleground states, and the shameless help of the mainstream media, most notably ABC, CBS, and NBC.

Don't forget, ABC is the network which, on election night 2000, called the State of Florida as having gone for Gore a full hour before the polls had closed in Florida's Panhandle in the Central Time Zone, and called it with less than one-half of one percent of the precincts having reported in. Their intent was to discourage the last-hour voters in the heavily Republican Panhandle from voting at all. Election and media experts have since estimated that the early call most probably cost Bush at least 10,000 votes. Their mission this year is not different from their mission then. They want a Democrat in the White House and they don't care who or how he gets there, so long as he gets there.

If Bush wins this election by just 500 votes, it should be considered a landslide.

If he loses, then we will be in the home stretch of having lost a once-great country.

Personally, I have to believe that sufficient numbers of Republicans and enlightened Democrats will cast more votes for Bush than the Kerry supporters can cast, fabricate, and miscount. This is the most important presidential election of my lifetime, and we'll just have to wait and see whether God will divine that the right thing gets done or He has selected this election as an ingredient or component of the end times.

Copyright October 2004
Fred Marshall Jr.


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Welcome
INDEX PAGE
Vietnam veterans protest Kerry
Kerry a traitor : new film tells some things clearly ....
Dan Rather & Bush National Guard Service
Flash: John Kerry’s Unbelievable Last-Ditch Weapon
Revenge
Kerry, Kerry, quite contrary-DOA
Democrats For Bush
Communist Connection
REJECT JOHN KERRY-RESTORE HONOR
Kerrys Fake Warriors
Time Line For John Kerry
UNITED NATIONS
Kerry Sinking Swift Boat...tells it like it is!
Kerry & MIA/POWS
ZELL MILLER VS KERRY
Kerry Documents/Pic's
Open Letter to Bush by a Veteran
Kerry Lied While Good Men Died Rally Update
Recent Postings
Kerry Admitted 1n 1971, He Wrote The Combat Reports
Families of POWs Frightened By Kerry
Score Card: America/SwiftVets 5 Communist/Kerry 0
Kerry Caught in Bed with China-FBI Files
The John Kerry Committee-Pro Communist thru and thru
Bring It On-Ok We Will
Military Records & The Plot Thickens
Kerry's Real Problem!
'atrocity' charge against comrades remains uncorrected
BACKTRACKS ON FIRST PURPLE HEART AWARD
Swiftees & Rood Evaluation
Kerry's Silver Star
Kerry's Bronze Star Analyzed
The Sampan incident by Pat Buchanan
The Book Kerry Doesn't Want You To Read "The New Soldier"
Kerry's Record
A Matter Of Honor, Swit Boat Vets
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Why Stop John Kerry
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Life-altering moment was a figment of his imagination?
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DNC email asking all to repudiate Swift Boat Vets
Kerry's war record by Robert Novak
My Letter to Senator McCain, Ref SWIFTVET Ad
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Who is Max Cleland?
Rally-We Need Your Help
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Kerry's Lies Documented
Kerry Lied About Being In Cambodia
KERRY'S AWARDS
America-Are you listening
The Kerry Doctrine on War
Kerry is the communist choice-Please Read
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Unfairenheit 9/11
The Campaign of Hate and Fear
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KIA/MIA Families Against Kerry
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EIB Interview: Rush Limbaugh interviews John E. O'Neill
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Kerry's Self-Indictment
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Vietnam Propagandist for President?
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The Biggest Liar of Them All
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Monumental Mistake
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It's Kerry's Anti-War Record They Resent
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Admitted War Criminal Cries Foul
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The Swift Truth
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Kerry's Soggy Tall Tale
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Startling Comparisons
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Brothers Banding Together Against Kerry
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Kerry: Yep, I'm Back to Pro-War
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Kerry Froze in the Cold War
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John Kerry's Real Vietnam Record
Published: 8/10/2004
By: Robert Novak

Vietnam...Today
Published: 8/9/2004
By: Jeff Jacoby

Kerry's Arafat Yes-Man
Published: 8/2/2004
By: David Bedein

Democratic Party "Leper" Endorses Bush
Published: 8/2/2004
By: Jerome Zeifman

Teresa's Odd Speech
Published: 7/30/2004
By: Thomas Lifson

John Kerry's Stalinist Campaign Slogan
Published: 7/29/2004
By: Barbara Kay

Teresa Heinz Kerry Becomes a Campaign Issue
Published: 7/29/2004
By: Dick Morris

John Edwards: A Workingman's Nightmare
Published: 7/28/2004
By: Lowell Ponte

Teresa Heinz Kerry's 1975 Anti-Kennedy Screed
Published: 7/27/2004
By: David Guarino

Kerry, Catholics and Capital Punishment
Published: 7/23/2004
By: Michael P. Tremoglie

The Democrats' Clinton - Kennedy Divide
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"Stronger at Home, Respected in the World"?
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Kerry's (Latest) Position on the War on Terror
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Over His Head
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John Kerry's Winning Formula: Invisibility
Published: 6/28/2004
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Kerry's Religious Adviser Wanted "Under God" Taken Out of Pledge of Allegiance
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Teresa Heinz Kerry Lies About "un-American" Comment, Tells Reporter, "Shove It."
Published: 7/27/2004
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Communist Goals - Take Back America
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2 posted on 10/15/2004 10:34:43 AM PDT by 2ThumbsUp
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3 posted on 10/15/2004 10:37:45 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: 84rules
Payment in full will be delivered to John Kerry on November 2, 2004.

I sure hope this is right.

4 posted on 10/15/2004 10:39:20 AM PDT by stevem
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To: 84rules
Kerry embellished his After Action Reports to get medals that he didn’t deserve. He fabricated accusations when he came back from Vietnam when he spoke before the Senate Intelligence Committee when he said that his fellow Vietnam Veterans committed atrocities. He has never provided any proof that his accusations were true, and in fact now admits that his accusations were “over the top”. Over the top? They were untrue! And his falsifications harmed POW’s, their families, and Vietnam Veterans in general.

POW’s who were in North Vietnam prison camps when Kerry was telling his fabricated stories to the Senate and the American public to bolster his political ambitions were tortured and threatened to be placed on trial as “War Criminals”. POW’s were told by their captors “You will never go home” because of Kerry’s fabrications. Kerry’s untrue accusations are unforgivable.

General Vo Nguyen Gaip , the Commanding officer of the North Vietnamese Military and Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975 both claim that North Vietnam was poised to negotiate a surrender because of the Communist’s military failures during the 1968 Tet Offensive and thereafter. But because of the Anti-War movement in America (led by Jane Fonda and John Kerry) they felt that the Demonstrations “gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."

America was kicking the Communist’s butt in every battle. General Westmoreland had the Communist’s number and was winning the war. America’s pullout of Vietnam was due to Kerry and his group of Demonstrators. Kerry’s ant-war activities played a very significant part in causing America to lose the war in Vietnam.

Because of John Kerry and others like him there are more names on the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D. C. than there otherwise would have been. There was also the slaughter of 3.5 million South Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians when America pulled out that is significantly attributable to John Kerry and his now admittedly “over the top” accusations. John Kerry has blood dripping from his untrue accusations.

When I returned home to Los Angeles from Vietnam in 1971 my head was spinning as I walked through the Terminal at LAX, thinking about the culture of war that I had just left while looking around at the opulence in America. When I stepped outside onto the sidewalk a group of “Longhairs” walked by and one of them spat on me while the others called me a “Baby Killer”. I feel that the treatment that I received, and have lived with for the past 33 years, was due to John Kerry and his lies.

John Kerry does not have the moral integrity, honesty, or judgment to be the Commander-In-Chief of the world’s most powerful military. John Kerry IS, unfit for command.

Viet-Boat-Rider

Vietnam Veteran

Mekong Delta 1970-1971

5 posted on 10/15/2004 10:40:07 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump to the top


6 posted on 10/15/2004 10:41:15 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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To: stevem; 84rules

I am calling it now for Bush with over 320 electoral votes.


7 posted on 10/15/2004 10:41:48 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Vet Nam Vets ~ the truth will set you free ~ Bump!


8 posted on 10/15/2004 10:42:55 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: 84rules

As a 64 year old Army veteran, I can guarantee you that there were no veterans among these gutless creeps who did this to our Vietnam veterans.


9 posted on 10/15/2004 10:43:14 AM PDT by Imabeliever (One need not be demon possessed to convert to Islam, but soon will be.)
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To: 2ThumbsUp
Winter Soldiers.Com

Ahem. That would be WinterSoldier.com.

10 posted on 10/15/2004 10:43:23 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: 84rules

FLUSH THE JOHNS!


11 posted on 10/15/2004 10:44:07 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

12 posted on 10/15/2004 10:44:15 AM PDT by SheLion (PLEASE vote! We can't afford to be silent!!!! Do we really want FnKerry to run our Country?!)
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To: Jeff Head
Kerry’s OUTRAGEOUS slander / Backstabber deserves to be SPIT on!

Have you ever watched one of the beheading videos? I have seen two of them and I don’t care to see another. I am a Vietnam combat Veteran and I’m a little hardened to sights like that, but those beheadings are most likely the most hideous, deplorable, in-humane, and gruesome actions that I have ever seen.

The people conducting and condoning the beheadings are below animals. They are the scum of the earth that deserve to die a torturous death. Their souls have eroded into a burnt remnant of a human being. Hanging in the town square is too good for them.

WAIT A MINUTE! I am one of those sub-humans! At least according to John Kerry. John Kerry is so sure that I am the same as those barbarians that are beheading people in Iraq that he went before the Senate of these United States and testified that I and my fellow Veterans were “cutting off ears, cutting off heads, and taping wires to genitals and turning up the power.”

I wonder if my wife and four children know that their husband and father is a scum of the earth that deserve to die a torturous death? That my soul has eroded into a burnt remnant of a human being. And that hanging in the town square is too good for me?

My eleven-year-old daughter, Victoria, might see John Kerry’s testimony before the Senate and discover what kind of monster her father is! After all, isn’t John Kerry a United States Senator! A person would not be elected to represent Americans if he were a liar and traitor, now would he. So what he said about me must be true!

For me to have to explain to Victoria that John Kerry is a liar and a traitor, and that I am not a hideous murderer as the Senator claims, is my reward for answering the call of duty for my country.

For me to have to explain to Victoria that the people of Massachusetts don’t care about America or the truth, and that they have a twisted view of America that is not the right way to be, is also my reward for answering my country’s call.

Enduring John Kerry’s lies and trying to raise my family to respect America isn’t easy when the main stream media covers for him.

John Kerry’s outrageous slander of Vietnam Veterans, and the manner in which he stabbed his shipmates in the back with his lies for his own personal ambitions, demonstrates what a despicable person that he is.

It is John Kerry that is the scum of the earth that deserve to die a torturous death. It is John Kerry’s soul that has eroded into a burnt remnant of a human being. Hanging in the town square is too good for HIM!

Upon my return to Los Angeles from Vietnam I was spat on and called a “Baby Killer” by a group of longhairs outside the terminal at LAX. I find myself decades later having to explain to my daughter that I am not a person who beheads people like those inhuman animals in Iraq as John Kerry claims. This is the impact that Kerry’s lies have had on my life, and the lives of many Vietnam Veterans.

In my humble opinion, anyone that would cast a vote for John Kerry might as well move to Massachusetts and live with the other people who don’t care about America or the truth, and that have a twisted view of America that is not the right way to be. Viet-Boat-Rider

13 posted on 10/15/2004 10:44:50 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
In my humble opinion, anyone that would cast a vote for John Kerry might as well move to Massachusetts and live with the other people who don’t care about America or the truth, and that have a twisted view of America that is not the right way to be. Viet-Boat-Rider

I said this before: the evil want the evil to lead. And we all know that we have a LOT of evil in America today!

God Bless Our Vets!

14 posted on 10/15/2004 10:47:11 AM PDT by SheLion (PLEASE vote! We can't afford to be silent!!!! Do we really want FnKerry to run our Country?!)
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To: 84rules
The original poster has asked that it be spread far and wide.

Done!

God Bless the Vietnam Vets ... Welcome Home

15 posted on 10/15/2004 10:47:42 AM PDT by Mo1 (The President's job is not to pass a global test, but to protect the American people.)
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To: 84rules

BTTT


16 posted on 10/15/2004 10:52:17 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (John Kerry: a WJD--Weapon of Job Destruction. Vote Bush/Cheney 2004!!!)
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To: 84rules


E-mailing to friends and particularly to foes.


17 posted on 10/15/2004 11:01:00 AM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!


18 posted on 10/15/2004 11:02:01 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: 2ThumbsUp; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub

Fabulous work.
GREAT posts both.


19 posted on 10/15/2004 11:02:07 AM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
I have hated the Son of a B$tch for 33 years, Pay back is a mother. By the way I spent 27 months in VN, 1965 through 68, with a short stay in the states in between, Army.
20 posted on 10/15/2004 11:02:38 AM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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To: 84rules

bttt


21 posted on 10/15/2004 11:03:14 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: 84rules; All
Please...ALL of you vote for President Bush and Vice President Cheney on November 2nd. Please find some way to volunteer or pray to ensure victory on election day.

By doing this will result in the best WELCOME HOME any of us ever had.

22 posted on 10/15/2004 11:08:28 AM PDT by afnamvet (Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom!)
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To: 84rules

Question to anyone who can provide an historical perspective (since I was only a toddler at the time), did any other group besides John Kerry's Vietnam Veterans Against the War do similar damage - was anyone else as prominent in the anti-war movement? Was he the big dog or just the one who sought out the cameras the most?

Because if he was, then he is certainly and personally and MOST, over all others, directly responsible for the treatment these men received. And how anyone can vote for him knowing that is beyond me.


23 posted on 10/15/2004 11:09:32 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

Your posts are VERY compelling and well-written.


24 posted on 10/15/2004 11:12:59 AM PDT by agrace
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To: 84rules

Tears in my eyes...God bless you all. Vietnam Vets, as well as every Vet still living, and all their relatives. We are, and have always been, proud of you. Ashamed and angry at all those 'Americans' who hurt you.
We love you all.


25 posted on 10/15/2004 11:13:25 AM PDT by meema
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Jeff Head; blackie

BTTT with the utmost of respect for each of you.


26 posted on 10/15/2004 11:21:40 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (If you live in B-I-G glass houses, don't throw stones)
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To: Little Bill
I have hated the Son of a B$tch for 33 years, Pay back is a mother. By the way I spent 27 months in VN, 1965 through 68, with a short stay in the states in between, Army.

I can't say I have any good feelings for the scum sucking dirt bag either. Msgt, USAF, ret, Bien Hoa Air Base, RVN, 14 July 70 to 10 July 71.

27 posted on 10/15/2004 11:21:41 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: 2ThumbsUp
Don't forget, ABC is the network which, on election night 2000, called the State of Florida as having gone for Gore a full hour before the polls had closed in Florida's Panhandle in the Central Time Zone, and called it with less than one-half of one percent of the precincts having reported in. Their intent was to discourage the last-hour voters in the heavily Republican Panhandle from voting at all. Election and media experts have since estimated that the early call most probably cost Bush at least 10,000 votes.

You are not exaggerating. Last month, I spoke with numerous panhandle residents in Destin, Ft. Walton Beach, and Pensacola.

The panhandle is heavily Republican, and on Central Time. Many people told me that folks waiting in long lines at polls (schools, municipal buildings, etc) gave up and went back to the parking lots when they heard on the radio that Florida had been called by the Networks for Gore that early.

28 posted on 10/15/2004 11:22:51 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 10/15/2004 11:26:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 84rules
John Kerry seems bewildered by the reaction of his "fellow vets." He has become defensive and angry because now his service and honor are being questioned. Kerry seems oblivious to the pain he caused Three decades ago when he stole all honor and dignity from those same "fellow vets" for personal gain. Now he wants to use them again, for the same reason.

Kerry must now finally be held accountable. The day of reckoning has come at last. We must all do whatever we can to see that justice is finally served!


30 posted on 10/15/2004 11:31:22 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: 2ThumbsUp

Excellent post - thank you!


31 posted on 10/15/2004 11:36:58 AM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (God Bless America!)
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To: Mark17
I could have put my daughter through a State Community College with my donations to Kerry opponents, rat, Pubbie, Libertarian. I despise the man, my war hero Senetor, puke.
32 posted on 10/15/2004 11:53:33 AM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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To: All

33 posted on 10/15/2004 12:25:38 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I approved this message... 'tooning the truth!)
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To: 84rules


34 posted on 10/15/2004 12:39:46 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Great article, thanks for the ping. I have e-mailed it to people already.


35 posted on 10/15/2004 1:23:48 PM PDT by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Falsum etiam est verum quod constituit superior.)
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To: 84rules; All

Thank you all for the replies and pings. I have some more information. The original article was written by Barbara Stock and can be accessed on-line at:

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/stock/040831

The title of the article is "Revenge Is A Dish Best Served Cold."


36 posted on 10/15/2004 4:38:12 PM PDT by 84rules
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To: 2ThumbsUp
Thank you and GOD BLESS.

"Hell hath no fury like a Viet Vet scorned"!
37 posted on 10/15/2004 4:50:53 PM PDT by N. Beaujon
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; 84rules; All
Awesome post! Mass e-mailing done.

Thanks for the ping, Tonk!

My thanks to our Vietnam Vets, and to ALL our Vets, for their service to our country.


38 posted on 10/15/2004 5:17:33 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider; All

Thanks for your service to our country.

Victoria has a father to be proud of, and I'm sure she knows it.

If your experiences in Vietnam are too personal to talk about, please feel free to share the story of my friend Billy with your daughter. He lost his life giving food to a begging Vietnamese child. He was lured onto a landmine.

I will never forget, as a 13 year old, crying at his casket, and promising to myself that I would never forget the buddy of my older brother. The sweet, honorable man who gave his life for our country.

And I haven't.

He, like you, are heros in my eyes.

I have kept this tagline for months, and will continue to do so until the traitor Kerry is defeated on November 2.

Stand proud, my friend.


39 posted on 10/15/2004 5:23:03 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: 84rules

Bump


40 posted on 10/15/2004 5:23:37 PM PDT by sport
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To: 84rules

As a Vietnam Era Vet, I thank the Swift Vets for their service to our country "then" & "now".


41 posted on 10/15/2004 5:29:55 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

On of the local tv channels here reported that a survey of the military and their families done by Annenburg(sp?) showed 69% support President Bush.


42 posted on 10/15/2004 7:41:41 PM PDT by Susannah (What's less united than the USA during war? > the UN !)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Keep it comin'!!

Semper Fi


BTTT


43 posted on 10/15/2004 7:49:19 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Jibba-Jabba: words to live by.)
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To: 2ThumbsUp
My letter to Nightline

As a Viet Nam veteran I resent the one-side hit piece presented as news on Nightline October 14, 2004. It was at best a poorly-researched story, and at the least a poor attempt to rewrite history to somehow benefit John Kerry, an acknowledged perpetrator of war crimes. Do you really expect us to believe that these "witnesses" were just waiting for 30 years to tell their story?

Mr. Koppel's rudeness to John O'Neil and absolute refusal to acknowledge that ABC and Nightline purposely refused to introduce relevant material from a number of credible sources was duly noted. That Nightline refused to quote John Kerry himself proves that this was little more than a puff piece to somehow curry favor for John Kerry.

The most obvious thing to this old vet is that the ABC memo got delivered to Mr. Koppel to go easy on John Kerry, even if it means hiding the truth. Be sure of this, the truth will find you out. Your prestige continues to decline as you attempt to engineer the outcome of this election. You will fail. You do not realize how upset the 2 million plus Viet Nam veterans are. You really don't. We've been kept silent for 30 years, but we've been freed to stand proud.

The election will come and go, but your underhandedness will be remembered long after November 2, when George W. Bush is re-elected, thanks in no small part to the repeated media attempts (especially CBS and ABC) to effect the outcome.

Sincerely,

44 posted on 10/15/2004 8:42:32 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (Kerry - In your guts you know he's nuts!!)
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To: 84rules

For us, it's personal.

VietVet


45 posted on 10/15/2004 10:06:59 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: VietVet

I am praying with all my might that Americans do not let you down a second time.


46 posted on 10/15/2004 10:08:25 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

Great letter! Thanks for your service to our country.


47 posted on 10/15/2004 10:15:34 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: 84rules

bump and Thank You Viet Nam Vets!


48 posted on 10/20/2004 2:24:50 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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