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Will the silence of most Bishops help elect a Pres. candidate who promotes procured abortion...
RenewAmerica.us ^ | October 15, 2004 | Barbara Kralis

Posted on 10/17/2004 1:18:14 AM PDT by cpforlife.org

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1 posted on 10/17/2004 1:18:15 AM PDT by cpforlife.org
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“The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bad bishops.”
--St. John Chrysostom
Bishop, Doctor of the Church, born at Antioch, c. 347

2 posted on 10/17/2004 1:20:19 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (Birth is one day in the life of a person who is already nine months old.)
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Don't know... if the "Catholics" should sticked to their ideology, then they wouldn't vote for the Abortionist.


3 posted on 10/17/2004 1:21:46 AM PDT by Kurt_D
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4 posted on 10/17/2004 1:22:05 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (Birth is one day in the life of a person who is already nine months old.)
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5 posted on 10/17/2004 1:25:43 AM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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Excellent!

Those Cow Burger Boys are great!


6 posted on 10/17/2004 1:30:11 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (Birth is one day in the life of a person who is already nine months old.)
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Just yesterday, my sibling and I were discussing this issue. We came to the obvious conclusion that Kerry has excommunicated himself. It only confuses the laity when bishops don't call him on this and brings further scandal to the church.


7 posted on 10/17/2004 4:22:44 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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Kerry's own priest is profaning the sacrament by giving him communion. That is even worse than what kerry is doing. But the fact is that no American bishop is going to do anything about either of them, not without considerable pressure from ordinary Catholics. That's what it took to force the church to even look at the problem of homosexual priests raping children. If it hadn't been for that outcry from the laiety, the priests and their bishops would have been content to look the other way forever. I would bet that this excommunication talk is the least of john kerry's worries.
8 posted on 10/17/2004 4:42:57 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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Agreed.

Furthermore, good Catholics are not supposed to receive communion if they are not in the state of grace. For instance, if one does not go to confession and knows there is sin that must be confessed, one should not receive communion. We are called upon to monitor ourselves in this regard. This is supposed to be a common practice. Yet we do not hear anyone in authority, calling upon Kerry to utilize it even for the reason that he is a divorced Catholic (also a reason for excommunication). disgraceful.

9 posted on 10/17/2004 4:57:57 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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LOL!!!!! Very cute.


10 posted on 10/17/2004 5:00:26 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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One approach might be to "boycott" both confession and communion until kerry publicly demonstrates repentence by denouncing those abominations that he has previously supported with his vote and his endorsements.

Ask yourself this: If you knew that your own parish priest was engaging in the profanation of the eucharist, would you want him to give you communion?

11 posted on 10/17/2004 5:06:14 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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Interesting proposal to address the problem.


12 posted on 10/17/2004 5:18:54 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

Saw an article here yesterday that Kerry had effectively
'excommunicated himself' by his support of the 'heresy': abortion. Noone would contradict his pro-abortion stances so I can NOT understand why the hierarchy can not state it.


13 posted on 10/17/2004 5:19:17 AM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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You have to admit it's direct. If a priest is not taking confession and giving communion, then the church must ask, "Why is he there?" It must also ask, "Why are the parishioners there?" That quickly leads to other questions of the sort that bishops dread.


14 posted on 10/17/2004 5:22:28 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: cpforlife.org

It will get worse before better... The church has an obligation to support good values.

John Kerry will create laws that support abortion at any stage, embryonic creation and destrution for science, creation of life from cloning, Homosexual marriage... What exactly does the bible say about these things:

"You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being."

When the church has failed to uphold the laws of God, who then, will?


15 posted on 10/17/2004 5:59:20 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Masterdebaters Lesbian thoughts dash Presidential hopes.)
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It truly is up to us.


16 posted on 10/17/2004 6:28:31 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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Is the problem here that the Catholics are afraid of angering their long-term traditional Democrat base even when the Democrat ticket takes issue positions far at odds with Catholic teachings? Or is it that the Catholics do not like to see political issues divide their congregation and want to steer clear of "divisive" politics?


17 posted on 10/17/2004 7:02:25 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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Sad to say, I think some Mormons are voting for Kerry, too - but not many. (One's too many.) It defies all logic.


18 posted on 10/17/2004 7:04:55 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (,)
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20 posted on 10/17/2004 10:34:33 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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